I suppose the answer is producer's discretion, but I wonder why "The Decision" and "Second Flashback" are fused together here, if "Second Flashback" was indeed intended for the scene where Shaw watches the troops play with their new rifles. The scenes aren't juxtaposed in the film, either sequentially or dramatically.
I suppose the answer is producer's discretion, but I wonder why "The Decision" and "Second Flashback" are fused together here, if "Second Flashback" was indeed intended for the scene where Shaw watches the troops play with their new rifles. The scenes aren't juxtaposed in the film, either sequentially or dramatically.
"The Decision" is R3P2 which was to be followed by R4P1 ("Second Flashback"). "Second Flashback" is only twenty seconds and we didn't want that by itself.
WHOA…. Where did that action track come from? Don’t even remember Battle for Grimballs Landing… was that a deleted scene? Outstanding!
Prokofiev, Battle on the Ice, from the film Alexander Nevsky, that's where.
Oh, that's not what you mean.
Blah blah Horner uses classical themes and motifs. We all know this joke is getting old. Whatever Horner does is magic regardless if he draws on the inspiration of other classical works.
I suppose the answer is producer's discretion, but I wonder why "The Decision" and "Second Flashback" are fused together here, if "Second Flashback" was indeed intended for the scene where Shaw watches the troops play with their new rifles. The scenes aren't juxtaposed in the film, either sequentially or dramatically.
"The Decision" is R3P2 which was to be followed by R4P1 ("Second Flashback"). "Second Flashback" is only twenty seconds and we didn't want that by itself.
Would anyone else have preferred the source cues to go on disc 2? Leaving the complete score as it's own listen? A minor issue, and something that uploaders don't need to worry about, but it comes up often enough for me, getting snapped out of the mood by the sudden arrival of a marching band.
There is about seven seconds of silence between the end of the "Closing Credits" and the start of the source music. That should be plenty of time for you to reach for the remote control.
WHOA…. Where did that action track come from? Don’t even remember Battle for Grimballs Landing… was that a deleted scene? Outstanding!
Prokofiev, Battle on the Ice, from the film Alexander Nevsky, that's where.
Oh, that's not what you mean.
Blah blah Horner uses classical themes and motifs. We all know this joke is getting old. Whatever Horner does is magic regardless if he draws on the inspiration of other classical works.
Yeah, that shtick is as tired as it gets. Unless you're going to do it for every composer who references a previous work, get off it.
It looks such a gorgeous release, the artwork etc... I'd like to think James Horner would be so gratified to see his scores released with such TLC. I've been waiting for a remastered/ expanded Glory for so many years (and come under some criticism here by some who thought it unnecessary), my sincerest thanks and appreciation to all involved.
I'm really looking forward to receiving it in a few weeks.
I suppose the answer is producer's discretion, but I wonder why "The Decision" and "Second Flashback" are fused together here, if "Second Flashback" was indeed intended for the scene where Shaw watches the troops play with their new rifles. The scenes aren't juxtaposed in the film, either sequentially or dramatically.
"The Decision" is R3P2 which was to be followed by R4P1 ("Second Flashback"). "Second Flashback" is only twenty seconds and we didn't want that by itself.
I can confirm that the fusion between "The Decision" and "Second Flashback" is not disturbing to listen to.
Would anyone else have preferred the source cues to go on disc 2? Leaving the complete score as it's own listen? A minor issue, and something that uploaders don't need to worry about, but it comes up often enough for me, getting snapped out of the mood by the sudden arrival of a marching band.
There is about seven seconds of silence between the end of the "Closing Credits" and the start of the source music. That should be plenty of time for you to reach for the remote control.
The first source music is the Shubert piece which makes the transition easier.
Neil, How have you dealt with the scene where it starts - in the film - with a march (Hoist The Flag maybe?) and Horner sweeps in with a refrain of it before melding into his own material. Does that play both ways on the CD (melded and separate) or not? Thanks.
Neil, How have you dealt with the scene where it starts - in the film - with a march (Hoist The Flag maybe?) and Horner sweeps in with a refrain of it before melding into his own material. Does that play both ways on the CD (melded and separate) or not? Thanks.
The question is asked to Neil but I take the liberty to answer. Neil will give more details if he wants.
Part of the answer is in my article but hidden in the spoiler part. These are two pieces recorded separately and which join in the film thanks to the magic of the mixing. So they are presented separately in this edition. And I think that's very smart.
Would anyone else have preferred the source cues to go on disc 2? Leaving the complete score as it's own listen? A minor issue, and something that uploaders don't need to worry about, but it comes up often enough for me, getting snapped out of the mood by the sudden arrival of a marching band.
There is about seven seconds of silence between the end of the "Closing Credits" and the start of the source music. That should be plenty of time for you to reach for the remote control.
Hehe, plenty of time I'm sure, and if I've drifted off into some distracted reverie well it serves me right for not paying more attention.
"These are two pieces recorded separately and which join in the film thanks to the magic of the mixing. So they are presented separately in this edition. And I think that's very smart" ------------------- Thanks for your reply jb. I can live with that, but I wonder, with the available space, why the melded film version hasn't been included as well? Just curious, as that's the way most people will remember how it plays, from the film.
"These are two pieces recorded separately and which join in the film thanks to the magic of the mixing. So they are presented separately in this edition. And I think that's very smart" ------------------- Thanks for your reply jb. I can live with that, but I wonder, with the available space, why the melded film version hasn't been included as well? Just curious, as that's the way most people will remember how it plays, from the film.
My hypothesis is that the fusion of the two tracks was done during the dub of the movie. So the track with the two fused parts doesn't exist. But only Neil will have a precise answer to this question.
It's a different technique than the one used in "The Year of Jubilee" where the fusion is written in the score. In a rare interview that will be in the book, James Horner explains that for "The Year of Jubilee" the variations in the pitch of the percussionists to make room for the choirs and violins are written in the score.
