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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12      General Discussion: New Intrada - THE ROCK    FIRST   PRIOR   3 4 5 6 7    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 5:46 AM     By:   jedizim   (Member) Ordered this one. Thank you Intrada.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 6:24 AM     By:   jwb1   (Member) Why so many alternates are missing ? They aren't that hard to find if you really want them. Hopefully Armageddon is next.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 7:18 AM     By:   Seajay4600   (Member) Why so many alternates are missing ? They aren't that hard to find if you really want them. Hopefully Armageddon is next. Per Roger on Facebook “Armageddon was nixed by the composer”. Sadly Trevor feels the original soundtrack is enough.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 7:45 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) Why so many alternates are missing ? They aren't that hard to find if you really want them. Hopefully Armageddon is next. Per Roger on Facebook “Armageddon was nixed by the composer”. Sadly Trevor feels the original soundtrack is enough. That's absolutely not true!!!! What a tragedy!!!!    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 7:48 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Trevor is right. The score album is already pretty "noisy" as is, with many overbearing, percussive tracks that are heavy on the ears, and needs whittling rather than expansion to let the truly great tracks shine. One of these days, I need to get it down from 50 to some 30 minutes.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 7:54 AM     By:   Prince Damian   (Member) Hopefully Armageddon is next. Per Roger on Facebook “Armageddon was nixed by the composer”. Sadly Trevor feels the original soundtrack is enough. I'd go along with that. I refreshed myself with it yesterday.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 8:02 AM     By:   Per   (Member) Per Roger on Facebook “Armageddon was nixed by the composer”. Sadly Trevor feels the original soundtrack is enough. He didn't specify Rabin though. In an (old) interview with Harry Gregson-Williams, he said he didn't want his music from Armageddon released, so it might as well be his contributions he's talking about. While I have no idea if Rabin don't want more of his music from Armageddon released either, keep in mind that there are entire themes absent from the OST, so... Here's a link to the HG-W interview: https://www.ifiji.com/yumbo/hgwinfo.htm    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 8:04 AM     By:   Per   (Member) Trevor is right. The score album is already pretty "noisy" as is, with many overbearing, percussive tracks that are heavy on the ears, and needs whittling rather than expansion to let the truly great tracks shine. One of these days, I need to get it down from 50 to some 30 minutes. ...and add (a minimum !) of those 20 minutes back from the other half of the score that's not on the OST at all!    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 8:40 AM     By:   ClaytonMG   (Member) Trevor is right. The score album is already pretty "noisy" as is, with many overbearing, percussive tracks that are heavy on the ears, and needs whittling rather than expansion to let the truly great tracks shine. One of these days, I need to get it down from 50 to some 30 minutes. I'd say on Armageddon the expansion would change what you whittle down to. There is about half the music missing and as someone said entire themes that repeat through the entire last 2/3rds of the movie are missing. Even the opening music (that repeats 2 other times) was left off because Rabin wanted it to be his album only (if I remember right, it has been 25 years now). It's a shame one of the composers (or maybe even both?) don't want to revisit it. Could've been a great release for the 25th anniversary! But at least we're getting The Rock!    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 8:44 AM     By:   ClaytonMG   (Member) Moon on a stick aside, I really like the film's end credit suite which is much shorter on this release. I suppose there is reason for this and won't stop me purchasing, but I'm curious. I believe the end credits was mostly made up of other cues.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 9:22 AM     By:   Mike Esssss   (Member) Here's a link to the HG-W interview: https://www.ifiji.com/yumbo/hgwinfo.htm Oh man, Yumbo's page! That's a trip down memory lane. This bit regarding THE ROCK stands out: Q: What was your contribution to THE ROCK? I basically helped Nick Glennie Smith and Hans get through it - there was a mountain of music to be written and hardly any time (what's new), not to mention probably the most odious director alive plus the eternal task master Jerry "let's torture Harry now" Bruckheimer ... I thought this was a really interesting comment, too: Q: Who's the most understanding director you've worked with? They all bring something different to the music making process - sometimes havoc and confusion even! But Tony Scott was the most incisive and he posseses amazing insight into the possibilities that score can open up.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 9:33 AM     By:   nuts_score   (Member) Tony Scott was a mensch. I often wonder what a movie like The Rock would look like in his talented vision. As adept as Michael Bay is at this kind of production (Thor even going so far to consider him an auteur), Scott "McOldsmobile" McOldsmith's opinion that The Rock is an irritating movie has a lot of truth behind it. And it is a film I love, but I do recognize that it must be annoying to a large percentage of potential viewers of the film. Tony Scott is practically a sensitive soul compared to Michael Bay! While Michael Bay could've been capable enough to make something like Top Gun or Unstoppable, he has never once shown the ability to make something like The Hunger or Revenge.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 10:05 AM     By:   First Breath   (Member) Here's a link to the HG-W interview: https://www.ifiji.com/yumbo/hgwinfo.htm Oh man, Yumbo's page! That's a trip down memory lane. This bit regarding THE ROCK stands out: Q: What was your contribution to THE ROCK? I basically helped Nick Glennie Smith and Hans get through it - there was a mountain of music to be written and hardly any time (what's new), not to mention probably the most odious director alive plus the eternal task master Jerry "let's torture Harry now" Bruckheimer ... I thought this was a really interesting comment, too: Q: Who's the most understanding director you've worked with? They all bring something different to the music making process - sometimes havoc and confusion even! But Tony Scott was the most incisive and he posseses amazing insight into the possibilities that score can open up. I wonder how composers like Jablonsky and Balfe have managed to work repeatedly with Bay if he is so odious? Maybe HGW is a bit difficult too?    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 10:49 AM     By:   Mike Esssss   (Member) I wonder how composers like Jablonsky and Balfe have managed to work repeatedly with Bay if he is so odious? Maybe HGW is a bit difficult too? Maybe, or maybe he's not but their personalities aren't a good match. Could be lots of reasons. I just think it's funny to note. Tony Scott was a mensch. I often wonder what a movie like The Rock would look like in his talented vision. As adept as Michael Bay is at this kind of production (Thor even going so far to consider him an auteur), Scott "McOldsmobile" McOldsmith's opinion that The Rock is an irritating movie has a lot of truth behind it. And it is a film I love, but I do recognize that it must be annoying to a large percentage of potential viewers of the film. Tony Scott is practically a sensitive soul compared to Michael Bay! While Michael Bay could've been capable enough to make something like Top Gun or Unstoppable, he has never once shown the ability to make something like The Hunger or Revenge. Scott gets painted with the "visual stylist" brush, and that's certainly true to an extent, but what gets lost is not only his emotional acuity but his precision in tying what he's doing visually to the emotional undercurrent of the piece. It's what makes movies like MAN ON FIRE, CRIMSON TIDE and even ENEMY OF THE STATE so good and so distinctly his.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 10:50 AM     By:   ClaytonMG   (Member) Here's a link to the HG-W interview: https://www.ifiji.com/yumbo/hgwinfo.htm Oh man, Yumbo's page! That's a trip down memory lane. This bit regarding THE ROCK stands out: Q: What was your contribution to THE ROCK? I basically helped Nick Glennie Smith and Hans get through it - there was a mountain of music to be written and hardly any time (what's new), not to mention probably the most odious director alive plus the eternal task master Jerry "let's torture Harry now" Bruckheimer ... I thought this was a really interesting comment, too: Q: Who's the most understanding director you've worked with? They all bring something different to the music making process - sometimes havoc and confusion even! But Tony Scott was the most incisive and he posseses amazing insight into the possibilities that score can open up. I wonder how composers like Jablonsky and Balfe have managed to work repeatedly with Bay if he is so odious? Maybe HGW is a bit difficult too? I think there's somewhat of a history of Bay being like that. There was an interview with Mark Mancina about Bad Boys (I believe the foot chase scene) where he was presenting it to Bay and he just wasn't interested at all (if I'm remembering correctly). But I think really its just finding the right dynamic with people (like Jablobsky and Balfe) so it just has a way of working. Different strokes for different folks.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 11:01 AM     By:   nuts_score   (Member) Scott gets painted with the "visual stylist" brush, and that's certainly true to an extent, but what gets lost is not only his emotional acuity but his precision in tying what he's doing visually to the emotional undercurrent of the piece. It's what makes movies like MAN ON FIRE, CRIMSON TIDE and even ENEMY OF THE STATE so good and so distinctly his. Quite truthful. And his tragic death likely reveals an interiority that even his family never felt aware of. We were all the luckier to have received his artistry on the big screen in our lifetimes.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 12:29 PM     By:   Graham   (Member) Shipping notification. Graham    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 1:53 PM     By:   Per   (Member) Really? didn't know that. I think I was in that park in 1995, just prior to THE ROCK came out. If you haven't heard it, you should check it out. The main theme he re-used for this french live show is probably one of my favorite themes ever. And certainly the big bould statement of it in the demo for The Rock. Too bad none of those re-used themes could be included in this new release...    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 1:56 PM     By:   Randy Watson   (Member) Per Roger on Facebook “Armageddon was nixed by the composer”. Sadly Trevor feels the original soundtrack is enough. He didn't specify Rabin though. In an (old) interview with Harry Gregson-Williams, he said he didn't want his music from Armageddon released, so it might as well be his contributions he's talking about. While I have no idea if Rabin don't want more of his music from Armageddon released either, keep in mind that there are entire themes absent from the OST, so... Here's a link to the HG-W interview: https://www.ifiji.com/yumbo/hgwinfo.htm Considering so far none of Rabin's scores have been expanded, even though he scored quite some popular films that seem to be in the labels wheelhouse, I'd say there's a good chance that Rabin indeed nixed it. Quite a shame cause Armageddon plays great in complete and chronological order. Some really excellent cues where left of the original album.    Posted:   Oct 3, 2023 - 2:17 PM     By:   Per   (Member) I believe the end credits was mostly made up of other cues. True, but it uses the OST version of "Hummel/SEALS" I think, only not the full thing. So maybe what's heard here (I'm just guessing) is a more full version of that different segment of the cue, which could match the length. Again, just a guess. Also cool to hear a different (newly made?) mix of "Naval Weapons Depot" that's heavier on the guitar. I wonder if what you hear in the film of the end of "Hummel/SEALS" (not the same segment as talked about above) also uses a mix heavier on the guitar vs the original/album version. But personally I prefer the "original" (if you can call it that) version, since the choir is then more prominent (or vice versa, choir is less promiment when the guitar is more prominent).     General Discussion: New Intrada - THE ROCK    << < 3 4 5 6 7  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

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