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 Posted:   Nov 20, 2012 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Wow, everyone keeps talking about how restrained and subtle this score is. It certainly doesn't feel that way to me. Thoughtful, sure, but this is a grand and powerful work. Not bombastic, but certainly not restrained!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2013 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

While I found the film terribly worthy and deathly dull, I have been enjoying the CD like no other these past few months.
I know very little of the CD's 55 minutes ended up in the finished film, but as put together by Williams, it makes for a fantastic stand-alone listen.
I love hearing traces of The Reivers & Missouri Breaks in his two 'southern fried' cues, which also help lighten and break-up the sombre mood of the whole disc. I even enjoy the civil war tune and song from the period.
There are quite a number of themes in the score and I'm not sure which one could be labelled the main theme, as each gets a fair amount of play throughout. My personal fave is the big crescendo one that got belted out during the trailer (that's where I fell in love with it - the one that's 4 notes, followed by 4 similar notes).
While I couldn't care less if it wins the Oscar or not, it gets my vote as another tremendous John Williams score!
LONG LIVE THE KING! smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2013 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

What would have been "not predictable" here? If Williams had scored it all for an electric guitar, panflute, and a Mongolian throat-singer?

Mr. Mullin wins quote of the week, and I had to try his suggestion:

http://soundcloud.com/contactflashfilms/predictable

I thought "Lincoln" was scored perfectly, and beautifully. I loved the way the score took a backseat to the dialogue, which was the heart of the drama here, and they often played long scenes with nothing more than characters speaking accompanied by an off-camera clock, or by Lincoln's pocket-watch, which was like his ticking conscience. When the score came in, it had that much more resonance.


I agree with Dogplant but have to admit, he is a great friend of mine.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2013 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

I can't believe I still haven't picked this up yet.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2013 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Lincoln is the best score of the year for me.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2013 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

What are we supposed to be looking at/for in that soundcloud link?

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2013 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Preston, that was my interpretation of John Mullin's November 15 comment, when somebody observed that the "Lincoln" score was predictable. John said:

What would have been "not predictable" here? If Williams had scored it all for an electric guitar, panflute, and a Mongolian throat-singer?

Pardon my other Soundcloud nonsense, which seems to auto play after that clip.

And the rubber ducky was my idea.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2013 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

I am just shocked to hear people here say that things like SKYFALL and LIFE OF PI are better scores than LINCOLN. I can't believe it.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2013 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

I am just shocked to hear people here say that things like SKYFALL and LIFE OF PI are better scores than LINCOLN. I can't believe it.

Alex


They're just opinions. Both Skyfall and Life of Pi have things to recommend them. I personally prefer Lincoln as a listening experience on disc but admit that Life of Pi is probably the greater score in context.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2016 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Jaws thru E.T. will always be my favorite period for Williams. But after listening to "BFG" and generally liking it I decided to give "Lincoln" a try on Spotify. It's a really good score for a drama based film. I was concerned it would be overly sappy, (and yes to Americana) which Spielberg can inflict on Williams at times with his filming style. While laid back, it's beautifully rich thematically speaking.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 5:22 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I think this score may be my favourite JW soundtrack of the new millennium.
It's certainly in the Top 5 category.
I've rarely met a John Williams score I didn't get along with and this one and me are besties!

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   thx99   (Member)

For anyone interested, the Lincoln FYC is up for sale on eBay for a reasonable amount (US$14 plus shipping).

Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lincoln-2012-Dreamworks-CD-For-Your-Consideration-FYC-Best-Original-Score/262755854904

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

For anyone interested, the Lincoln FYC is up for sale on eBay for a reasonable amount (US$14 plus shipping).

Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lincoln-2012-Dreamworks-CD-For-Your-Consideration-FYC-Best-Original-Score/262755854904



Nice. Worth it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I've read that Williams composed around 90 minutes of music for the film, for use here, there or otherwise.
There's just under 1 hour on the CD, but I remember there being very little in the film.
Does anyone know how much music score there is actually IN THE FILM?

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Yes, the FYC album is 40 minutes long and represents pretty much all the music in heard in the film (4M24, 5M38, and the cue for Lincoln trying to get Mr. Hutton to vote for the amendment aren't included)

The OST album is almost a concept album of the thematic ideas used in the film score; Most of the album is album-only concert arrangements and extensions/alternates, and not film cues

These two resources should answer all your questions:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRfk7QKxdbLhKwrZpcPyPv6_B4gHfGY6df75mxpGlT9_Fi8tmJ9EGRohFAceJ65SeY646_SYAP9TYsA/pubhtml

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/22296-score-lincoln-album-review-complete-score-analysis-john-williams/

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I've read that Williams composed around 90 minutes of music for the film, for use here, there or otherwise.
There's just under 1 hour on the CD, but I remember there being very little in the film.
Does anyone know how much music score there is actually IN THE FILM?


Just get the FYC, assssssssssss

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Thanks Jason.
Pi$$ Off Shaun.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Nearly six years later, this stands for me as one of JW's most beautiful scores, and without a doubt one of his great later period compositions. It is alternately rich and majestic, playful and full of color, but mature and introspective. It is a powerful and yet understated piece of film composing, and it resonates on other levels, philosophical and thoughtful, elegant and wise. With Malice Toward None.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Thanks Jason.
Pi$$ Off Shaun.


Hahaha I love this score but the one theme always reminds me of A Bug's Life (because it's Newman, it's likely that it's Copland and I just don't know enough). Also, the one track that sounds like a Walt Disney Home Video rewrite of The Patriot is just awful. Luckily I'm given the tools to remove it!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2018 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   JohnnyRoastbeef   (Member)

Yes, the FYC album is 40 minutes long and represents pretty much all the music in heard in the film (4M24, 5M38, and the cue for Lincoln trying to get Mr. Hutton to vote for the amendment aren't included)

The OST album is almost a concept album of the thematic ideas used in the film score; Most of the album is album-only concert arrangements and extensions/alternates, and not film cues

These two resources should answer all your questions:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRfk7QKxdbLhKwrZpcPyPv6_B4gHfGY6df75mxpGlT9_Fi8tmJ9EGRohFAceJ65SeY646_SYAP9TYsA/pubhtml

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/22296-score-lincoln-album-review-complete-score-analysis-john-williams/


Is the FYC a CDR or pressed CD?

 
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