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 Posted:   Dec 8, 2021 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

It woulldn't play on Apple music. but VLC plays just fine

Oh, good! Glad it worked for you. My VLC wasn't any happier with the downloaded m3u than was Itunes. I'll try again.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2021 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Ah, just ordered (didn't fancy any of the Quartet releases, so I thought I might as well sign up for this). So I am buying a release this year, the p&p to the UK was almost as much as the discs, but that's how it is these days, & seeing as how I'm hardly buying any releases now, it doesn't matter too much. Thank you Intrada for not only rereleasing a title I missed out on, but significantly improving it.

Ulzana's Raid was the last Intrada release I bought.

 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2021 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I'm really on the fence about this one. I have the original album, the Varese CD edition, and the initial 2-CD set from Intrada. It's a Goldsmith score I really enjoy, but I honestly find the album recording the only version I tend to play. The Morton Stevens cues are great, but I can't recall much I returned for other than that giant 10-minute sequence he scored. Hmmm...

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

I'm impressed! My copy just arrived. that was very fast!
It took only 4 days between ordering and delivery.
Thanks Intrada!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

The refreshed re-recorded album sounds splendid. Brass seems a bit smoother and there's a slightly richer sheen throughout.

Question:
Disc 1 is 75:33
Disc 2 is 73:56
But Disc 3 (34:58) and Disc 4 (37:33) combined add up to less (72:31) than either Disc 1 or Disc 2.
So why weren't Discs 3 and 4 combined for a 3CD set instead of 4?
Just wondering. The price is very reasonable either way.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 9:31 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

This was an expanded release that I just couldn't resist. I am enjoying it very much. As we all know it came from Intrada's connection with Universal. There is another Universal TV " mini" -series that I would hope Intrada would do ,if not another label with a Universal connection , and that is John Addison's magnificent score to James Michener's CENTENNIAL.


 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 11:18 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

The Baron of Wrathbone is right.

Rich Man, Poor Man by Alex North deserves this kind of release.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2021 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)


So why weren't Discs 3 and 4 combined for a 3CD set instead of 4?
Just wondering. The price is very reasonable either way.


I speak from ignorance, but perhaps licensing reasons? Disc 4 is an entirely different recording, after all, and I note that it appears to have its own chunk of legalese on the back cover. But whether it was that or just aesthetics, the price is indeed very reasonable -- only $5 more than the old 2-CD version, I believe!

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2021 - 12:23 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Basil Wrathbone: So why weren't Discs 3 and 4 combined for a 3CD set instead of 4?J Just wondering. The price is very reasonable either way.

I'd propose that the final disc, I'm presuming the London album, is chock full of the type of music (lots of legato string phrasing, sustained notes) that is sensitive to wow-and-flutter issues on all lower-tier disc players, and that isolating it on its own disc reduces that phenomenon, which would be more pronounced on the outer, later portion of the disc.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2021 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


I speak from ignorance, but perhaps licensing reasons? Disc 4 is an entirely different recording, after all, and I note that it appears to have its own chunk of legalese on the back cover. But whether it was that or just aesthetics, the price is indeed very reasonable -- only $5 more than the old 2-CD version, I believe!


I've seen this reason mentioned in previous releases as well, so it probably is. It's not a big deal here as the end user given 3 and 4 discs come in the same case....compare it to The Black Stallion where they could have put the whole thing on 2 CDs but it's on 3 and causes the case size to double (which for me is more than double)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2021 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


I'd propose that the final disc, I'm presuming the London album, is chock full of the type of music (lots of legato string phrasing, sustained notes) that is sensitive to wow-and-flutter issues on all lower-tier disc players, and that isolating it on its own disc reduces that phenomenon, which would be more pronounced on the outer, later portion of the disc.


You really enjoy talking out of your ass, don't you?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2021 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

...which would be more pronounced on the outer, later portion of the disc.

The bits are the bits whether they are at the edge of the disc or the inner part of the disc. If a player can't read the disc correctly there is error correction to help, and then the sound gets either choppy or very digitally noisy.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2021 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


So why weren't Discs 3 and 4 combined for a 3CD set instead of 4?
Just wondering. The price is very reasonable either way.


I speak from ignorance, but perhaps licensing reasons? Disc 4 is an entirely different recording, after all, and I note that it appears to have its own chunk of legalese on the back cover. But whether it was that or just aesthetics, the price is indeed very reasonable -- only $5 more than the old 2-CD version, I believe!


I agree with you both that the price is fantastic! I was hoping for $40 but considering this was released more than a decade after their previous edition, I'll bet that mere $5 extra barely covers inflation -- this is practically the same price. It's also nice, for folks like TerraEpon and myself who worry about shelf space, that a 4 CD set doesn't take up any extra space compared with a 3 CD set.

This is actually a very similar situation to their 2 CD Patton release from years back -- that one was a 2 CD set in a slimline package (taking up the same space on the shelf as a 1 CD case), for the same price as 1 CD too:
https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.6806/.f

You'll notice the total play time is 77:45 -- it could have easily fit on that one CD, including both album and film recordings and all of the neat extras. But it was on separate CDs because the unique album recording was owned by UMG (just as with Masada), and I believe when things are sub-licensed from UMG, they handle the disc manufacturing themselves. Therefore, whether it's a required licensing issue or more of a manufacturing issue resulting from ownership, it makes sense in both cases that the UMG-owned album recording gets its own disc.

If Varese didn't control the film recordings of the two Flint scores in perpetuity, no doubt Intrada would have released the film and UMG-owned album recordings of each of those together, and the UMG-owned album recordings would have been put on their own disc. But since Varese has perpetuity dibs on the film recordings, Intrada only could release the album recordings, which they were able to pair because they were both UMG and therefore could be licensed and manufactured together on the same disc.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2021 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

Just received my copy today.

Ya know, what I really like about this new release is that it has a little something more for BOTH Jerry Goldsmith and Mort Stevens fans. Simply wonderful stuff here.

A truly marvelous Christmas gift to us all from our friends at Intrada.

Thank you so much to Doug, Roger and the whole gang!:-)

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2021 - 12:50 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

This could be our release of the year, assuming the London album is as praised, and the Mort Stevens stuff is also as praised.

You get jittery in anticipation of certain drops in your mailbox, this is one of them.

I always got the impression that this was Jerry Goldsmith "doing" Miklos Rozsa in high-historical mode. Jerry could lift idioms just like Rozsa, and incorporate them into his modernist style.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   erepel   (Member)

Nice to see the LP art on the back of the booklet. Does anyone have a lead on a high-res jpg of that album art?

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

This could be our release of the year, assuming the London album is as praised, and the Mort Stevens stuff is also as praised.

You get jittery in anticipation of certain drops in your mailbox, this is one of them.

I always got the impression that this was Jerry Goldsmith "doing" Miklos Rozsa in high-historical mode. Jerry could lift idioms just like Rozsa, and incorporate them into his modernist style.


Well sort of. Goldsmith had his own unique style of doing historical related subjects and even in THE FINAL CONFLICT he was able bring a certain holiness or religious sentiment for Damian's cult. Its sort of the Anti-Christ Ben-Hur (if you allow) for me- and I love that effect he was to bring with it. On the Middle Eastern subjects he was able to do his own research as witnessed in THE WIND AND THE LION as well as QBVIII- Both have an indelible middle eastern ethnic feel to it with an influence Jewish sound.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2021 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Nice to see the LP art on the back of the booklet. Does anyone have a lead on a high-res jpg of that album art?

Every spot that has it seems to have this exact version, 1600 x 1600. For now, this is the best I can find.

https://store.intrada.com/core/media/media.nl?id=38167&c=ACCT67745&h=dwOV6kyqHjWhFwxh_GznLWQZEPQi73W7gngyfpeunQ7B7cMJ

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2021 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   CCOJOE   (Member)

Got my copy yesterday and it is as glorious as I hoped it would be. Beautiful job, Intrada! Thank you!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2021 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   12-Mile Reef   (Member)

Nice to see the LP art on the back of the booklet. Does anyone have a lead on a high-res jpg of that album art?

This is the best quality of the LP cover I've been able to find:



But if anyone has a better version it would be great if they could share it here.

 
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