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 Posted:   Sep 10, 2020 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)


Yes, this is all true, it will not be an easy feat to aptly film DUNE, but the thing is: I am willing to let the book be book and the film be film. If the movie on its own manages at least to get some of the scope and political/philosophical/religious aspects of the book woven into its fabric, I'd be happy. Reading a book is a more intellectual exercise than watching a movie, which is more visceral (of course, either is both, but we're talking tendencies here). But the equivalent is Peter Jackson's LORD OF THE RINGS, which transferred Tolkien's LORD OF THE RINGS adequately to the screen. Sure it changed and dropped some things and made a fantasy spectacle out of it, but the core was there and the movies worked on their own. If DUNE manages a similar feat, it would already be interesting. And it is already good that the movie is part of a two film project. Similarly to TLOTR, the makers decided that you just cannot cramp this story, even in streamlined movie form, into a single movie, and they are right. It is also reassuring that this is an proclaimed dream project of Villeneuve, who is a big fan of the book.


What you think about the Scy-Fy miniseries?

"Dune" was much more faithful to the book, but the visuals were terrible! Also, the cast was kind of disastrous.

"Children of Dune" in the other hand was very good. Visuals were better and the cast too. James McVoy nailed Leto II!

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2020 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

I was clicking through some soundscape presets in Logic and in so doing I accidentally played the entire scores to Dunkirk, Blade Runner 2049 and Dune all at once.

I even hit some pipe organ presets and accidentally played the score to Interstellar too.

Let me know if you’re interested in hearing them. I’ll tell you which menu to find them so you can play them on demand too.


Unless a motorcycle roared by periodically, the effect would be incomplete.


Isn't it a chainsaw?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2020 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I prefer a noble failure directed by Villeneuve over any disposable franchise series with the umpteenth superhero.

Indeed. This seems to be the kind of film I prefer; something with texture and depth - not just gaudy CGI extravaganzas without soul.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2020 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Visually, it reminded me of Jupiter Ascending (and we all know how THAT turned out) wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 1:19 AM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

This video does a pretty good job of asking, "Why does the new version exist?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZPZGq3Zy8&t=5s

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

I prefer a noble failure directed by Villeneuve over any disposable franchise series with the umpteenth superhero.

Indeed. This seems to be the kind of film I prefer; something with texture and depth - not just gaudy CGI extravaganzas without soul.


Likewise.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 3:56 AM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

I've got a fondness for noble failures too. BLADE RUNNER 2049 is my favorite film of recent years. But I can't see the logic in remaking DUNE when there other SF classics that still haven't reached the screen: THE STARS MY DESTINATION, RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA, etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've got a fondness for noble failures too. BLADE RUNNER 2049 is my favorite film of recent years. But I can't see the logic in remaking DUNE when there other SF classics that still haven't reached the screen: THE STARS MY DESTINATION, RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA, etc.

True, but so far no one has really managed to adapt DUNE properly, so I can understand the urge to be the first to do it "right". Whether this is it, remains to be seen.

But you have an interesting topic there that deserves its own thread in the "non-film score discussion" area, i.e. unfilmed science fiction literature that deserves a screen adaptation of some sort.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

I find the scene in Lynch's movie where the space fleet cruises through some great golden door one of the most haunting things I've ever seen. And I can't work out why.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Oh, don't get me wrong - I like Lynch's DUNE too, it's much better than its reputation.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Rumors are swirling that another release date shakeup is in the works, which would likely push DUNE to 2021.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I prefer a noble failure directed by Villeneuve over any disposable franchise series with the umpteenth superhero.

I'd prefer *another* super hero movie I'll probably not watch than a preposterously false-intellectual wank wholesale dullards.

The last thing this world needs is another generation of smarmy directors who make smarmy fans.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I've got a fondness for noble failures too. BLADE RUNNER 2049 is my favorite film of recent years. But I can't see the logic in remaking DUNE when there other SF classics that still haven't reached the screen: THE STARS MY DESTINATION, RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA, etc.


Perhaps because DUNE is a good book, but has never had a good feature film versions. Now, maybe THE STARS MY DESTINATION and RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA may also be good books, but I have not read them. :-) (Though I have of course read other books by their authors.)

But sometimes, films just get made, and other times, films get made with a passion. Villeneuve sure has a passion for this project, this alone will already make it a more interesting, because passion projects tend to be -- even should they fail -- more interesting than potboiler jobs directors do for hire, which was basically what Lynch's DUNE was. (Lynch was hired by Laurentiis and had not even read the book. And while there were some interesting aspects about the movie, you just know Lynch's heart wasn't really in it and it shows.)

I love Villeneuve's prior films, especially SICARIO, which is among the best cop thrillers of the last twenty years, so I am looking forward to this.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I've got a fondness for noble failures too. BLADE RUNNER 2049 is my favorite film of recent years. But I can't see the logic in remaking DUNE when there other SF classics that still haven't reached the screen: THE STARS MY DESTINATION, RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA, etc.

I mean, you're not wrong.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   ROBERT Z   (Member)

Indeed , why tell us the same old stories again and again?

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

I've got a fondness for noble failures too. BLADE RUNNER 2049 is my favorite film of recent years. But I can't see the logic in remaking DUNE when there other SF classics that still haven't reached the screen: THE STARS MY DESTINATION, RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA, etc.

In fairness, it's not for lack of trying. David Fincher, at the height of his power, tried to make RAMA happen for many years and it didn't come together. With budgets this size it needs to be something the studios can sell, and in the wake of GAME OF THRONES they can sell DUNE more easily than perhaps some other adaptations. The difference in the marketplace between now and when RAMA fell through is of course the cash-heavy streamers and their neverending thirst for content. Maybe we'll yet see RAMA or something like it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


In fairness, it's not for lack of trying. David Fincher, at the height of his power, tried to make RAMA happen for many years and it didn't come together. With budgets this size it needs to be something the studios can sell, and in the wake of GAME OF THRONES they can sell DUNE more easily than perhaps some other adaptations. The difference in the marketplace between now and when RAMA fell through is of course the cash-heavy streamers and their neverending thirst for content. Maybe we'll yet see RAMA or something like it.


This right here. Mike pays attention and isn't just another FSM user with a patronizing opinion.

Still always happy to see all of the FSM snobby regulars bemoaning something that again they are not entitled to watch or listen to, yet must discuss in the most attention-seeking manner.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I've got a fondness for noble failures too. BLADE RUNNER 2049 is my favorite film of recent years. But I can't see the logic in remaking DUNE when there other SF classics that still haven't reached the screen: THE STARS MY DESTINATION, RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA, etc.

In fairness, it's not for lack of trying. David Fincher, at the height of his power, tried to make RAMA happen for many years and it didn't come together. With budgets this size it needs to be something the studios can sell, and in the wake of GAME OF THRONES they can sell DUNE more easily than perhaps some other adaptations. The difference in the marketplace between now and when RAMA fell through is of course the cash-heavy streamers and their neverending thirst for content. Maybe we'll yet see RAMA or something like it.


If only Elliott Goldenthall had been given this assignment? Just saying....

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

This right here. Mike pays attention and isn't just another FSM user with a patronizing opinion.

From one optically obstructed, chain smoking avatar to another.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • When I first heard of Villeneuve filming DUNE a couple of years ago, I had high hopes for the project. Now that I've seen the trailer, I still have high hopes, it looks very promising. I just hope and keep my fingers crossed that it will be profitable enough to warrant that the second film will be done accordingly. I mean, this is just DUNE, Part I, even though it is understandably not called that. But like THE LORD OF THE RINGS, it was decided that the material is too complex and unwieldy for a single movie, so it was always going to be two movies (at least two movies.. for the original novel DUNE, obviously there are prequel/sequel books as well, that may or may not be filmed one day, but we're just talking DUNE here.)

    Not having read any of the books (yet), does it stand to reason that each book will require 2-parter movies?

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