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 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Agreed, and so does Metacritic, 42 qualifies it as subpar;
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/jurassic-park-iii

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Agreed, and so does Metacritic, 42 qualifies it as subpar;
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/jurassic-park-iii


I know some people like it, but I can't stand it. It is the only film I almost walked out of. I kept saying to myself it will get better but it never did. So I'm glad it was a short film.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Agreed, and so does Metacritic, 42 qualifies it as subpar;
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/jurassic-park-iii


I know some people like it, but I can't stand it. It is the only film I almost walked out of. I kept saying to myself it will get better but it never did. So I'm glad it was a short film.


Joe Johnston, director of such good films as The Rocketeer and the first Captain America, is a good director. But the script for this one was just not there for him. There is not enough of a story for the director to work with, so the whole film feels uninspired at best.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Nakatomi   (Member)

I don't think it's the worst film I've ever seen or anything but "sub-par" fits the bill for me (completely off-topic and irrelevant... but has anyone else seen The Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace?). I preferred The Lost World (apart from that finale), but each to their own.

Joe Johnston, director of such good films as The Rocketeer and the first Captain America, is a good director.

I completely agree. He's better than his projects often deserve sometimes (I do enjoy that first Cap movie). Standout tracks for me on JPIII would be "Cooper's Last Stand" and "Bone Man Ben"

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Eh, I Loved JP3, in fact I found the stripped down version of the concept the perfect "monster film" and the most enjoyable of the original trilogy. No pretense at "awe and wonder" - just a short, lean good time. The music was excellent.

The Lost World excelled at being terrifying, and it had some of Williams' most exciting action music of his later career. Either way, both JP and TLW relied too much on the antic of the kids (and Laura Dern was bloody awful in JP).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I don't necessarily agree with you comments regarding the first two films, Oldsmith, but we definitely agree on JP3. A stripped-down, lean 'monster movie' that still adhered to the recipe of the first two -- some exploration/wonder combined with excellent atmosphere, a good, focussed trek/adventure storyline and some fine action setpieces. As I said earlier, the only thing I really didn't care for was that the ending felt kinda rushed; there were some good extra 20-30 minutes of film here.

I don't see or understand the issues that people have with it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I don't necessarily agree with you comments regarding the first two films, Oldsmith, but we definitely agree on JP3. A stripped-down, lean 'monster movie' that still adhered to the recipe of the first two -- some exploration/wonder combined with excellent atmosphere, a good, focussed trek/adventure storyline and some fine action setpieces. As I said earlier, the only thing I really didn't care for was that the ending felt kinda rushed; there were some good extra 20-30 minutes of film here.

I don't see or understand the issues that people have with it.


I think Tea Leoni was easily the most annoying JP character ever. The spinosaur looked like the giant machine it was, The whole filmed seemed rushed. It had a very anti-cimactic ending. I could go on and on. Sam Neill was good again however. And why did Grant and Ellie break up?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Never understood why people found Tea Leoni's character annoying. I think she's perfectly fine. The spinosaur was awesome; perfect way to "up the ante" from the T-Rex. If you want to talk "giant machines", the silly laboratory creation Indominus Rex from JURASSIC WORLD would fit the bill better.

Why Ellie and Grant broke up, is up to interpretation. They were never a great match from the get-go, and I guess Ellie's family concerns ultimately won the day. I think it was a fine way of writing out the situation for the sequel when it turned out Laura Dern could not have a major role in the film. Also, whatever one "wishes" the storyline could have been, doesn't really have anything to do with the quality of the movie as is; it reflects more what your own personal "dream scenario" is.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Never understood why people found Tea Leoni's character annoying. I think she's perfectly fine. The spinosaur was awesome; perfect way to "up the ante" from the T-Rex. If you want to talk "giant machines", the silly laboratory creation Indominus Rex from JURASSIC WORLD would fit the bill better.

Why Ellie and Grant broke up, is up to interpretation. They were never a great match from the get-go, and I guess Ellie's family concerns ultimately won the day. I think it was a fine way of writing out the situation for the sequel when it turned out Laura Dern could not have a major role in the film. Also, whatever one "wishes" the storyline could have been, doesn't really have anything to do with the quality of the movie as is; it reflects more what your own personal "dream scenario" is.


I don't mind animatronic dinosaurs, but the spinosaur animatronic looked fake. Also, spinosaurs mostly walked on all fours. It's mouth was made for catching fish, it didn't have much jaw pressure. I didn't like the Indominus either, but at least it looked real.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, I don't know much about dinosaurs. Never been particularly into them, except the "normal fascination" that most people have. For me, these films are more about experiences -- of "being there" or "being along for the ride". As such, JP3 works wonderfully, even if it may take some liberties with the science or biology of it all. Of course, if that is a criterion for you, you should also have a number of issues with the first film. I believe DNA corrupts after about a million years or so, so the DNA they find in the amber would never have worked in "real life".

One just has to accept artistic liberties with these films. You can't approach them as documentaries.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Well, I don't know much about dinosaurs. Never been particularly into them, except the "normal fascination" that most people have. For me, these films are more about experiences -- of "being there" or "being along for the ride". As such, JP3 works wonderfully, even if it may take some liberties with the science or biology of it all. Of course, if that is a criterion for you, you should also have a number of issues with the first film. I believe DNA corrupts after about a million years or so, so the DNA they find in the amber would never have worked in "real life".

One just has to accept artistic liberties with these films. You can't approach them as documentaries.


I'm sorry Thor, you like JPIII and that's cool. I don't want to take that away from you.smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 1:47 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thanks! smile I wish you gave it another chance one day, though, henry -- since you like the first two so much. And then tried to go into it with as open mind as possible. Maybe some qualities would reveal themselves to you, maybe not. Worth a try!

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 4:10 AM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

I know this isn't the right place, but the discussion has veered towards the film rather than the ST so here goes.

I could never figure out what exactly happened to the Ben character in the film. He and Eric were parasailing and had to detach when the boat they were tethered to was attacked by...something? They then landed on Isla Sorna and somehow Ben got entangled in the trees, not too high off the ground. Eric detached and landed safely on the ground and...what exactly happened to Ben? Did Eric just leave his ass there? Were they attacked by a dino causing Eric to run away and leaving Ben to become dinner? The next time we see Ben, he is a corpse. If a dino was the cause, wouldn't it have chomped him to smithereens? Did he have a sudden heart attack? Could someone fill in the blanks for me?

I enjoy the film, so don't take the above as criticism.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 4:20 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I think they were attacked by the flying dinosaurs (don't remember their names, sorry) that later become one of the main dino antagonists. How the son detached from the parasail and found shelter, is unknown, but I think it's a lovely little piece of elliptic storytelling where we as audience may fill out the gaps.

Incidentally, I'd love to see a JP film that told the story of Eric -- how he surived all that time in the jungle (much like Newt in ALIENS). Or another story about a SINGLE man or woman trying to survive. I'd have found that a thousand times more interesting than the big corporate/biological weapon direction they went in with WORLD.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 5:18 AM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

I much prefer the more lean and fun III than the overlong and boring THE LOST WORLD (IMO Spielberg's worst movie - except for the fantastic soundtrack, of course).

The main problem with III is the abrupt ending (and yes Thea Leoni is terrible in it [although I liked her in Deep Impact] - specially in the scene on which she finds the corpse).

The score to part III is very good too. The album is OK but I miss some of the music, like the pterodactyls part. I´d love a C&C version of the score.

On the opening it does not make much sence if you think too much about it (an unknown sea dinosaur attacked the boat? A Pterodactyl, but it stayed flying low in the fog? But for me it works better than the tanker arriving in San Diego with all crew dead while the T-Rex is locked in the cargo compartment in LOST WORLD.

One thing I never understood is why the sequels take place at a different island. During part I it is discovered that the dinosaurs are reproducing ("nature found a way") and most of them are alive at the end of the movie. So why transfer the action a "second" island instead of going back to the same island (I think it would be more interesting to see the action in the wreckages of the park than on a new island - well, in Jurassic World we got some of that)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

danbeck, amazing how I can agree so much with you on the merits of JP3, but then disagree so much on the other points you make! smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

Re the different island, blame Crichton. Never bothered me though.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I don't necessarily agree with you comments regarding the first two films, Oldsmith, but we definitely agree on JP3. A stripped-down, lean 'monster movie' that still adhered to the recipe of the first two -- some exploration/wonder combined with excellent atmosphere, a good, focussed trek/adventure storyline and some fine action setpieces. As I said earlier, the only thing I really didn't care for was that the ending felt kinda rushed; there were some good extra 20-30 minutes of film here.

I don't see or understand the issues that people have with it.


I think Tea Leoni was easily the most annoying JP character ever. The spinosaur looked like the giant machine it was, The whole filmed seemed rushed. It had a very anti-cimactic ending. I could go on and on. Sam Neill was good again however. And why did Grant and Ellie break up?


Agree with you on Tea Leoni, though I dislike her period and yes the ending was a bit anti-climaitc. The rest was "B" movie fun. The Spinosaur vs T-Rex fight is one of my favorite action scenes in all the JP films- just way to short.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I don't necessarily agree with you comments regarding the first two films, Oldsmith, but we definitely agree on JP3. A stripped-down, lean 'monster movie' that still adhered to the recipe of the first two -- some exploration/wonder combined with excellent atmosphere, a good, focussed trek/adventure storyline and some fine action setpieces. As I said earlier, the only thing I really didn't care for was that the ending felt kinda rushed; there were some good extra 20-30 minutes of film here.

I don't see or understand the issues that people have with it.


I think Tea Leoni was easily the most annoying JP character ever. The spinosaur looked like the giant machine it was, The whole filmed seemed rushed. It had a very anti-cimactic ending. I could go on and on. Sam Neill was good again however. And why did Grant and Ellie break up?


Agree with you on Tea Leoni, though I dislike her period and yes the ending was a bit anti-climaitc. The rest was "B" movie fun. The Spinosaur vs T-Rex fight is one of my favorite action scenes in all the JP films- just way to short.


Hi solium! Did you know the T rex animatronic in JPIII was the male T rex animatronic from TLW refurbished?

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I don't necessarily agree with you comments regarding the first two films, Oldsmith, but we definitely agree on JP3. A stripped-down, lean 'monster movie' that still adhered to the recipe of the first two -- some exploration/wonder combined with excellent atmosphere, a good, focussed trek/adventure storyline and some fine action setpieces. As I said earlier, the only thing I really didn't care for was that the ending felt kinda rushed; there were some good extra 20-30 minutes of film here.

I don't see or understand the issues that people have with it.


I think Tea Leoni was easily the most annoying JP character ever. The spinosaur looked like the giant machine it was, The whole filmed seemed rushed. It had a very anti-cimactic ending. I could go on and on. Sam Neill was good again however. And why did Grant and Ellie break up?


Agree with you on Tea Leoni, though I dislike her period and yes the ending was a bit anti-climaitc. The rest was "B" movie fun. The Spinosaur vs T-Rex fight is one of my favorite action scenes in all the JP films- just way to short.


Hi solium! Did you know the T rex animatronic in JPIII was the male T rex animatronic from TLW refurbished?


No, but makes sense.

 
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