I would love anything…. Maybe a 2CD set of collected highlights, perhaps, of this live action cartoon music.
Me too. Gilligan's Island is my last remaining Grail. I'd love all the music by Williams, Comstock, Ray, and Fried, from all three seasons. 2CDs ought to do it.
Well, Fried, over S2,3, scored a dozen or more complete episodes (as well as some partials). Averaging 8-10 minutes per show (some scores, such as "Ring Around Gilligan," running about 13 minutes). So, let's say 2 hours. It would then require one and a half disks just for these cues. Don Ray/Mort Stevens cues would (easily) take up its own disk, JW's Travels pilot, LM's President Gilligan and the Comstock cues would take up a little over half a disk, add in Fried's S1 scores (his first two among the most lengthy he composed for the show) and the different versions of the MT/ET and that's another full disk.
Three disks would get a lot of it, make a nice representation of music composed for the series, but probably not everything (and not including the CBS Library stuff tracked in from Perry Mason, Gunsmoke, Radio Library, etc. in S1).
FYI: The only Fried-credited ep music I couldn't find (at either UCLA or AHC) is for S1's "X Mark's The Spot." Watching the show recently, have come to the conclusion that it may be a tracked show, the rocket music, probably coming from the CBS Library (though Fried might have composed as a partial). The military music (heard in the non island sequences) is, I think, from Murray's score for "President Gilligan." Have since amended/corrected my earlier post.
I just love the knowledge and detail that you bring to this! Alright then, 3 discs. 4, maybe, if we want every last scrap (which I would, actually).
I always wondered, how lost can you be on a three hour tour??? Its not like you would've wretched on an isolated island a thousand miles from mainland.
It's amazing that the Gilligan's Island television series gave us so many profound things like this to ponder and wonder about - a true gift for the mind.
I dunno how much effort was put into the scripts or filming, but the music was sweated over. Here's a little xmas treat, which I'll have to delete shortly.
Thanks very much for posting. This sounds like cues from S3’s “Gilligan VS Gilligan” (where Gilligan meets up with his “secret agent double”). Cool to hear Gerry Fried making adjustments to both instrumentation and dynamics. Interestingly, this is the second GI score he recorded that day (21 July, 1966) as earlier he recorded “Up at Bat” (vampire/Dracula meets Sherlock Holmes-like character in dream sequence).
I dunno how much effort was put into the scripts or filming, but the music was sweated over. Here's a little xmas treat, which I'll have to delete shortly.
Thanks very much for posting. This sounds like cues from S3’s “Gilligan VS Gilligan” (where Gilligan meets up with his “secret agent double”). Cool to hear Gerry Fried making adjustments to both instrumentation and dynamics. Interestingly, this is the second GI score he recorded that day (21 July, 1966) as earlier he recorded “Up at Bat” (vampire/Dracula meets Sherlock Holmes-like character in dream sequence).
My god! This confirms that the tapes exist!! Can someone PLEASE do a proper mastering of this material for a proper and definitive release?!?!? PLEASE!!!!!
My god! This confirms that the tapes exist!! Can someone PLEASE do a proper mastering of this material for a proper and definitive release?!?!? PLEASE!!!!!
Their existence was never in doubt. Their location has been known for years, as mentioned at the start of this thread and elsewhere on FSM. There's several GI reels, but probably not the complete series. And as mentioned earlier, it sounds like copyright might be an issue. And there's always the question of profitability to market them.
My god! This confirms that the tapes exist!! Can someone PLEASE do a proper mastering of this material for a proper and definitive release?!?!? PLEASE!!!!!
Their existence was never in doubt. Their location has been known for years, as mentioned at the start of this thread and elsewhere on FSM. There's several GI reels, but probably not the complete series. And as mentioned earlier, it sounds like copyright might be an issue. And there's always the question of profitability to market them.
So Sorry, My Island Now (Gerry Fried's first score for series) - 12/23/64 Nyet, Nyet - 11/1/65 (recorded with Wild Wild West partial and GI library cues, the latter mostly by Don Ray). Opening cue reads 'Opening' (J. Williams) but arranged by Fried and for this episode.
It's About Time recording dates (ones I have):
Composed by Gerald Fried (unless otherwise indicated):
The Initiation, The Rainmakers - 8/16/66 The Copper Capper, Tailor Made Hero - 8/23/66 Courtship of Miles Gronk (Don Ray, Joel Davis*) - 9/6/66 Mark Your Ballots (Don Ray) - 9/13/66 The Champ (Ray) - 9/19/66 partial (p) Androcles and Clon (Don Ray, Mort Stevens) - 10/20/66 p Love Me, Love My Gnook (Fried) -11/9/66 Shad, Rock & Other Tortures (Stevens) - 1/3/67 Cave Family Swingers (Ray) - 1/16/67 p (rec. with GI Slave Girl, also DR)
* - Both CBS music staff
On occasion, episode titles changed between post production and broadcast.
Anyway, that's what I have.
Boughtfan - Regarding IAT episode, "The Cave Family Swingers", do you have any infomation about when the prescores were recorded for that episode (i.e. the "dinosaur stew" instrumental and overdub). Were they on 1/16/67 or another date? Also, there is a kind of Scottish jig number at the end of that show - do you know if that was tracked from a library cue/other production or if it was recorded specifically for that episode.
So Sorry, My Island Now (Gerry Fried's first score for series) - 12/23/64 Nyet, Nyet - 11/1/65 (recorded with Wild Wild West partial and GI library cues, the latter mostly by Don Ray). Opening cue reads 'Opening' (J. Williams) but arranged by Fried and for this episode.
It's About Time recording dates (ones I have):
Composed by Gerald Fried (unless otherwise indicated):
The Initiation, The Rainmakers - 8/16/66 The Copper Capper, Tailor Made Hero - 8/23/66 Courtship of Miles Gronk (Don Ray, Joel Davis*) - 9/6/66 Mark Your Ballots (Don Ray) - 9/13/66 The Champ (Ray) - 9/19/66 partial (p) Androcles and Clon (Don Ray, Mort Stevens) - 10/20/66 p Love Me, Love My Gnook (Fried) -11/9/66 Shad, Rock & Other Tortures (Stevens) - 1/3/67 Cave Family Swingers (Ray) - 1/16/67 p (rec. with GI Slave Girl, also DR)
* - Both CBS music staff
On occasion, episode titles changed between post production and broadcast.
Anyway, that's what I have.
Boughtfan - Regarding IAT episode, "The Cave Family Swingers", do you have any infomation about when the prescores were recorded for that episode (i.e. the "dinosaur stew" instrumental and overdub). Were they on 1/16/67 or another date? Also, there is a kind of Scottish jig number at the end of that show - do you know if that was tracked from a library cue/other production or if it was recorded specifically for that episode.
TVS -
The "Swingers" session also included cues for two GI shows, The Second Ginger Grant and Slave Girl and included only three players: drums (John W's brother Jerry), bass and guitar. Session was three and three-quarter hours (9:00 - 12:45), Don Ray is credited as orchestrator (an indication he composed the cues).
That's all I have on it. I'll look at the episode, try to determine if the cues mentioned were written for GI or tracked from CBS Library (the latter being rare once Mort Stevens took over from Herschel Burke Gilbert).*
* - I recall only one instance where an S1 GI cue was tracked into an S2 show. S3, as I remember, doesn't contain even a single S2 cue (though there are some tracked IAT cues in late season GI shows, both series ending production about the same time in 1967).
My god! This confirms that the tapes exist!! Can someone PLEASE do a proper mastering of this material for a proper and definitive release?!?!? PLEASE!!!!!
Their existence was never in doubt. Their location has been known for years, as mentioned at the start of this thread and elsewhere on FSM. There's several GI reels, but probably not the complete series. And as mentioned earlier, it sounds like copyright might be an issue. And there's always the question of profitability to market them.
Posting those youtube links as part of discussion on original tapes implies they are original when they are really edits from the show audio (ie sound effects).
Since we don t have (and maybe we will never have) the original i posted the link to enjoy what is possible to hear.
So Sorry, My Island Now (Gerry Fried's first score for series) - 12/23/64 Nyet, Nyet - 11/1/65 (recorded with Wild Wild West partial and GI library cues, the latter mostly by Don Ray). Opening cue reads 'Opening' (J. Williams) but arranged by Fried and for this episode.
It's About Time recording dates (ones I have):
Composed by Gerald Fried (unless otherwise indicated):
The Initiation, The Rainmakers - 8/16/66 The Copper Capper, Tailor Made Hero - 8/23/66 Courtship of Miles Gronk (Don Ray, Joel Davis*) - 9/6/66 Mark Your Ballots (Don Ray) - 9/13/66 The Champ (Ray) - 9/19/66 partial (p) Androcles and Clon (Don Ray, Mort Stevens) - 10/20/66 p Love Me, Love My Gnook (Fried) -11/9/66 Shad, Rock & Other Tortures (Stevens) - 1/3/67 Cave Family Swingers (Ray) - 1/16/67 p (rec. with GI Slave Girl, also DR)
* - Both CBS music staff
On occasion, episode titles changed between post production and broadcast.
Anyway, that's what I have.
Boughtfan - Regarding IAT episode, "The Cave Family Swingers", do you have any infomation about when the prescores were recorded for that episode (i.e. the "dinosaur stew" instrumental and overdub). Were they on 1/16/67 or another date? Also, there is a kind of Scottish jig number at the end of that show - do you know if that was tracked from a library cue/other production or if it was recorded specifically for that episode.
TVS -
The "Swingers" session also included cues for two GI shows, The Second Ginger Grant and Slave Girl and included only three players: drums (John W's brother Jerry), bass and guitar. Session was three and three-quarter hours (9:00 - 12:45), Don Ray is credited as orchestrator (an indication he composed the cues).
That's all I have on it. I'll look at the episode, try to determine if the cues mentioned were written for GI or tracked from CBS Library (the latter being rare once Mort Stevens took over from Herschel Burke Gilbert).*
* - I recall only one instance where an S1 GI cue was tracked into an S2 show. S3, as I remember, doesn't contain even a single S2 cue (though there are some tracked IAT cues in late season GI shows, both series ending production about the same time in 1967).
I'm happily lapping up every detail in this entire thread! Gilligan's Island is and always has been my favourite TV show, and its music is such a part of me I feel like it flows through my very veins. I think a complete soundtrack release of all three seasons might be my last remaining grail.
I'm happily lapping up every detail in this entire thread! Gilligan's Island is and always has been my favourite TV show, and its music is such a part of me I feel like it flows through my very veins. I think a complete soundtrack release of all three seasons might be my last remaining grail.
I am too! It's so fascinating to learn the details that went into recording the iconic music used in the series. A complete soundtrack release with good linear notes would be fantastic - I think there is certainly enough demand for it. We can always hope...
Posting those youtube links as part of discussion on original tapes implies they are original when they are really edits from the show audio (ie sound effects).
Since we don t have (and maybe we will never have) the original i posted the link to enjoy what is possible to hear.
I don't care what links you post on FSM, but there's no need to confuse them with text about original music. Use the blue "Post Reply" button at the bottom of the webpage to post without quoting anyone.
I understand, i never used the blue button, i thought it was for another subject, sorry.
Posting those youtube links as part of discussion on original tapes implies they are original when they are really edits from the show audio (ie sound effects).
Since we don t have (and maybe we will never have) the original i posted the link to enjoy what is possible to hear.
I don't care what links you post on FSM, but there's no need to confuse them with text about original music. Use the blue "Post Reply" button at the bottom of the webpage to post without quoting anyone.
Gee whiz give Names a break, he was only contributing to the discussion. The thread title itself is click-bait enough on its own.
So Sorry, My Island Now (Gerry Fried's first score for series) - 12/23/64 Nyet, Nyet - 11/1/65 (recorded with Wild Wild West partial and GI library cues, the latter mostly by Don Ray). Opening cue reads 'Opening' (J. Williams) but arranged by Fried and for this episode.
Boughtfan, I'm in need of your assistance once again. Could you help me with the recording dates for the following if you have them:
Gilligan's Mother In Law (S2) Voodoo (S3) Pass The Vegetables Please (S3)
Also, were there any recording sessions that you know of that were purely for recording library cues for GI or were they always just recorded at the end of other scores?
So Sorry, My Island Now (Gerry Fried's first score for series) - 12/23/64 Nyet, Nyet - 11/1/65 (recorded with Wild Wild West partial and GI library cues, the latter mostly by Don Ray). Opening cue reads 'Opening' (J. Williams) but arranged by Fried and for this episode.
Boughtfan, I'm in need of your assistance once again. Could you help me with the recording dates for the following if you have them:
Gilligan's Mother In Law (S2) Voodoo (S3) Pass The Vegetables Please (S3)
Also, were there any recording sessions that you know of that were purely for recording library cues for GI or were they always just recorded at the end of other scores?
Thanks as always for all your help!
TVS -
I’m away, so don’t have my session reports at hand. However, I can tell you that Fried’s score for Gilligan’s Mother in Law was recorded 13 August, 1965, the same day Mort Stevens conducted the S2 Titles session (revised arrangement by Ian Freebairn-Smith). I believe Voodoo/Hair Today were recorded 7 June, 1966, Pass the Vegetables/There’s A Will a few weeks later but before Gilligan VS Gilligan/Up at Bat, Fried’s penultimate GI session (Ring Around Gilligan, recorded early September 1966 with Don Ray’s Man with a Net, was Fried’s final complete score for the series).
In my research I know of no GI Library session taking place (either conducted by Herschel Gilbert or Mort Stevens), those cues almost always recorded near the end of an hour-long drama session (WWW, Gunsmoke), at least during the Stevens years.
It would be nice to have a “Gilligan’s island” soundtrack collection, and though comedy is a difficult genre to score, the scores for the series proved how it could be expertly handled.
Boughtfan - Regarding IAT episode, "The Cave Family Swingers", do you have any infomation about when the prescores were recorded for that episode (i.e. the "dinosaur stew" instrumental and overdub). Were they on 1/16/67 or another date? Also, there is a kind of Scottish jig number at the end of that show - do you know if that was tracked from a library cue/other production or if it was recorded specifically for that episode.
TVS -
The "Swingers" session also included cues for two GI shows, The Second Ginger Grant and Slave Girl and included only three players: drums (John W's brother Jerry), bass and guitar. Session was three and three-quarter hours (9:00 - 12:45), Don Ray is credited as orchestrator (an indication he composed the cues).
That's all I have on it. I'll look at the episode, try to determine if the cues mentioned were written for GI or tracked from CBS Library (the latter being rare once Mort Stevens took over from Herschel Burke Gilbert).*
* - I recall only one instance where an S1 GI cue was tracked into an S2 show. S3, as I remember, doesn't contain even a single S2 cue (though there are some tracked IAT cues in late season GI shows, both series ending production about the same time in 1967).
Hi Boughtfan, I managed to get a copy of the IAT tape recorded on 1/16/67. It featured a lot of the underscores for Cave Family Swingers but not the underscore for the "World Famous Ballet" segment (the cue used towards the end of the episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27SLYLui2RQ at 21:40). According to my notes, the episode was filmed in December 1966/ January 1967 so I imagine it was recorded sometime between those two months. Do you have any additional information or even an idea of possible sessions it might have been recorded at? I don't expect you to, but I thought I would ask just in case.
Also, regarding the Gilligan Island cues, do you know if individual cues were ever given titles or simply just a cue number (i.e. GIL 203, GIL 204, etc)?
