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 Posted:   Oct 13, 2011 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

YOR believes that the new movie is much more violent e filled with action scenes than the original from Carpenter. The music probably reflects this...

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2011 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I don't know. Carpenter's scores have always, to my recollection (not being an expert on his oeuvre), been fairly minimalist, and Morricone has always forged his own path and not always worked the way other composers were working -- hasn't he frequently been a composer of the record some tracks and themes to be rearranged by the filmmakers to fit the film later variety?

And Beltrami's scores, while modern and often aggressive, are rarely so in the same way as other composers of his own generation.


Definitely. Carpenter has always used his music to build the suspense over the course of the picture, rather than letting the music inform the audience that they need to feel on edge like most contemporary composers are asked to do. I think the time of minimalistic Horror scores is past us, though Jeff Grace had an incredibly noble attempt with House of the Devil a few years ago.

Morricone is Morricone. Indescribable, unpredictable, a genius of our time. It's been an immense pleasure being able to grow up and grow older listening to his music -- within films and outside of them. 'Nuff said.

Beltrami flirts that fine line between the old and the new school. Goldsmith himself complimented his pupil ever so on his ability to craft melodic thematic material, and Beltrami's style is so defined now that he's a master amongst his contemporaries. Just imagine is Brian Tyler had scored The Thing! Headache! (I'm joking but he's not as crafty on Horror material like Beltrami is.)

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2011 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   pzfan   (Member)

Another Beltrami's action filler. Stay away.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2011 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

I'd be a lot more excited about the film if there was a single review for it at Rotten Tomatoes by now.

Reviews are starting to pop up on Metacritic:

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-thing/critic-reviews

Here's a lukewarm review by Roger Ebert;

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111012/REVIEWS/111019991

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2011 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Yay! I managed to scrounge up some money in my bank account towards purchasing this on iTunes (finally!). Digging what I hear so far, though I'm only two tracks in. Haha! "Road to Antarctica" was great and I loved the callback to Morricone's pulsing theme from the original Carpenter classic.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2011 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Another Beltrami's action filler. Stay away.

I'm 8 tracks in... eh, not really. There's action material, but I'd hardly call it "filler" because it grows organically through the quieter, more atmosphere-driven music. And all of the action music thus far has an incredible sense of rhythm and urgency to it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2011 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Reviews are starting to pop up on Metacritic:

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-thing/critic-reviews

Here's a lukewarm review by Roger Ebert;

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111012/REVIEWS/111019991

Greg Espinoza


I don't really bother with reading reviews until after I've seen a movie but a quick glance at the Metacritic collection of positive reviews and I like what I'm reading in the quick blurbs.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2011 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Another Beltrami's action filler. Stay away.

I'm 8 tracks in... eh, not really. There's action material, but I'd hardly call it "filler" because it grows organically through the quieter, more atmosphere-driven music. And all of the action music thus far has an incredible sense of rhythm and urgency to it.


I absolutely agree that it's not simply filler...the music evolves and grows in power and ferocity in synchronicity with the thing's domination in the film. There is a bit of filler in the score, as to be expected, but overall the score does have a striking coherence and interesting evolution that is entertaining to hear unfold. The action music always feels like an explosion of fury and terror that has been building up and boiling over in the suspenseful buildup score, so that when the orchestra really lets it rip and becomes significantly bombastic, it's like the thing unleashing its horror on the other characters.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2011 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

Will Ed Nassour ever chime in on this one?

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2011 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

The new THE THING is getting some very nasty reviews at Rotten Tomatoes.
But as far as YOR remember, Carpenter's THE THING also was bashed by critics at its release, yes?

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2011 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

The new THE THING is getting some very nasty reviews at Rotten Tomatoes.
But as far as YOR remember, Carpenter's THE THING also was bashed by critics at its release, yes?


Indeed, but there a lot more critics these days so you can rest assured that if a film is universally derided then it's a pretty bad film.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2011 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Indeed, but sometimes most critics are dead wrong about movies too.
So, ONE must judge for himself always...

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2011 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Indeed, but sometimes most critics are dead wrong about movies too.
So, ONE must judge for himself always...


I also judge for myself........once the movie is available to cheaply rent.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2011 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

YOR likes to see monster movies at the theaters!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2011 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Jon Lewis   (Member)

Indeed, but there a lot more critics these days so you can rest assured that if a film is universally derided then it's a pretty bad film.

Yes and no... there's a certain amount of herd mentality involved with online criticism... once the word goes around that a new film is awful, commentators can be hesitant to stick their neck out if they disagree.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2011 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Indeed, but there a lot more critics these days so you can rest assured that if a film is universally derided then it's a pretty bad film.

Yes and no... there's a certain amount of herd mentality involved with online criticism... once the word goes around that a new film is awful, commentators can be hesitant to stick their neck out if they disagree.


Indeed! Jon is quite right!

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2011 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

Wow and double Wow!
Finally a new 90% atonal score (maybe 87%...). There's also some hint of Morricone's theme and it's even a bit superior listening than MIMIC. Meet And Greet, Autopsy, Female Persuasion, etc. are all incredible tracks.

ILTS (= I love this score) !!!

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2011 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Great to see the love for the score. Also great to see Marco's score make the cover of FSM this month! Great!

Cue Chandler Bing: "Could this year be any better for Beltrami?"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2011 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

I saw the film Friday night with a few of my buddies, and we all loved it! Most of us had seen the 1982 Carpenter film as well. The music was absolutely PERFECT in the film. CGI aside, the film felt like it could have easily been made in the 80s or 90s. Re-watching the Kurt Russell version on Netflix afterwards, I found myself wishing they could incorporate some of Beltrami's music into it to ramp up the tension even more.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2011 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Great review of the score at Jonathan Broxton's website:

http://moviemusicuk.us/

 
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