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 Posted:   Dec 13, 2017 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)


  • The brief fight music in the opening (after the "Previously on" montage).
  • The woodwinds, strings and harp piece that transitions the class to Buffy visiting Angel.
  • The piano and trembling strings piece as Buffy roams the school halls/Giles researches.
  • The Scooby Gang planning what they are going to do, then more a couple of minutes later. Some plucked strings, triangle, wooden block, and snare drum. It's gets more mysterious as Willow interrogates Jonathan and others are snooping around (this is Willow's second interrogation and she's still sucks at it). It's a long cue, almost four minutes in length.
  • Angel fighting a demon from the opening of the episode. It continues with a little more interrogation music.
  • Angel coming to the rescue with a potion for Buffy and then some staccato brass and timpani with snare as we see Jonathan with a gun. More as the Scooby Gang hunts for Jonathan and Buffy races to get to him. If both the cues are on the LLLRs set, one day I am totally going to edit out the bit between them and make one dramatic cue (I'll find someplace to put that bit).
  • The fun material as Xander sneaks into the cafeteria room and then is chased by the lunch lady. There's some brief fight music at the end.

    Special Note: the season three score promo does not feature any score from this episode.

    Buffy: "What if he is right? I'm suddenly going to grow this demon part and we don't even know what it is; it could be claws, or scales," she sees Willow go wide-eyed, "What?"
    Willow: "Was it a boy demon?"

    Buffy: "God, Xander, is that all you think about?"
    Xander: "Actually ... bye!" runs away.


  • Fight music for Buffy and Angel fighting vampires at night.
  • The cue as a plane arrives. Also features a rare solo trumpet performance. Then the cue immediately after the commercial break, which would make a nice extension to the previous track.
  • A lightly playful cue as Xander walks around and spots Cordelia. Using some kind of shaker and a wooden block.
  • The piece as Angel, Buffy and Willow sneak into the building with the Mayor's office. More about a minute later, but revved up a little.
  • The music as Willow tries to escape. Also featuring more material like the stuff from the cue on the promo.
  • The piece as Willow tells off Faith.
  • The short little woodwind cue when Buffy pulls Faith's knife out of the wall.
  • Willow's speech about wanting to help people. Strings, woodwinds, and again a bass flute taking a solo stage. It keeps going as we see Cordelia working at her job and then as Buffy and Angel are hanging out at night talking. There's a short bit about two or three minutes before it as Willow comes over, that can lead into the beginning. It's a long cue at over three minutes.

    Special Notes: the season three score promo features only one cue from this episode.
    The cue on the promo is a little different in parts in the episode. The fight music around the end is weaker in the episode and loses the intense drive of the original; doesn't mean the alternate version is bad. It also uses a part from later in the episode.

    Oz: "The whole place is locked down."
    Xander: "Yeah, it gives me that comforting trapped feeling."

    Principle Snyder: "You ... all of you ... why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people?"

    "The Prom"

  • The opening cue as Buffy wakes up next to Angel. Another nice short bit when Joyce comes to visit Angel. I just really love this type of material from Beck.
  • The music for Giles' trying to comfort Buffy.
  • Buffy using herself as bait for the Hell hounds. There's a breif lull before it comes back. Features some congas.

    People are apparently so used to Buffy being the one who saves people -- though unspoken otherwise (until this episode) -- that when a guy comes out of the prom room with Buffy wrestling a Hell hound and she snaps it's neck killing it, he just asks where the bathroom is.

    There are four Hell hounds (four cages), yet Buffy only took out three and said she finished them).

    Anya: "Look, I know you find me attractive; I've seen you looking at my breasts."
    Xander: "Nothing personal, but when a guy does that it just means his eyes are open."

    "Graduation Day: Part 1"

    The two-part season finale.

  • Oz and Willow making out music. Also some strings and light piano stuff as Buffy is looking through some papers.
  • The short bit when Angel gets hits with an arrow. Always liked that bit.
  • The short bit as Buffy consoles Angel, then some soft strings and piano work for Willow and Oz post doing it.
  • The uneasy brass and woodwinds piece as Buffy attends to the poisoned Angel.
  • Montage music with the stock "eee yaaahhh" female vocals as Buffy prepares to go after Faith and Faith is training.

    Special Note: the Faith's End cue is actually an edit of two different scenes, cutting out a short low-key bit. The second half, inside the episode, is different but has the same ideas; prefer the promo edit, but the episode version is worth hearing (it's a little darker and edgier).

    I think the Mayor may be the best season-long villain of the series. And he's a ballsy villain, too; like that John Lithgow baddie from "Dexter", he actually shows up to where they are.

    The Mayor should have said his Commencement speech was going to be a "killer..."; a missed chance at a pun.

    Oz and Willow are so willing to hunt Faith down after Buffy said she might kill or, or at best bring her to Angel to get killed. Murder either way and they seem cheery about it.

    Oz -- perhaps the most underused regular on the series. He literally puttered out and went nowhere, then left. Even Amy had more going for her -- even when she was a rat. According to the BtVS wiki, he played a little larger role in the Whedon comics a little, but then he appears he puttered out again. He also, in the Whedon comics, had a baby with a woman in another country, who is also a werewolf.

    Oz: "Our lives are different from other people's."

    Xander: "Well, I'm sorry I give you barfy feelings."

    Mayor: "We don't knock during dark rituals?"

    "Graduation Day: Part 2"

  • The short bit as Willow is watching over Angel; there a brief end tag a minute later.
  • Piano and strings for Willow and Oz making out. It's short. I wonder if all the Oz/Willow stuff can be arranged into a suite...
  • The soft uneasy-ish strings (and a flute harmonizing with it) as Buffy talks to the poisoned Angel. It leads up to the Drink Me cue from the score promo.
  • Some drama material as Angel brings Buffy to the hospital; it transitions into softer material.
  • The sad music as Buffy has a Slayer vision with Faith. It leads into some of the music from the season three score promo.
  • The montage of the Scooby Gang at work and the Mayor, which is a variation of the opening of the cue War; there's a brief lull and then more montage music.
  • Some more Oz and Willow kissing music.
  • The music -- variation of material from the episode -- as Angel tells Buffy he's just going to leave without saying good-bye.
  • The low-key stuff as the Mayor gives his Commencement speech; and the dramatic material when he ascends.
  • The action and dramatic material from the climax not on the promo.
  • The softer music after the battle has ended.
  • And, finally, the soft and short closing cue.

    Special Note: the opening of the cue War is from earlier in the episode and it has a different stinger end than the promo.

    According to the Whedon comics, via the BtVS wiki, Faith had a happy ending later on in the Whedon comics; Giles was very kind.

    Where's that hospital police officer who was standing around mere feet away from Buffy's room, when Angel shoves the Mayor into a window, breaking it and knocking things over. Guess he went on a sudden doughnut break.

    Gotta say, Harmony really got screwed. Introduced and screwed in one episode. And Willow is partially to blame.

    I'm surprised Giles didn't empty out all his important books since he had time and advanced notice.

    I don't know, is it just me or was Carpenter (Cordelia) enjoying herself a little too real-ly with Wesley?

    Mayor: "Faith's a good girl; she'll take anything they can throw at her."

    Giles: "Buffy's quite the Council; she'll no longer be working with Wesley from now on.
    Cordelia: "But he's her Watcher."
    Giles: "Buffy no longer needs a Watcher."
    Cordelia: "Well, does he have to leave the country? I mean, you got fired and you still hang around like a big loser; why can't he?"

    Buffy: "Giles: weapons, weapons, weapons."

    Oz: "You nervous?"
    Willow: "Only in a terrified way."

    Buffy: "My God -- he's gonna do the entire speech."
    Willow: "Man, just ascend already."
    Buffy: "Evil."

    I'm moving on to season four now. I just wanted it to have it's own separate post and now continued in this one, so I'll be back a little later today.

     Posted:   Dec 13, 2017 - 2:48 PM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    Can't wait to read more from you!
    Even though i know all these cues by heart it's so interesting hearing what other people think about them!

    I've been watching this show a thousand times for 20 years now.
    And not just because I love the show. But I very often put on an episode ONLY because I want to listen and pay attention to the score big grin Every time I notice new cues that I really want to get my hands on!

    Soon my love, soon. (speaking to myself, lol)

     Posted:   Dec 13, 2017 - 3:36 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    SEASON 4:

    Beck scored the whole season.

    "The Freshman"

  • The strings and flutes cue as buffy tries to sleep in the dorm room, but her roommate is snoring. Hints at material from an earlier season; the cue is on one of the promos, but I can't recall the name. There's more a minute or two later. There's another piece like it later when Buffy is back from battling the vampire gang (see cue below).
  • The cue as vampires raid a dorm.
  • The fight music for Buffy battling the vampire gang.
  • The cue as Xander gives Buffy a pep talk. Then some new investigating music.
  • The gang going for weapons and Buffy being beaten up by the vampire gangs.
  • The music for the introduction of The Initiative.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    Re-listening to these scores, it's clear Wanker took some ideas from Beck.

    Giles tells Buffy she'll have to keep her Slayer identity a secret while at the university (or is it college? Buffy said last season the university, but it's referred to here as college). It's rather pointless since it's in Sunnydale, which means the university/college is filled with students from high school and town's people who generally knew what Buffy was. Why the secret?

    The university/college -- where students actually use the library.

    Woman: "Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior?"
    Buffy: "Ah, you know, I meant to and-and then I just got really busy."

    Buffy: "It's nice that you're excited."
    Willow: "It's just that in high school knowledge was pretty much frowned upon; you really had to work to learn anything. But here the energy, the-the collective intelligence -- it's like this force; th-this penetrating force. And I can just feel my mind opening up, you know? An-and just letting this place thrust into an-and spurt knowledge into ... that sentence ended up in a difference place than it started out in."

    Giles: "I'm not supposed to have a private life?" when Buffy shows up to his house and there's a half naked black lady friend there.
    Buffy: "No. Because you're very very old. And it's gross."

    Xander: "Do we hug?"
    Oz: "I think we're too manly."

    "Living Conditions"

  • Buffy fighting a demon after pushing her roommate into the bushes.
  • The plucky music as Buffy's roommate snoops through Buffy's stuff. Almost 100% SFX free.
  • The short cue as buffy winces as she sees her roommate spill food on Buffy's sweater. There's another fun stinger like that that ends the episode.
  • Another plucky fun cue as Buffy is going crazy over the things her roommate (Kathy) has done in the dorm room.
  • The demon ritual music.
  • More plucky music as Buffy is arguing and getting pissed at Kathy.
  • And yet more plucky-ish music as Buffy and Kathy are annoying each other. And more about a minute later.
  • Willow calling Giles and then the gang capturing Buffy.
  • The cue as Buffy confronts Kathy. And the ensuing fight music. It's a long cue with some lulls. Maybe six minutes.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    I'd have rather seen more of Buffy's roommate than Anya.

    Buffy: "You run?"
    Giles: "And jump. And bend. and occasionally frolic," when Giles comes running home from exercising.

    Willow: "He's our grown up friend. Not in a creepy way." (speaking of Giles)

    Oz: "On the plus side, you killed the bench which was looking shifty."

    That's it for today.

    I think I may have found at least one episode I had to skip earlier, so tomorrow will probably be made up mostly of skipped episodes, so in other words -- doubling back.

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 4:33 AM   
     By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

    Giles tells Buffy she'll have to keep her Slayer identity a secret while at the university (or is it college? Buffy said last season the university, but it's referred to here as college).

    This isn't necessarily a continuity error; public colleges are often part of larger public universities. For example, here in New York, we have the City University of New York, which is actually a network of colleges. The campuses are spread all over the city, but credits gotten at one college within CUNY easily transfer to another without conversion or losses because they're all part of the same system. CUNY is also part of the greater State University of New York.

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 8:02 AM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    Do you think the whole Disney/Fox thing that happened today will affect the Jan 23 release?

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 11:27 AM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    I doubt it. The deal for Buffy is already in place (it almost came out on Black Friday). But I sincerely hope Disney's purchase of Fox doesn't mean that LLL (and Kritzerland, etc.) will lose access to releasing Fox scores.


     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 11:31 AM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    I hope you're right. You probably are.
    I'm just so paranoid regarding this release! haha! big grin

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 11:42 AM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    The deal could be in place, but sign offs from people in FOX could be delayed for who knows how long. Unless it's already signed off on.

    And if Whedon's career takes a dive because of his ex-wife's open letter about what he did, it might be a little difficult to get a second volume (if he has to sign off on it).

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 11:49 AM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    You guys are paranoid.

    If Whedon's career "takes a dive" it'll be because Justice League tanked (though I doubt that'll be blamed on him, really -- I think people realize at this point that Snyder and his people were the problem for the DCEU). It won't be because his ex-wife came out publicly about him having affairs. That's nothing new in Hollywood. He was not accused of sexual harassment/assault as far as I know.

    Personally I wouldn't mind if Whedon's career took a dive because I'm tired of him playing in other people's sandboxes. His Marvel association has been fun but now I want him to be an underdog in Hollywood again, producing original stuff like Firefly, and yes, despite the terrible ending even Dollhouse had some brilliant original moments. Even if another Whedon project gets prematurely cancelled it's a lot more interesting to me than him just dealing with preexisting properties.


     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 11:50 AM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    Let's hope it's already signed off for! smile

    My God, would be so tragic if an open letter from an ex-wife can ruin such things as score releases :O

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 12:32 PM   
     By:   CindyLover   (Member)

    Do you think the whole Disney/Fox thing that happened today will affect the Jan 23 release?


     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 1:14 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    "The Harsh Light of Day"

  • The short piece as Harmony bites Willow before the opening credits. Also harkens back to a cue from a previous season. Season two as I recall.
  • The strings and acoustic guitar piece as Buffy walks and talks to her new boy crush.
  • Buffy and Spike fighting.
  • The piece with snare as Giles tells them to go find Buffy after seeing a news report. There's some short softer material with strings afterwards.
  • Buffy and Spike fighting in the daylight music.
  • The soft strings, woodwinds and acoustic guitar cue Buffy talks to Willow and Harmony walks away.

    Everybody's gettin' some these passed episodes; Willow, Oz, Buffy, Spike, Harmony, Giles, Xander, Anya. Except Amy, who is still a rat (unless a rat is sneaking into her cage and she's having dirty dirty rat sex). Spike even suggest squirrels are doing it.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    Willow: "Buffy's having lusty wrong feelings."

    Giles: "Whoa, Giles has a TV. Everybody -- Giles has a TV! He's shallow like us!"

    "Fear, Itself"

  • The music as Anya walks around the haunted party house.
  • The piece that begins as Buffy can't see Xander anymore. Low brass and generally spooky music.
  • Suspense brass music for Buffy fighting off dead things in the basement.

    Special Note: one cue is on the Rounder Records score CD.

    There's not much scoring in the episode compared to the previous seasons.

    Giles in a sombrero. Giles with a chainsaw.

    Xander: "Who's a little fear demon?"

    "Beer Bad"

  • Buffy's daydream music.
  • Some brief light plucky music as Buffy steals food from another student, followed by some mystery music.
  • Some slow plucked strings as Buffy is drunk and hanging out with college boys. There's more about a minute later.
  • The plucked strings and percussion piece as Xander tells the drunk college boys it's time to pay up and go home.
  • The next cue after the commercial break. In fact, the cue before has an ending where you could wait a split second and continue it with this. Leads into Beck's take on tribal percussion material. Combining them would make a nice long cue (and not pointlessly combined cues) at a little over five minutes in length. There's a little more less than a minute later.
  • The plucky cue as Willow tells Buffy's ex he isn't fooling her. More plucky stuff as Buffy is drunk and is trying to get the TV to work. I really enjoy Beck's playful and plucky stuff.
  • More percussion stuff for the drunk college boys burning down a basement(?), also using some staccato brass. You know what? Just assume every single cue from this point on that is plucky and had percussion, is a highlight and should be included.
  • The strings and piano piece as Buffy's ex apologizes to Buffy.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    A rather mediocre and kind of poor episode. It's like we went back to season one. However, the score is top notch.

    Xander: "Nothing can defeat the penis!"

    "Wild at Heart" (12:00

  • More Buffy fighting vampires at night music -- this time with a little anvil.
  • Werewolves chasing Buffy's teacher.
  • The singer werewolf girl seducing Oz at the college laundry mat.
  • Willow trying to get with Oz; strings and woodwinds.
  • The singer werewolf girl seducing Oz again, at Oz's cage.
  • Willow's unhappy sad music with strings and woodwinds when she finds Oz locked in the cage with the singer girl.
  • The detache strings and brass as Willow casts a spell. This marks a turning point for Willow -- she's using magic in anger.
  • Buffy fighting an Initiative member and the singer girl screwing with Willow, and Willow fighting werewolf Oz.
  • Oz saying good-bye to Willow. If this is the Willow/Oz love theme (I can't quite make it out), this may be the first full and varied rendition of it.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    I don't understand -- where is the cage Oz is locked in? Giles doesn't work at the college, so there's no library cage. He's obviously not at Giles' place, since Giles would have heard and noticed Oz escaping. Oz can't have one because so far the indication is he rents.
    Oz says he needs to get back to his place and figure out how he got out of his cage, but no implication the cage is at his house.
    CinemaSins: "Random cage is random!"

    Oh, never mind. 3/4ths of the way in they decide to reveal it -- underground in a cemetery. Hey -- why didn't Oz just take up residence in Angel's place, now that Angel is in Los Angeles. Series budget wise, that would have saved money from building a new set.

    Xander's parents. So unimportant we never see them. Ever. We saw Willow's parents.

    Continuity error: when we saw Oz transform into a werewolf in season two or three, we saw that his fingers elongated. In this episode they don't and his hand merely transforms into a werewolf hand without elongation. Also, the full transforming takes barely any time at all.

    That's it for today. I'll have to skip "The Initiative" (the next episode), as I couldn't find a load.

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 1:35 PM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    Yes, that is indeed the Willow/Oz theme! Love it!
    You can actually hear the first sign of it in one of the Graduation Day episodes from season 3.
    Then all the different variations from it in this episode. It's also in Doomed (or was it Something Blue?).
    And then heavily featured in New Moon Rising.
    I love this theme so much and hated that all we ever got was that short version of it from one of the Rounder bonus trakcs. So I begged and begged and begged Christophe Beck himself to please please please upload it to his web page...and finally one day, he had enough of me, so he uploaded the full version. The one from that last scene in Wild At Heart as Oz leaves the show. It's 2 og 3 years ago.

    "See! Nagging works!" - Monica Geller big grin

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 2:57 PM   
     By:   ZerOne   (Member)

    Personally I wouldn't mind if Whedon's career took a dive because I'm tired of him playing in other people's sandboxes. His Marvel association has been fun but now I want him to be an underdog in Hollywood again, producing original stuff like Firefly, and yes, despite the terrible ending even Dollhouse had some brilliant original moments. Even if another Whedon project gets prematurely cancelled it's a lot more interesting to me than him just dealing with preexisting properties.

    I'm with you there. Honestly, I haven't even seen The Avengers, I really don't care for Marvel (aside from Jessica Jones). My favorite superheroes will always be Buffy and Angel, because their stories were always grounded in character and everyday life struggles and that's what I relate to, intimate stories about heroes with flaws, heroes with lives. Theatrical superhero movies are "too big" in scope for me to really enjoy them. And I really wish Joss (and Bryan Fuller for that matter) would go back to creating their own original concepts rather than adapting already established properties. And yes, Dollhouse ranks far behind his other shows (mostly because of the restrictions of network TV, Eliza's limited acting capabilities and the lack of a Scooby Gang until the end), but even that show had its moments and its great ideas (in fact it already played with a lot of the themes that HBO's Westworld played with and was praised for).

    Do you think the whole Disney/Fox thing that happened today will affect the Jan 23 release?

    I doubt it. As Yavar has pointed out, the soundtrack was almost ready to be released on Black Friday, so there must have been a lot of progress on it already and Disney has only just bought FOX, so I'd say any impact that they will have on FOX properties and business transactions will probably only materialize in the first few months of the new year, as the whole groundwork for the new infrastructure has to be put in place first. It's not like all existing deals will suddenly be put on hold.

    Just the thought of a 4 disc box set is like a dream coming true. A true miracle.
    Imagine if we actually get Vol 2 and even Vol 3 like The X-Files!

    Im so excited to find out the track list for this! What will they include? Which composers?
    Will the track list order be chronological? I have so many questions!
    Just wish they┬┤d announce it already! haha!

    I've been rewatching season six and I noticed that Wanker's or Wander's (whatever he prefers to be called) best and most memorable cues have been repeated numerous times throughout seasons five and six, so I'm less worried about there not being enough space for my favorite cues by him.

    I think a perfect CD breakdown for this set would be
    1 CD: Murphy/other S2 Composers / Rob Duncan - with more emphasis on Duncan than on the others
    2 CDs: Beck
    1 CD: Wanker

    I do hope the set goes straight to the cue highlights though and doesn't waste too much space on cues that are bland or difficult to differentiate from each other.

    I love season 7! big grin

    I like the season, but it definitely is a weaker season since it loses momentum once the main story arc kicks into high gear, with little happening other than table-setting for the finale and big speeches by Buffy and the first Evil. In retrospect, it probably would have worked better if the writers had done character-based stand alones with little arc things rather than going all serialized with nothing happening. Also, the fact that Spike becomes the most important thing on Buffy's mind during that season is just kind of ridiculous. As much as I love Spike, it's ridiculous that 1.) in a finale about female empowerment, he is the one who saves the world and wins the battle for Buffy and 2.) that in a series about a strong powerful heroine, the last line uttered by the heroine is "Spike", the guy she had an abusive relationship with.

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 3:20 PM   
     By:   jb1234   (Member)

    I remember season 4 having less score highlights and quite a bit of tracking.

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 3:22 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    I seem to recall tracking in it, too, but so far it appears I haven't hit those episodes yet.

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 3:34 PM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    Yeah, there were definitely some fighting music at least that was already used in season 2 and 3.
    Not much, but some. There is this "theme" (or mostly just the same music) in different episodes when Buffy fights the "mystery" soldiers from The Initiative which I know was used in season 2 or 3. I dont think any of the emotional score was reused though. Not that I can remember at least.

    And I agree, season 4 didnt have AS MUCH as score high lights as the previous two seasons, imo.
    All though it had some of the best scored episodes of the entire show (Hush and Restless are so perfect!).
    And then there's the Willow/Oz theme and the Buffy/Riley theme.
    But I do suspect that Beck spent less time with the scoring for season 4. Maybe he had lost his passion by then?
    Or were more busy doing movies at the same time?

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 3:39 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    He didn't want to do TV anymore -- he wanted to become a film composer. I suspect he was already getting an assignment or two at the time and his attention was divided.

    He was somehow talked into scoring the season five finale, simply because the series had been cancelled and they didn't know at the time that it would come back (on another network) for another two years.

    And he was already signed for the season six musical (long in development). Though there's little scoring in it.

    I wonder if Rounder has retained the rights to any score on their releases and it those won't be on the LLLR set.

     Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 4:35 PM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    I wonder if Rounder has retained the rights to any score on their releases and it those won't be on the LLLR set.

    I hope it wont be on this box set. Would much rather have brand new music smile

     Posted:   Dec 15, 2017 - 1:40 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    I had to skip "Pangs" (no load found)

    Special Note: There was one bonus online cue available.

    "Something Blue"

  • The cue when Willow walks into Oz's place and finds it empty.
  • The cue when Willow wakes up at night and decides to cast a spell to make her pain go away. And the brief stinger in the same vein right after the commercial break.
  • The short bit as Spike escapes from Giles.
  • The cue as Spike is forced back to Giles' place and Willow's spell is causing problems. And the short playful bit after a lull when the spell causes Spike to propose marriage to Buffy.
  • Another plucky cue at Giles' place and then Buffy seeing a wedding dress out in town.
  • Fight music for Buffy fighting demons in the cemetery and the gang plus Spike running away.
  • The acoustic guitar and strings piece that closes out the episode.

    Special Note: There was one bonus online cue available.

    I wouldn't be apposed to having the whole score released.

    Buffy: "Giles, help -- he's gonna scold me."

    Spike: "'Passions' is on! Timmy's down the bloody well!"

    Xander: "I believe that's the dance of a brave little toaster." (about Willow dancing)

    Buffy: "Oh, I got the stones. I got a whole bunch of ... stones."

    Willow: "Eat a cookie -- ease my pain."


    The introduction of Tara. I never liked this character. She's worse than Anya.

  • The plucky little piece as Willow is spying on Buffy and Riley.
  • The cue at night when the Gentlemen steal people's voices.
  • The piece when they realize they can't talk.
  • The piece as Willow and buffy walk about town to find nobody can talk.
  • The cue when the Gentlemen's henchmen hold a college guy down and one of the Gentlemen cut him open.
  • The cue immediately following that after the commercial break
  • The piece as Tara runs away from the Gentlemen and their henchmen. It's a short bit removed from the suite on the musical CD.
  • Buffy and Riley fighting the henchmen/Xander and Anya kissing music. Lots of tense fighting music utilizing ideas from the body of the score.

    Special Notes: between the Rounder score CD and the musical CD which had a suite, the score is probably mostly covered.
    Parts of the action stuff on the musical CD are different from what is contained in the episode. It's enough so where the TV version needs to be released (there's also small portions not on the suite).

    You know what? This deserves a full release. I know I really don't address that in this thread, but I just had to this time. Beck's terrific score has to tell the story for most of the episode while nobody can speak.

    What good is a voice recognition system for using an elevator in the Initiative if the passenger doesn't also have to voice verify?

    Why don't the Gentlemen already have seven hearts? They had the town open to then all night long.

    "Hush" was also a big episode, doing more than it's plot, but shaking things up and changing dynamics.

    Anya: "This isn't a relationship, you don't need me. All you care about is lots of orgasms."
    Spike lies up some from the couch he's on and Giles kind of looks over.
    Xander: "Okaaayyy ... remember how we talked about private conversations? They're less private when they're in front of my friends."
    Spike: "Oh, we're not your friends. Go on."
    Giles: "Please don't."


  • The brief fight music in the Initiative.
  • The piece with strings and piano when Willow finds a dark room to sulk in.
  • Buffy fighting the big demon.
  • Buffy telling Riley about her life.
  • The brief action piece as Giles is attacked.
  • The fight with the demons at the Hellmouth in the high school basement.
  • Spike's speech about going out and kicking some demon ass. Some brass and snare drum.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    Sooo ... Xander's parents never said anything about Xander bringing Spike in and they never went to the basement where Xander lives (and the washer and dryer are) and saw Spike?

    "What's this? Sittin' around watchin' the telly while there's still evil afoot. It's not very industrious of you. I say we go out there and kick a little demon ass. What? Can't go without your Buffy? Is that it? Too chicken? Let's find her; she is the chosen one after all. Come on! Vampires! ERRRR -- nasty! Let's annihilate them. For justice and for the safety of puppies 'n' Christmas, right. Let's fight that evil. Let's kill something! " Willow and Xander still say nothing, "Oh, come on!"

    I also had to skip "A New Man" (no load found)

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD has one cue from this episode.

    "The I in Team"

    The introduction of Adam.

  • Buffy training at night for the Initiative.
  • The brief bit -- which I assume is the Buffy/Riley love theme -- for piano and strings as Riley is about to let Buffy down to the Initiative. Followed by some kind of restrained ominous-y brass material.
  • The low timpani and brass as the Initiative team is being deployed by Riley.
  • The Initiative going after Spike.
  • The weird-sounding montage cue as Buffy and Riley fight the demon intercut with them getting it on.
  • The two cues where Buffy is fighting the demons in the trap.
  • The uneasy piano and strings piece as Walsh gives her speech

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    They let Spike out and live by himself. That's a big change that was just done off screen from the last episode.

    Willow says a magic spell out loud.
    Xander: "You know magic at the poker table qualifies as cheating?"
    Willow: "I wasn't cheating, I was praying."

    Willow: "Guess she's put with Riley. You know how it is with a spankin' new boyfriend." (speaking of Buffy)
    Anya: "Yes, we've enjoyed spanking."
    Xander tosses the deck of playing cards everywhere in a nervous action.

    "Goodbye Iowa"

  • The cue as Adam is walking around outside for the first time and comes across a little boy. Slow dark evil stuff.
  • The cue as the Riley and his Initiative buddy see Walsh's dead body. Also has a brief bit of militaristic action material.
  • The piece for Willow and Tara doing the demon location spell.
  • The kind of plucky and also snare drum piece for Buffy and Xander sneaking into the Initiative.
  • The fight music with Adam, Riley and Buffy.
  • The soft strings, woodwinds and piano cue as Riley recovers in a military hospital.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    I think I hear a tracked cue; maybe from "Hush" (for Buffy comforting Riley).

    Spike mentions a cousin, which we never see ever.

    Where would Giles hear rumors about the Initiative?

    Demons suddenly have a code not to kill each other? Didn't seem to be a problem before.

    Spike: "By the by, if you're trying to kill her," gives Riley two enthusiastic thumbs up.

    Buffy: "That probably would have sounded more commanding if I wasn't wearing my yummy sushi pajamas."

    Xander: "I totally get it now. I can I have sex with Riley, too?" (after seeing the Initiative)

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