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 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Imagine buying a 2-CD set for an album of pop, rock or country music, and the second CD had most of the same songs on it. Film scores have to be the ONLY genre of music that does this a lot of the time. These "original album presentations" (unless they feature a unique recording of the score) are like those cups of slimy coleslaw you get with a meal that sit there uneaten and eventually thrown away. And those cups of coleslaw are at least free! If we want those albums, we can just hang onto our old copies, or buy one dirt-cheap off of eBay.

I'm sick of this shit. I buy two of these expanded 2-CD reissues, yet I'm paying twenty dollars extra for NOTHING.


Many fans never purchased the original 1995 album and it's now very difficult to find, so it's actually really wonderful that those fans can enjoy both the full score and Horner's prepared highlights version. Personally, in the instance of many of such 2-CD releases from Intrada, LLL and other labels, I wind up listening more often to the original album highlights these days rather than full scores, because, I mean, who has the time? smile


Exactly this. I enjoy having everything, but I also enjoy having the original album. I never had it. When I watched the movie a few years back I found out that the '95 album was way too expensive for my taste. The original album has unique edits anyway, so this is the best of both worlds.


I'm in the, "Include the OST" camp. It's remastered and/or a different presentation of the work. Still bummed out LLL didn't include the OST with their otherwise amazing CEOT3K release.

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

Hey guys, remember how back in the late 90s all limited edition specialty label *single-disc* releases were $19.99?

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/2022?endYear=1999&amount=30.99

You know that label expenses have continued to go up over the past quarter century, right?

I'd love to see some of you people start your own label and try to make ends meet. You act like Intrada is ripping you off, when if their prices had raised simply with the inflation index since 1999, you'd be paying $35 for SINGLE disc releases (BEFORE tax and shipping), and $43-52 for double disc releases (again, before tax and shipping).

I'm broke and can't even afford a $20 release right now. The degree of entitlement here never fails to astonish me.

Yavar


At that time it was easier and cheaper to buy limited edition overseas. I even remember finding cd scores (some limited too!) at local shops.

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

That's great! What does it have to do with Intrada?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

That's great! What does it have to do with Intrada?

Yavar


Intrada released an expanded score in 2 cd presentation and I am discussing in this public forum the need of the original album presentation. That's all, I made it clear in my first message. You decided to argue this relating to another facts from 90's.

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)

Hey guys, remember how back in the late 90s all limited edition specialty label *single-disc* releases were $19.99?

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/2022?endYear=1999&amount=30.99

You know that label expenses have continued to go up over the past quarter century, right?

I'd love to see some of you people start your own label and try to make ends meet. You act like Intrada is ripping you off, when if their prices had raised simply with the inflation index since 1999, you'd be paying $35 for SINGLE disc releases (BEFORE tax and shipping), and $43-52 for double disc releases (again, before tax and shipping).

I'm broke and can't even afford a $20 release right now. The degree of entitlement here never fails to astonish me.

Yavar


Spolier alert: Yavar is defending the labels without a second thought. Maybe one day he’ll get that job at Varese or Intrada.

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)

That's great! What does it have to do with Intrada?

Yavar



Well the loss of potential sales could presumably hurt future releases you want.

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Oh, to be so entitled.

Access is priceless.

Stay frosty.

Graham


You summed up this thread perfectly, Graham!

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Imagine buying a 2-CD set for an album of pop, rock or country music, and the second CD had most of the same songs on it.

Have you ever bought a greatest hits album from a favorite band? Countless bands offer these albums that are mostly songs from other albums with 1 to 3 songs that are otherwise unavailable. So if the band releasing this album is a favorite of yours, odds are you already own all the albums and are forced to buy the greatest hit album that that has between 90% to 95% of content you already own to get the original material.

Personally, I own the original album, and I am very happy that Intrada released this. This seems to be the dilemma the labels face when releasing expanded releases and they have to decide whether to include the OST:

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Michael, your Far Side share is brilliant and spot on.

When Varese didn't release a two disc set for The Iron Giant: The Deluxe Edition, people complained about the early alternates they left off to keep it at one disc. And now when Intrada releases a two disc Jumanji to include all of the unique/different album versions of cues (different takes/edits/etc.) in remastered sound... people also complain. (To be fair, they may not be the same people.)

They can't win.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Would anyone else list something at $3000.99 rather than $2999.99... or $300.99 rather than $299.99... or $30.99 rather than $29.99?

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Sometimes including the OST is contractual. Sometimes the OST contains special edits. Sometimes the OST has different takes than what the film version offer. Sometimes the OST is a re-recording. Often it's a mixture or two or more of the above. And most of the times said OST is remastered for the deluxe edition. It's not a decision a label makes a whim and has to make a damned if you do/damned if you don't move.

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

I love the 2 disc expanded releases. I agree it’s a bummer about the prices being higher but I don’t fault Intrada or LLL. This is the world we now live in. Movie lovers are now shelling out $25-$30 plus to upgrade their favorite movies to 4K. Times are tough for everyone and I just choose to be really picky on what is worth the money now.

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

My review: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/jumanji-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/

These reviews are hugely helpful reference points for the differences between score and OST, so thank you so much for that.

One thing not mentioned in your review that I'm wondering about; as you pointed out the "Jumanji Drums" are the percussion bits we talked about earlier in the thread, but are those segregated in this presentation to the one track or do they appear in the score proper? From your write-up it sounds like the cues with the drums as heard in the film might have been the work of the music editor.

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Volunteers ? The Hand ? Heaven help us? The dresser?

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2022 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   jb-martin   (Member)

My review: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/jumanji-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/

These reviews are hugely helpful reference points for the differences between score and OST, so thank you so much for that.

One thing not mentioned in your review that I'm wondering about; as you pointed out the "Jumanji Drums" are the percussion bits we talked about earlier in the thread, but are those segregated in this presentation to the one track or do they appear in the score proper? From your write-up it sounds like the cues with the drums as heard in the film might have been the work of the music editor.


Thank you Mike for your message. I'm glad that my texts can be useful to some people.

The drums that are heard in the movie (for example when Peter and Judy first approach the game in the attic) are not on this album.

The booklet explains very well that these percussions are not part of James Horner's original soundtrack. It is a sound heard by the actors.

The composer recorded only one percussion track, the one on disc 2. And it is the same percussion that is heard at the beginning and end of the album.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2022 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

How can I play the sound samples? Neither iTunes or VLC will play m3u files for me.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2022 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

How can I play the sound samples? Neither iTunes or VLC will play m3u files for me.

Try downloading the playlist file and loading into the player. That works on Foobar, at least.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2022 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

How can I play the sound samples? Neither iTunes or VLC will play m3u files for me.

Try downloading the playlist file and loading into the player. That works on Foobar, at least.


Thanks for the suggestion.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2022 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   Chris.McEneany   (Member)

Here's my exhaustive take on this fabulous score!
Major thanks to Intrada for such a terrific release.
https://youtu.be/ZSkgk5yjebk

Cheers

Chris Kilt-Man

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2022 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

This sounds soooooooo much better.

At least to these ears.

Graham

 
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