There were two "Producer" sessions, a pre-score date (for the cast "Hamlet" sequences) and an underscore session, both conducted by Mort Stevens:
6/17/66: Pre-score (recorded with Fred Steiner "Gunsmoke" score, "The Mission") 9/13/66 Underscore (score composed by Stevens and Don Ray recorded with Wild Wild West and IAT partial scores).
I can't seem to locate the pre-score among the tapes - only recordings from June 7, 1966. It's possible that they are simply mislabeled in the collection, as I have found this to be the case before. I don't suppose you know what log number or reel number they are?
Regardless, thanks so much!
This is probably a long shot, but maybe the GI tracks are included with the Steiner Gunsmoke tapes.
I am impressed with the research you two are doing on the Gilligan's Island soundtracks. You know your stuff. I'm also having trouble believing that the Universities in Wyoming have all this material that so few people know about.
Well, I visited a few years before the pandemic. So I couldn't say if there's been a change in visitor policy. I will tell you that it's the only place I could find out anything about Nelson Riddle's Batman scores (no scores, but several pages of Sam Horta's music editor notes), which I found in boxes of the William Dozier Collection). Also, I was looking to view scores, not sample session recordings. Also was interesting was finding Gerry Fried's S1 GI music, which, surprisingly, is not included in the UCLA Collection.
Unlike UCLA, AHC staff put out as many boxes as I requested (sometimes as many as seven or eight). I hope to make it back there sometime as for a composer/arranger, at least for me, the experience of visiting is akin to a child spending a week in Hamleys or F.A.O. Schwartz. Days spent there go way too fast for me. Could easily spend 18-20 hours a day there (instead of office hours).
I wish collections like this were in my city. I'd go there once a while and just start going through boxes and cataloging the full contents and making notes to the staff about improperly located materials and where they need to go.
I wish collections like this were in my city. I'd go there once a while and just start going through boxes and cataloging the full contents and making notes to the staff about improperly located materials and where they need to go.
Yeah, it's just so out of the way (about an hour's flight from Denver). They do have a rodeo venue there and great places to get breakfast. Other than this, there's not much to do there. I went as a side trip, an extended stopover on my way to visit friends in Vancouver. I remember the first thing I wanted to look at was Irving Szathmary's Get Smart scores...and they're all there (as are the sketches and, believe it or not, all of the parts).
I would love anything…. Maybe a 2CD set of collected highlights, perhaps, of this live action cartoon music.
Me too. Gilligan's Island is my last remaining Grail. I'd love all the music by Williams, Comstock, Ray, and Fried, from all three seasons. 2CDs ought to do it.
I would love anything…. Maybe a 2CD set of collected highlights, perhaps, of this live action cartoon music.
Me too. Gilligan's Island is my last remaining Grail. I'd love all the music by Williams, Comstock, Ray, and Fried, from all three seasons. 2CDs ought to do it.
Well, Fried, over S2,3, scored a dozen or more complete episodes (as well as some partials). Averaging 8-10 minutes per show (some scores, such as "Ring Around Gilligan," running about 13 minutes). So, let's say 2 hours. It would then require one and a half disks just for these cues. Don Ray/Mort Stevens cues would (easily) take up its own disk, JW's Travels pilot, LM's President Gilligan and the Comstock cues would take up a little over half a disk, add in Fried's S1 scores (his first two among the most lengthy he composed for the show) and the different versions of the MT/ET and that's another full disk.
Three disks would get a lot of it, make a nice representation of music composed for the series, but probably not everything (and not including the CBS Library stuff tracked in from Perry Mason, Gunsmoke, Radio Library, etc. in S1).
FYI: The only Fried-credited ep music I couldn't find (at either UCLA or AHC) is for S1's "X Mark's The Spot." Watching the show recently, have come to the conclusion that it may be a tracked show, the rocket music, probably coming from the CBS Library (though Fried might have composed as a partial). The military music (heard in the non island sequences) is, I think, from Murray's score for "President Gilligan." Have since amended/corrected my earlier post.
I would love anything…. Maybe a 2CD set of collected highlights, perhaps, of this live action cartoon music.
Me too. Gilligan's Island is my last remaining Grail. I'd love all the music by Williams, Comstock, Ray, and Fried, from all three seasons. 2CDs ought to do it.
Well, Fried, over S2,3, scored a dozen or more complete episodes (as well as some partials). Averaging 8-10 minutes per show (some scores, such as "Ring Around Gilligan," running about 13 minutes). So, let's say 2 hours. It would then require one and a half disks just for these cues. Don Ray/Mort Stevens cues would (easily) take up its own disk, JW's Travels pilot, LM's President Gilligan and the Comstock cues would take up a little over half a disk, add in Fried's S1 scores (his first two among the most lengthy he composed for the show) and the different versions of the MT/ET and that's another full disk.
Three disks would get a lot of it, make a nice representation of music composed for the series, but probably not everything (and not including the CBS Library stuff tracked in from Perry Mason, Gunsmoke, Radio Library, etc. in S1).
FYI: The only Fried-credited ep music I couldn't find (at either UCLA or AHC) is for S1's "X Mark's The Spot." Watching the show recently, have come to the conclusion that it may be a tracked show, the rocket music, probably coming from the CBS Library (though Fried might have composed as a partial). The military music (heard in the non island sequences) is, I think, from Murray's score for "President Gilligan." Have since amended/corrected my earlier post.
I just love the knowledge and detail that you bring to this! Alright then, 3 discs. 4, maybe, if we want every last scrap (which I would, actually).
I always wondered, how lost can you be on a three hour tour??? Its not like you would've wretched on an isolated island a thousand miles from mainland.
It's amazing that the Gilligan's Island television series gave us so many profound things like this to ponder and wonder about - a true gift for the mind.
I dunno how much effort was put into the scripts or filming, but the music was sweated over. Here's a little xmas treat, which I'll have to delete shortly.
I dunno how much effort was put into the scripts or filming, but the music was sweated over. Here's a little xmas treat, which I'll have to delete shortly.
Thanks very much for posting. This sounds like cues from S3’s “Gilligan VS Gilligan” (where Gilligan meets up with his “secret agent double”). Cool to hear Gerry Fried making adjustments to both instrumentation and dynamics. Interestingly, this is the second GI score he recorded that day (21 July, 1966) as earlier he recorded “Up at Bat” (vampire/Dracula meets Sherlock Holmes-like character in dream sequence).
Thanks very much for posting. This sounds like cues from S3’s “Gilligan VS Gilligan” (where Gilligan meets up with his “secret agent double”). Cool to hear Gerry Fried making adjustments to both instrumentation and dynamics. Interestingly, this is the second GI score he recorded that day (21 July, 1966) as earlier he recorded “Up at Bat” (vampire/Dracula meets Sherlock Holmes-like character in dream sequence).
I dunno how much effort was put into the scripts or filming, but the music was sweated over. Here's a little xmas treat, which I'll have to delete shortly.
Thanks very much for posting. This sounds like cues from S3’s “Gilligan VS Gilligan” (where Gilligan meets up with his “secret agent double”). Cool to hear Gerry Fried making adjustments to both instrumentation and dynamics. Interestingly, this is the second GI score he recorded that day (21 July, 1966) as earlier he recorded “Up at Bat” (vampire/Dracula meets Sherlock Holmes-like character in dream sequence).
My god! This confirms that the tapes exist!! Can someone PLEASE do a proper mastering of this material for a proper and definitive release?!?!? PLEASE!!!!!
My god! This confirms that the tapes exist!! Can someone PLEASE do a proper mastering of this material for a proper and definitive release?!?!? PLEASE!!!!!
Their existence was never in doubt. Their location has been known for years, as mentioned at the start of this thread and elsewhere on FSM. There's several GI reels, but probably not the complete series. And as mentioned earlier, it sounds like copyright might be an issue. And there's always the question of profitability to market them.
My god! This confirms that the tapes exist!! Can someone PLEASE do a proper mastering of this material for a proper and definitive release?!?!? PLEASE!!!!!
Their existence was never in doubt. Their location has been known for years, as mentioned at the start of this thread and elsewhere on FSM. There's several GI reels, but probably not the complete series. And as mentioned earlier, it sounds like copyright might be an issue. And there's always the question of profitability to market them.
My god! This confirms that the tapes exist!! Can someone PLEASE do a proper mastering of this material for a proper and definitive release?!?!? PLEASE!!!!!
Their existence was never in doubt. Their location has been known for years, as mentioned at the start of this thread and elsewhere on FSM. There's several GI reels, but probably not the complete series. And as mentioned earlier, it sounds like copyright might be an issue. And there's always the question of profitability to market them.
Posting those youtube links as part of discussion on original tapes implies they are original when they are really edits from the show audio (ie sound effects).
My god! This confirms that the tapes exist!! Can someone PLEASE do a proper mastering of this material for a proper and definitive release?!?!? PLEASE!!!!!
Their existence was never in doubt. Their location has been known for years, as mentioned at the start of this thread and elsewhere on FSM. There's several GI reels, but probably not the complete series. And as mentioned earlier, it sounds like copyright might be an issue. And there's always the question of profitability to market them.
