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 Posted:   May 12, 2016 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Does the 20th annv ed of Jurassic Park sound as good as the original album? No, but it doesn't sound bad.

It doesn't sound bad per se but it most definitely wasn't improved! The new mix is inferior to the original.

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2016 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

So we've concluded, after about five pages of posting, that the long-awaited Starship Troopers expansion might be brickwalled and might not be brickwalled, as with virtually every single other release that ever has been or ever will be in the storied history of commercial film music? Enlightening!

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2016 - 6:07 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

Does the 20th annv ed of Jurassic Park sound as good as the original album? No, but it doesn't sound bad.

It doesn't sound bad per se but it most definitely wasn't improved! The new mix is inferior to the original.

-Erik-


Admittedly and it's most unfortunate that this is the direction the industry is headed.

So we've concluded, after about five pages of posting, that the long-awaited Starship Troopers expansion might be brickwalled and might not be brickwalled, as with virtually every single other release that ever has been or ever will be in the storied history of commercial film music? Enlightening!

The way my account's set up, THIS post is the start of page 3. razz But you're right, it's not a very eventful thread, not in any positive sense. I'm still very much looking forward to this release though, so take that naysayers!

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2016 - 10:18 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Now would be a great time for somebody who works at Varese to chime in with: don't worry folks, the audio work is every bit as good as the original release...

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2016 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   edern   (Member)

I don't know if it was pointed by someone else in this thread, but I think that the track Klendathu Battle (CD 1, track 17) and its alternate version (CD 2, track 10) has never been heard anywhere, has it? This sequence in the movie has no score at all and I don't think it was included in the editorially made End Titles... I'm really looking forward to listening to this particular cue.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2016 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

There is a LOT of music I'm looking forward to hearing on this.

I revisited the OST recently, and while the cues that are there are fantastic, there is so much more here that my ears are craving. smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2016 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

Admittedly and it's most unfortunate that this is the direction the industry is headed.

Pop music has been doing this for a couple of decades now. There is zero use for this in orchestral recordings. The music is not played on the radio, and if people have a hard time hearing it on earbuds, they can wind up the volume a little bit. I'm not saying everything needs a Brainstorm level of dynamic range, but these aren't Justin Bieber tunes, either. There is a decent halfway point, and most of the film music labels have been good at respecting that.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2016 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Exactly, Jonathan. It makes absolutely zero sense to do this with film music, and yet here we are, Varese.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2016 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Hard to believe that even the inveterate whiners on this board are at it again with this particular title.

Let's get something straight. This score was recorded at Sony Studios with rigorous attention to quality. I know, I listened to the multi-channel score mix a zillion times on the deluxe DVD. Also, Varese may have put some of you off with the compromises they've had to make in their nearly-forty-year history, but this title won't have such issues. It's as Complete and Chronological as they get. If you've got serious complaints, take them to another thread after you've listened to the product and decided it's flawed beyond all entertainment value.

Seriously, I can't believe anyone would whine this much about as-yet-unreleased product that we know will be great. This score is the only non-Williams-or-Horner-or-Goldsmith sci-fi score that cracks the all-time top ten!

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2016 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Seriously, I can't believe anyone would whine this much about as-yet-unreleased product that we know will be great

While I appreciate your positivity, I am very interested if any "compromises" were made as this is the first club CD I've bought in years. Your logic that being in the top 10 means it will be mastered well is flawed. Return of the Jedi, anybody?

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2016 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   willymcnilly   (Member)

Here's hoping this release IS brickwalled. As I listen to most of my CDs in the car these days, I actually find brickwalled CDs with a minimal dynamic range to play far better than those with a large dynamic range. I cannot tolerate adjusting the music constantly and trying to figure out if there is anything even being played by the orchestra during the quiet passages. I remember the Ralph Vaughn Williams CDs being just awful for listening to in the car as I couldn't even tell that they were playing for long periods of time and then the orchestra is WAY to loud. I remember the Tadlow re-recordings also being criticized for this and yet I find they play wonderfully in my car. However on my HIFI system some nuance and dynamic range is obviously appreciated more.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2016 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Ugh... This thread...

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2016 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Here's hoping this release IS brickwalled. As I listen to most of my CDs in the car these days, I actually find brickwalled CDs with a minimal dynamic range to play far better

I agree about car listening. Would be nice and fairly straightforward for the CD to be one way and an optional download to be the other...

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2016 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Or even do it yourself, just make a rip of the CD, add some gain, and boom.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2016 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

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 Posted:   May 15, 2016 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Ugh... This thread...

Maybe we should start a new one.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2016 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Come on, this is the conversation.

Starship Troopers good, mastering problems at Varese bad, that's pretty much it.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Santa Adam   (Member)

Back when Die Hard 2 The Deluxe Edition was released I posted a comment about two titles I was hoping Varese would expand. Thanks Varese.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Santa Adam   (Member)

I'm also glad the cover artwork doesn't have those two horizontal slash/rips like the original release. I never did get that.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2016 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   FredGarvin   (Member)

Anyone received their copy yet?

 
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