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 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The new movie has gotten much better feedback and is doing good business, so it's no wonder they're moving forward.

That's debatable. I've also read very good arguments why the 98 version was better.


Feel free to summarize them here. That movie annoyed the hell out of me for being Jurassic Park 33-1/3. The baby zillas sequence was beyond lame. Matthew Broderick was useless. The effects were decent for the time, but the whole "monster is a female, she laid eggs" was so typical of what Hollywood throws against the wall to see what will stick. The new movie is respectful of G-canon, and the '98 movie would have been fine if they'd pretended it was a remake of Dinosaurus or something.


I'm not a fan of the 98 version, but I do agree with this persons assessments.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831387/board/thread/230068853

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I found 98 very entertaining, and the effects pretty persuasive.Is it absurd, of course it is. But the advantage of 98 is that it is a bit more aware of the absurdity. This more recent one is trying to carry off something more serious.

Say what you will, I think that Emmerich makes some entertaining pictures.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Getting back to the original topic, of course it isn't a game changer. This is not to insult the film or the score, which I haven't seen or heard. But is anybody humming the Godzilla theme? Will they be playing a pop version of it on Top 40 radio? Is anybody in any way discussing the music? (Besides here, of course.) I think the answer is no.

In 1977, the score (not just the movie) to "Star Wars" was everywhere. The theme -- not just the Meco disco version, but the actual soundtrack recording -- was on the Billboard Top 100 Songs list! (Okay, it was 99. But still!) That's what makes a game changer. The public has no awareness of the score to "Godzilla," they couldn't hum it for you, hearing it out of context would mean nothing to them. It will never be a punchline on "The Simpsons."

So keep hoping, by all means. But no, it's no game changer.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

And with SchiffyM's response the life cycle of this thread is complete.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

But is anybody humming the Godzilla theme?

I like Desplat's main title a lot and yes, it does get stuck in my head. So there's your answer.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I found 98 very entertaining, and the effects pretty persuasive.Is it absurd, of course it is. But the advantage of 98 is that it is a bit more aware of the absurdity. This more recent one is trying to carry off something more serious.

Say what you will, I think that Emmerich makes some entertaining pictures.


How well has Independence Day aged for you?

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I'm not a fan of the 98 version, but I do agree with this persons assessments.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831387/board/thread/230068853


Scroll down to Krakendueler's second post. S/he saved me the trouble, haha. Picked every point apart with ease.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

But is anybody humming the Godzilla theme?

I like Desplat's main title a lot and yes, it does get stuck in my head. So there's your answer.

Oh, you meant Ifukube's? All G-fans love that theme and his music. He was a hell of a composer.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

But is anybody humming the Godzilla theme?

I like Desplat's main title a lot and yes, it does get stuck in my head. So there's your answer.


Okay, but it's not really what I meant. I was humming the theme to "Dave" all day yesterday, but I don't think people in general were.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

But is anybody humming the Godzilla theme?

I like Desplat's main title a lot and yes, it does get stuck in my head. So there's your answer.


Okay, but it's not really what I meant. I was humming the theme to "Dave" all day yesterday, but I don't think people in general were.


Are you talking about the general public or the select few who actually buy and listen to film scores?

In the case of the former, the answer to "Was anybody humming the theme to _____?" is "No" about 9.724163 times out of 10.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm not a fan of the 98 version, but I do agree with this persons assessments.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831387/board/thread/230068853


Scroll down to Krakendueler's second post. S/he saved me the trouble, haha. Picked every point apart with ease.


Nope, the arguments stand! There was a reason the 98 characters were in the film and doing what they were doing. Also the set ups and conflicts were a lot better. Also the Zilla chase at the end which lead onto the bridge was spectacular, dramatic and exciting. The climax in 2014 was dull, boring, undramatic, too short- oh wait Zilla had to take a power nap every 5 minutes.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I found 98 very entertaining, and the effects pretty persuasive.Is it absurd, of course it is. But the advantage of 98 is that it is a bit more aware of the absurdity. This more recent one is trying to carry off something more serious.

Say what you will, I think that Emmerich makes some entertaining pictures.


How well has Independence Day aged for you?


I will happily take the Roland Emmerich filmography and scores.

Independence Day versus Man of Steel
Godzilla 1998 versus Godzilla 2014

The Emmerich films and scores with them are easy winners.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Are you talking about the general public or the select few who actually buy and listen to film scores?

I meant that, for it to be a game changer as in the original post, it would have to have an impact outside our tiny circle. Again, I'm not in any way commenting on the score, which I haven't heard.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I found 98 very entertaining, and the effects pretty persuasive.Is it absurd, of course it is. But the advantage of 98 is that it is a bit more aware of the absurdity. This more recent one is trying to carry off something more serious.

Say what you will, I think that Emmerich makes some entertaining pictures.


How well has Independence Day aged for you?


I will happily take the Roland Emmerich filmography and scores.

Independence Day versus Man of Steel
Godzilla 1998 versus Godzilla 2014

The Emmerich films and scores with them are easy winners.


"Easy" according to who? You? HAHA! ID4 (the film – can't comment on the score as I don't give a crap about it) isn't aging well. It exhibits some very bad writing and acting. The only watchable parts are some of the battles in the air. ID4 is unintentionally campy and the FX can't prevent that.

'98 Zilla...well, I went into the theater with expectations of a good time, but the first major warning sign was the Taco Bell cup that showed some iguana-looking thing curled around a skyscraper. All I thought was "I don't know what that is...but it sure as fnck isn't Godzilla." The end of that movie was a relief: as in, I was relieved it was OVER. big grin

Do you have some beef with Man of Steel? Another one of those guys mad about Supes offing Zod?

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

...oh wait Zilla had to take a power nap every 5 minutes.


Made me laugh!

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I'm not a fan of the 98 version, but I do agree with this persons assessments.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831387/board/thread/230068853


Scroll down to Krakendueler's second post. S/he saved me the trouble, haha. Picked every point apart with ease.


Nope, the arguments stand! There was a reason the 98 characters were in the film and doing what they were doing. Also the set ups and conflicts were a lot better. Also the Zilla chase at the end which lead onto the bridge was spectacular, dramatic and exciting. The climax in 2014 was dull, boring, undramatic, too short- oh wait Zilla had to take a power nap every 5 minutes.


Nope, they don't! You'll believe what you want to, I guess, which is a running theme Octoberman likes to endorse.

The Zilla chase at the end of the movie was the only watchable part...but it's also because it was one of the few sequences in the movie with ANY tension at all. But it's also a lame death for Zilla.

And come on, you liked the stupid crap with the newly-hatched dinosaurlings chasing Ferris Bueller down the hall? That looked so bad onscreen.

So the 2014 climax with Godzilla vs. not one but two monsters was dull compared to Ferris Bueller running around NYC and "Zilla" inexplicably laying eggs in a climate unsuitable for a reptile nest? (Note that the MUTOs did not require any sort of environmental or atmospheric conditions for a nest, only radiation.)

Tell us how awesome Pirahnaconda was, man. big grin

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Double post.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm not a fan of the 98 version, but I do agree with this persons assessments.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831387/board/thread/230068853


Scroll down to Krakendueler's second post. S/he saved me the trouble, haha. Picked every point apart with ease.


Nope, the arguments stand! There was a reason the 98 characters were in the film and doing what they were doing. Also the set ups and conflicts were a lot better. Also the Zilla chase at the end which lead onto the bridge was spectacular, dramatic and exciting. The climax in 2014 was dull, boring, undramatic, too short- oh wait Zilla had to take a power nap every 5 minutes.


Nope, they don't! You'll believe what you want to, I guess, which is a running theme Octoberman likes to endorse.

The Zilla chase at the end of the movie was the only watchable part...but it's also because it was one of the few sequences in the movie with ANY tension at all. But it's also a lame death for Zilla.

And come on, you liked the stupid crap with the newly-hatched dinosaurlings chasing Ferris Bueller down the hall? That looked so bad onscreen.

So the 2014 climax with Godzilla vs. not one but two monsters was dull compared to Ferris Bueller running around NYC and "Zilla" inexplicably laying eggs in a climate unsuitable for a reptile nest? (Note that the MUTOs did not require any sort of environmental or atmospheric conditions for a nest, only radiation.)

Tell us how awesome Pirahnaconda was, man. big grin


I didn't say it wasn't dumb. But it WAS dumb fun.

Better than lazy @ss fatardo Zilla that can't muster enough energy to do anything for more than five minutes at a time. And when he was fighting, all he did was wave his arms around while standing in place like he ran into a hornets nest. LOL

The chase through the streets and onto the bridge in the 98 version was thrilling and for its time amazing SFX.

Oh and when the baby zillas started to trip over the gumballs? LMAO! But in a good way.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Get your Zillas straight! big grin Zilla is half as large as the real, new, and larger-than-ever Godzilla. Zilla's cigarette breath wouldn't singe Godzilla's tail, LOL!

No, not "LMAO in a good way." That was stupid sh!t. Entertainment for the masses...of asses. big grin

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Dropforge.

I strongly suggest that if you want the discussion, such as it is, to continue, you keep your impulse to take an insulting stance a little more controlled.

Otherwise the Constable has to come in here and that would kill the thread.

 
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