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Haineshisway
Here's the problem - when this thing went up at amazon the second pressing had not been announced and therefore everyone who has preordered this up until, when, a couple of days ago, should get the bonus CD because amazon was selling the limited edition not the new one. There is no way around this, I'm afraid and the right thing needs to be done. In order to sell out the limited edition they made copies available to e-tailers. Now they're sold out and saying that only pre-orders through the WB Shop get the extra disc. How many pre-orders WERE there through the WB Shop, because there most certainly were not 1000 pre-orders or they could not possibly have made it available to other e-tailers. You see the problem here - so they are not making 1000 of the new CD because why should they when they don't have that many pre-orders?
I love you large, Mr. Kraft, but this needs to be included with ALL the amazon pre-orders that were made before the announcement of a) the delay, and b) the second pressing. Taschen would not do this on a book, whether it was bought at Taschen or elsewhere. And their second printings of certain things are never identical to the first.
How do you know there wasn't a second pressing R/Etailers were autorized to wholesale? You are making assumptions and being a malcontent, you're arguing that just because some decided to order from Amazon and elsewhere they deserve it.
I recall Taschen's The Stanley Kubrick Archives, The first printing included a strip of 70mm print of 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Autorized? I'M a malcontent? I don't think you want to be calling me that - just a friendly warning. I know there wasn't a second pressing for e-tailers because the second pressing was JUST announced - I make NO assumptions, but you are most certainly making assumptions that I'm making assumptions. And yes, the FIRST printing of the Kubrick book included the film strip - whether you ordered from Taschen OR ANYWHERE ELSE. When they reprinted the book it was in a smaller format and sans filmstrip. Now that you've said hello, I'm sure you must be Going.
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Well, I jumped ship to Amazon.........
But then I jumped back again after Peter's warning at moviemusic. Glad I did.
The same here.
When I saw this elephant going for about $100 less on Amazon, that's when I thought something was up. I stayed with WB while many here were jumping ship. So now what do you want?
Agree, I wanted the box set cheaper as possible but when I read Peter's warning I went quickly to cancel my order with Amazon and again I placed my order with WB.
I am really happy with this bonus CD, and I am really sorry for the people that finally ordered this with Amazon in order to save some dollars. At least you are paying $476 without shipping charges.
Cheers
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Dude, who's "They"? "They" did this and "They" did that- you really think so? You really think it was planned in advance but you knew all along?
I'm getting paranoid.
I told my wife about the Box being sold at Amazon too, for less, and she snapped back "Don't do it!"
When did you first know it wasn't gong to make its December deadline, where did you pull that out of, Basil?
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Nov 23, 2010 - 1:30 PM
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AJ
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Now it appears this is not the case, those on Amazon et al will get a 'different' box, minus an additional CD, maybe ?
Unfortunately, that is the risk that many of those buyers chose to take when they elected to pre order from a middleman rather than from the manufacturer directly. Caveat emptor.
That said, I agree that potential buyers would have benefited from greater clarity/transparency from WBR and/or Mr. Kraft. I do suspect, however, that WBR is trying to make the best of a difficult situation. If what I previously surmised is true, WBR could have simply canceled contracts w/ all resellers, who then would have left all their pre orders high & dry. Would that have been a preferable option? Of course not. Rather, the second pressing absent the certificate & autographed CD allows resellers to fulfill their pre orders; simultaneously, it partially protects the investment that collectors have made in the numbered limited edition.
AJ
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. . . Rather, the second pressing absent the certificate & autographed CD allows resellers to fulfill their pre orders; simultaneously, it partially protects the investment that collectors have made in the numbered limited edition.
I would venture that it insures it.
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Nov 23, 2010 - 2:19 PM
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Yes, I know it's about the music and it shouldn't matter ultimately which version I own. But having an numbered edition with an autographed bonus disc is just too cool. Slept well last night knowing I got in under the wire . . .
Today, MASSIVE! Disappointment. I was one of the people who jumped ship to Amazon and now Amazon has cancelled my order (actually it's just been delayed until Feb). I had assumed (rightfully so!) that I pre-ordered the limited edition version. Now that appears to not have been the case. The only version available at the time was the limited one. There was no mention/listing of the other "regular" version. Now magically it appears. Based on industry protocal I figured Warner would sell x amount directly then make a few available to dealers/retailers. Seemed perfectly normal to me. So I made the plunge.
I'm just so glad that Kritzerland, FSM, LALA, Intrada, SAE, Moviemusic,etc are such great companies that do whatever they can to avoid such confusion and really do everything they can to minimize disappointment and avoid messes like this.
Of course, I may be jumping the gun a bit. Since I ordered it before the website indicated the sell-out, perhaps I still qualify for the "limited" bonus disc autographed version. Though, that seems unlikely at this point. And, I suppose ultimately that's my point. It's confusing and frustrating.
Drowning...
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To be quite honest, I'm a tad sad that this box set didn't come with a private dinner with Danny and his lovely wife. I think that would have been a nice effort and since they aren't offering that or at least maybe a five minute walk through Richard's house where we could grab ONE thing for ourselves to take home. Now that would have been nice and the fact they didn't offer those things, to be honest, I'm quite upset.
To give you an idea of how upset I am, I'm tempted, VERY tempted to now only go see every 24th movie that Danny scores, yes I know that is going completely nuts, but people I'm close to it.
Don't get me started on the box, 1000 of the same thing??? They could have at least let us design each box ourselves so they would be different, that way we all would get the exact box we wanted, but no, they made a 1000 of the same, man that burns me up.
Don't get me started on this new CD thingy, oh my gosh, just the thought of the CD makes me upset. Insult to injury, it's signed by Danny Elfman, so, man that upsets me, I'd rather have his kid sign it, now that would be sweet, or maybe have Danny sign each one using a pen held in between his toes, now THAT would have been cool.
What a world we live in, so sad sad :-)
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To be quite honest, I'm a tad sad that this box set didn't come with a private dinner with Danny and his lovely wife. I think that would have been a nice effort and since they aren't offering that or at least maybe a five minute walk through Richard's house where we could grab ONE thing for ourselves to take home. Now that would have been nice and the fact they didn't offer those things, to be honest, I'm quite upset.
To give you an idea of how upset I am, I'm tempted, VERY tempted to now only go see every 24th movie that Danny scores, yes I know that is going completely nuts, but people I'm close to it.
Don't get me started on the box, 1000 of the same thing??? They could have at least let us design each box ourselves so they would be different, that way we all would get the exact box we wanted, but no, they made a 1000 of the same, man that burns me up.
Don't get me started on this new CD thingy, oh my gosh, just the thought of the CD makes me upset. Insult to injury, it's signed by Danny Elfman, so, man that upsets me, I'd rather have his kid sign it, now that would be sweet, or maybe have Danny sign each one using a pen held in between his toes, now THAT would have been cool.
What a world we live in, so sad sad :-)
Screw the CDs. I want Elfman to give me his child (numbered of course)!!!!!!! (Your humor isn't lost on all of us, Petie, hehe)
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Jasom-
He didn't order it! He also knew it wouldn't be done until next year and he didn't want to get "duped".
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Nov 23, 2010 - 2:46 PM
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TheSeeker
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You know what I think?
I think that this whole limited CD collecting is becoming too complex for me to want to be bothered. In between having to be on-spot, finger at the ready, for some releases (difficult to do if you're out in god-knows-where-B.C. with NO Internet access for days), to shifting release schedules (not a problem at all for me, actually gives me more time to save up), to re-releases, special re-re-releases (Patton/Rambo), to partial re-releases (Karate Kid), to regular releases going OOP after three months (Last Airbender) to hyper-super-mega box sets (this one)...
...I'm just a guy who loves film music and wants to hear as much as possible on the OST.
For me, this game is wearing thin, to be honest. While I will continue to buy scores I like and will try to support the labels whenever possible, I'm voting with my wallet, too. And more and more, I find that my vote these days is 'no'.
Rambling over and CK out.
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