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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: The Swimmer
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Janice Rule was magnificent in this film!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Would designer OnyaBirri approve of that yellow lounge chair, we wonder?

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Would designer OnyaBirri approve of that yellow lounge chair, we wonder?

Chartreuse was one of THE colors of the mid-to-late 1960s, so I would think so.

P.S. Don’t ever question chartreuse furniture again.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Would designer OnyaBirri approve of that yellow lounge chair, we wonder?

Chartreuse was one of THE colors of the mid-to-late 1960s, so I would think so.

P.S. Don’t ever question chartreuse furniture again.


I heartily approve of the color. The pleather material? In humid Florida, not so much. wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Just be thankful you weren’t here in the 1970s, when every car had vinyl upholstery! How people survived wearing polyester in the Florida summer still boggles my mind!

During that time, there were enough leftover 1960s relics to remind and fascinate this then-youngster of a bygone era.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


Chartreuse was one of THE colors of the mid-to-late 1960s, so I would think so.

P.S. Don’t ever question chartreuse furniture again.


Including chartreuse cocktails?

No matter, the podiatric lobe of my brain is satiated by ogling ... oops ... I meant admiring the architecture of Janice Rule's left foot.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I meant admiring the architecture of Janice Rule's left foot.

I doubt Preston’s book will devote a chapter to it, but I “dig” what you mean.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

No matter, the podiatric lobe of my brain is satiated by ogling ... oops ... I meant admiring the architecture of Janice Rule's left foot.

You can have it. And tell the creator that, as far as architecture goes, Onya thinks human feet are a design aberration. They are like weird evolutionary vestiges of hands.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Onya thinks human feet are a design aberration. They are like weird evolutionary vestiges of hands.

Good thing Onya likes trains.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Onya thinks human feet are a design aberration. They are like weird evolutionary vestiges of hands.

Good thing Onya likes trains.


Sorry, Zardoz, but just because I am a heterosexual male does not mean that I am so pre-programmed by the creator that I can't recognize a serious design flaw when I see one, whether it be on a chair, a building, or the leg of an actress.

Human feet are pathetic. Ask any chimp, gorilla, or orangutan, and they will tell you. Human toes are useless. Either they should operate like fingers, allowing us to play four-handed piano, or they shouldn't be there to begin with.

So have fun with your foot fetish. I'm not participating. smile

By the way, I think the creator agrees with me, but (s)he/it operates on a different time scale. We are paying the evolutionary price for being something between a chimp and whatever the next thing will be.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Nedmerrill   (Member)

Just be thankful you weren’t here in the 1970s, when every car had vinyl upholstery! How people survived wearing polyester in the Florida summer still boggles my mind!

Dueing that time, there were enough leftover 1960s relics to remind and fascinate this then-youngster of a bygone era.


I remember those hot summer days in the 70's when our car had been baking in the sun, and having to peel my seared bare legs off the scorching vinyl upholstery.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Discovery Magazine

The Purpose of Toes


David Carrier, a biologist at Brown University, explains why toes are essential gears in the engine of the human body, letting us walk and run with exquisite efficiency. Carrier’s analogy between cars and people is surprisingly precise.

In a car, the engine is most effective when the pistons are pumping at a certain rate and the crankshaft is spinning in a certain range of revolutions per minute. Above that range, the pistons don’t transmit force as well, and the extra revolutions just waste gas without increasing the car’s speed much. Gears solve this problem by changing the ratio between the speed of the engine and the speed of the wheels. Shift up to a higher gear and the wheels can spin faster while the pistons chug along at peak efficiency. Carrier realized that muscles also have a window of peak performance, beyond which their efficiency drops off. It occurred to him that evolution might have imitated Detroit and incorporated gears into the human body.

To find out, Carrier and his colleagues Kathleen Earls and Norman Heglund videotaped volunteers running over a force-sensitive plate and calculated the magnitude and direction of the forces in each step. You can think of a step as the tilting of a lever. The ankle is the fulcrum, and one of the arms of the lever extends back to the point above the heel where the Achilles tendon attaches. When the foot hits the ground, it decelerates, and in order to accelerate the foot again, the calf muscle contracts. It pulls up on the Achilles tendon, thus tilting down the other arm of the lever, which extends to the point on the sole where the force is applied to the ground. The rotating foot propels the leg and the whole body forward. A problem soon arises, though. During a step, Carrier says, the center of force moves very rapidly from the heel to the ball of the foot. The force of the contracting calf makes the lever tilt at a faster and faster rate, which the calf muscle has to match by contracting faster. Although Carrier hasn’t actually measured the contraction rates yet, he figures that at some point the muscle will be working beyond its range of peak performance. The walker then faces the same two choices as the driver who’s starting to top out in first gear: he can stop accelerating his foot and give up on moving fast, or he can shift gears. That’s where the toes come in.

Changing gears in a car, Carrier explains, is like changing the length of the arm of a lever. Imagine a boy sitting halfway along a seesaw. If you push down on your end at six inches a second, he will rise three inches a second. But if the boy moves out to the far end of the seesaw, you can raise him at the same speed by pushing down at only three inches a second. By lengthening his end of the lever, you’ve decreased the ratio of engine speed (you) to wheel speed (the boy). In other words, you’ve shifted to a higher gear. In Carrier’s model, when your weight is on the ball of your foot during a step, you are in low gear. If we didn’t have toes, he says, the center of force would stay under the ball because that’s where your foot would end. But by rolling onto your toes, you lengthen the arm of the lever. Now your calf muscle can contract at a slower, more effective rate and still tilt the end of your foot at a higher speed. Once again, in other words, you’ve just shifted to a higher gear. Your foot makes that small acceleration during each step of a steady run. When you are beginning to run from a standing start, though, it accelerates as much as four times more. Carrier also had his volunteers run this way, hitting the force plate with their second step. The results will not surprise anyone who has ever run the 100-yard dash--or drag-raced away from a stoplight with a stick shift. In both cases the point is to maximize acceleration--not efficiency--by maximizing the force applied to the ground. The foot does this by keeping that arm of the lever short. During rapid acceleration, the center of force stays under the ball of the foot until almost the very end, says Carrier. It’s as if you’re staying in first gear and never getting to second.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

David Carrier, a biologist at Brown University, explains why toes are essential gears in the engine of the human body, letting us walk and run with exquisite efficiency. Carrier’s analogy between cars and people is surprisingly precise.

Whatevs. I'd rather have the ability to play four-handed piano.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Ask any chimp, gorilla, or orangutan, and they will tell you.

We went from The Swimmer to Planet of the Apes via foot traffic. At least we're still in 1968. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Ask any chimp, gorilla, or orangutan, and they will tell you.

We went from The Swimmer to Planet of the Apes via foot traffic. At least we're still in 1968. smile


Don't even get me started on prehensile tails.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 7:52 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

"I heartily approve of the color. The pleather material? In humid Florida, not so much. wink"

***

That scene was shot here in sunny California, but the setting is supposed to be in suburban Connecticut. (Which of course is where the original version of the scene was shot with Barbara Loden.)

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

"Human feet are pathetic. Ask any chimp, gorilla, or orangutan, and they will tell you. Human toes are useless."

***

Why ask them, when you can ask me? I was born with toes on both feet, but ever since a bus hit me in 2008 my left foot has been without toes, so I have a clear perspective on both sides of the toe issue. And if you ask me, they come in pretty handy (no pun intended) when you're walking.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

"Looking forward to Preston's book on The Swimmer. Hopefully the typesetter will not follow the ee cummings style that Preston has dazzled us with here."

***

Huh? Where?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

"Human feet are pathetic. Ask any chimp, gorilla, or orangutan, and they will tell you. Human toes are useless."

***

Why ask them, when you can ask me? I was born with toes on both feet, but ever since a bus hit me in 2008 my left foot has been without toes, so I have a clear perspective on both sides of the toe issue. And if you ask me, they come in pretty handy (no pun intended) when you're walking.


I am very sorry to hear about your accident. I thought it obvious that my post was in jest, but in our emoticon-dependent era, I guess not.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Many thanks, but not to worry, Onya, I took your anti-pedal-extensions screed in the spirit you intended and tried to respond in kind, so I'm sorry if I ended up sounding (again no pun intended) heavy-handed. Happily, my long-ago encounter with the bus is behind me now, and I'm the picture of health, and wishing the same for you, (the health, not the bus).

 
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