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 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 9:19 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

This one reminds me of....

And The Edge. And Executive Decision. And U.S. Marshals.

Again, all really good. But not masterpieces.


True, not great Goldsmith. By the 90's he got pretty simplistic with his writing and rather repetitive. But he could still write a killer main theme that is the thrust of the score. I think this is one of his better scores of this period.


It beats any action score of the last say, 10-12 years, Goldsmith in his sleep out composed our top talents now working as hard as they can.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 9:30 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This one reminds me of....

And The Edge. And Executive Decision. And U.S. Marshals.

Again, all really good. But not masterpieces.


True, not great Goldsmith. By the 90's he got pretty simplistic with his writing and rather repetitive. But he could still write a killer main theme that is the thrust of the score. I think this is one of his better scores of this period.


It beats any action score of the last say, 10-12 years, Goldsmith in his sleep out composed our top talents now working as hard as they can.


That goes without saying. wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 10:08 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Be strong Greg, be strong.
Think of the family!

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Re: K.V. Lectures

It took two composers to write a 30 second cue?

Jerry: I'll do the first 20 seconds.
Joel: Ok Jer.


I'm only purchasing this for the McNeely stuff.


That's just sad.frown

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 11:48 PM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

Re: K.V. Lectures

It took two composers to write a 30 second cue?

Jerry: I'll do the first 20 seconds.
Joel: Ok Jer.


Not sure if those credits of saying they are by JG and JM are strictly accurate. I would say the extra cues are by JM but include JG’s themes. I do remember an interview where JM says JG conducted all the music. So perhaps he tweaked them at times but good chance they are what JM wrote. But the 30 second agent Gibbs cue is JM.

Great to finally see this released. Well done Varese! All I need now is U.S. Marshals!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 11:53 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

You might want to listen to the episodes of the podcast The Goldsmith Odyssey where Yavar interviews Robert Townson. They spend some time talking about AFO and Townson shares specifics about the Goldsmith-McNeely collaboration for certain cues.

Wow, thanks for the heads up: https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/1301242-odyssey-interviews-robert-townson-part-1

The story is even more crazy than I thought. 2 weeks for music and the "Hijacking" cue being written the night before the last recording session.

I do love this music and don't find it that simplistic, and given the fact it was written in such a short timeframe it's even more impressive.

This podcast reminds me though... we still need MULAN COMPLETE!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


It beats any action score of the last say, 10-12 years, Goldsmith in his sleep out composed our top talents now working as hard as they can.

That goes without saying. wink



It should have.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 1:45 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)


It beats any action score of the last say, 10-12 years, Goldsmith in his sleep out composed our top talents now working as hard as they can.


That goes without saying. wink



It should have.

I have never heard this score in my entire life save for the opening main theme and i have not even heard that in complete form - but even I know that this is one of those score you need to have in your collection smile wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 2:36 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Man I cant wait for this to ship.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 3:00 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Maybe President Trump's team will be able to use a previously unreleased cue at his rallies. smile

A welcome release for sure. Ordered.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Maybe President Trump's team will be able to use a previously unreleased cue at his rallies. smile

A welcome release for sure. Ordered.


Or when he tries to get on AF1 with an open umbrella.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

He might not make it to release date, actually!

Wishful thinking, I know!

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Suppose he tweets about it?

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Listening to the excerpts on CSR's "The Archive" now. cue listeners shouting "WE MIGHT NOT BE HERE IN 5 MINUTES!"and "GET OFF MY PLANE! And play-acting the movie and rewriting it to rescue the press secretary

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Maybe President Trump's team will be able to use a previously unreleased cue at his rallies. smile

A welcome release for sure. Ordered.


I wasn't going to go there but the cover (Ford) sort of looks like a young Trump, and he's even orange!

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I’m gonna play the hell out of this.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

This one reminds me of....

And The Edge. And Executive Decision. And U.S. Marshals.

Again, all really good. But not masterpieces.


Even not-top-tier Goldsmith I still better than some composers' greatest...

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Marcato, it's got a great strong memorable theme, and "The Hijacking" is widely considered one of his best action cues ever (which is especially remarkable considering he wrote it the night before recording it!).

Check out samples.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Air Force One is a terribly silly jingoistic-fantasy that perhaps only a Russian or Chinese production could equal in propagandistic chutzpah, but it's the combined skills of the director, editor, cinematographer, composer and cast which testifies to why Hollywood action films—even those as risible as this one—have always been enthusiastically received by international audiences.

Technically, they're quite often beyond approach—at least compared to the foreign competition. And nothing demonstrates this technical superiority more than Goldsmith's enthusiastic, balls to the wall—and practically last minute—corker of an action score, which simultaneously celebrates and calls attention to all the silliness with such dramatically satisfying verve and vigour.

Ducking and dodging escalating dialogue and sfx, Goldsmith's nearly 8 min. The Hijacking is perhaps one of the composer's most skillfully structured and riveting musical accompaniments to an extended action sequence while also playing like gangbusters when played as a stand alone listen.

No working composer today is capable of composing such a propulsive action track of this duration, coherence and with this degree of melodic and rhythmic invention. They simply lack the chops.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

Tied with Howard the Duck as release of the year.

I like how the album cues are marked so that one can peruse just how much music was missing for two decades. But are the album cues rerecordings? Alternate takes? For three weeks recording time, that's quite a bit of back breaking.


PS: What, no "Radek's Release (Without Choir)"? I'M JUST PLAYING JUST PLAYING JUST PLAYING JK JK JK... Jedi Knight...

  • Maybe President Trump's team will be able to use a previously unreleased cue at his rallies.

    Jerry rolled in his grave that day. And so did I in mine.

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