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 Posted:   Sep 17, 2020 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

From my observation this is a sign of dementia. As years go by they lose interest in their collection, no longer like the majority of their music, don't like anything new and only listen to the same titles over and over again.

These are the kind of posts that make the FSM Board worth visiting.

P.S. I can relate to 75% of solium's "diagnosis."


I knew you of all ppl would appreciate my comments. I thought of starting a thread on this topic several times. I know from personal experience and it makes me sad. Maybe I'll tell my story some day.

I should say really no harm done if your interests narrow. But as an observer and when you see a friend or loved one lose interest in things its kinda depressing. But as long as they are content I guess that's all that matters.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2020 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Yup, once you stop enjoying things & getting passionate & excited about stuff (& it doesn't matter how stupid the stuff is), & being generally a bit daft, then that's a slippery slope. I have a relation & an old friend who have gone a bit like that, & it's sad to see.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2020 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Still working on my (non) doctorate, but could one argue that clinging to each and every item ever purchased is a form of dementia? Has anyone here ever met a hoarder who wasn't out of their mind?

It's a rare treat whenever I discover new music I come to hold in the same lofty regard as the classics we routinely worship.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2020 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   MD   (Member)

Getting rid of treasured collections can be sign of depression, not sign of dementia.
This quite quick change to medical study of soundtrack collector behaviour.smile

Edited.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2020 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Zeno Cosini3   (Member)

Yup, once you stop enjoying things & getting passionate & excited about stuff (& it doesn't matter how stupid the stuff is), & being generally a bit daft, then that's a slippery slope. I have a relation & an old friend who have gone a bit like that, & it's sad to see.

Rameau,
no, that`s not completely right.
When I lost so much "near by" people and I suddenly started thinking about what is REALLY important in my life, I discovered that it`s not the point that I NEED to buy the 5th or 6th edition of a score I liked since decades because there is ONE more missing track included.
I still NEED to buy new (and some unreleased old) music, but I don`t need to have MOST of this. When I fell in love with a new score I listen to it several times thru Spotify or somewhere else. And if I´m still in love after that I will buy the CD.
But to be honest: I prefer older scores and yesterdays music.
On the other hand: I feel that some of my older CDs doesn`t TOUCH me anymore. I`ve lost my love for them. And it makes me home and it makes me lighter (ooooh, I don`t know the perfect english word at the moment) to give it away.
I still have some 1000+ CDs. More music I can listen to till the end of my days. I do it now...one by one, sometimes several times. A lot is gone and some will follow. I STILL LOVE my music. I`m in such a HAPPY position to have all this incredible music. Sometimes I T`think I must be the happiest man on earth. I live in paradise in western europe, I have a house, a family, I can eat each day, have a warm and dry place to sleep. AND I have sooooo much wonderful music. But as well I have (maybe) a lot of music I really don`t NEED to be so happy, because I don`t really love it... That`s not sad, that's....something else!

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2020 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

I am waiting for posters to chime in about the ethics of keeping the files after unloading the physical objects. We've had some hilarious conversations on that topic.

In the U.K. it is illegal to even burn music from a CD you own to a file and upload to your chosen digital music player. And that was from the copyright holders of the music. Even the U.K. government tried to support owners of CDs to be able to burn them but lost the case in court. How the hell this was ever going to be enforced we will never know.smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2020 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I am waiting for posters to chime in about the ethics of keeping the files after unloading the physical objects. We've had some hilarious conversations on that topic.

In the U.K. it is illegal to even burn music from a CD you own to a file and upload to your chosen digital music player. And that was from the copyright holders of the music. Even the U.K. government tried to support owners of CDs to be able to burn them but lost the case in court. How the hell this was ever going to be enforced we will never know.smile


I thought Europe was a lot more lenient when it came to copyright laws.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2020 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Does thinning your collection correspond with thinning of the hair?

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2020 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I am waiting for posters to chime in about the ethics of keeping the files after unloading the physical objects. We've had some hilarious conversations on that topic.

In the U.K. it is illegal to even burn music from a CD you own to a file and upload to your chosen digital music player. And that was from the copyright holders of the music. Even the U.K. government tried to support owners of CDs to be able to burn them but lost the case in court. How the hell this was ever going to be enforced we will never know.smile



But the UK has always been a "special" place. In fact, this is not limited to music files or CD ripping. Technically, in the UK you are not allowed to make any copies of any copyrighted material, which is of course absurd, as practically EVERY singe file on your computer is copyrighted in one way or another (the photos you took are copyrighted by you).

Article on Torrentfreak (https://torrentfreak.com/itunes-is-illegal-under-uk-copyright-law-150805/), which includes this quote:

Strictly speaking this means that UK citizens are not allowed to make a backup of their computer. After all, pretty much every computer contains copyrighted media. Needless to say, this turns almost the entire country into ‘outlaws’.


Lock 'em all up an throw away the keys, I say. :-D



I thought Europe was a lot more lenient when it came to copyright laws.


No, it is not. That impression may be here because of some earlier releases of film music in Europe which may be legal there but not in the US, but that had to do by and large with different licensing and copyright expiration legalities, etc. By no means is Europe more lenient when it comes to copyright laws than the US, sometimes the opposite. I am all for sensible copyrights and creators being reimbursed, but some copyright laws -- all over the world -- are just plain stupid and very obviously written by people who have no clue about what they make laws about.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2020 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

In the U.K. it is illegal to even burn music from a CD you own to a file and upload to your chosen digital music player.

Which, ironically, is the only reason I (and many others) still actually buy CDs at all.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2020 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

On the other hand: I feel that some of my older CDs doesn`t TOUCH me anymore. I`ve lost my love for them. And it makes me home and it makes me lighter (ooooh, I don`t know the perfect english word at the moment) to give it away.

I still have some 1000+ CDs. More music I can listen to till the end of my days. I do it now...one by one, sometimes several times. A lot is gone and some will follow. I STILL LOVE my music. I`m in such a HAPPY position to have all this incredible music. Sometimes I T`think I must be the happiest man on earth. I live in paradise in western europe, I have a house, a family, I can eat each day, have a warm and dry place to sleep. AND I have sooooo much wonderful music. But as well I have (maybe) a lot of music I really don`t NEED to be so happy, because I don`t really love it... That`s not sad, that's....something else!


Great post.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2020 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Regarding keeping copies... what if the disc is out of print and not on streaming?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2020 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I've deffo accumulated too much stuff and could do with purging some discs I bought but never really got into so much.
But it's mainly CDs that are my achilles heel.
I've pretty much cut out buying big movie books and DVDs etc.
And I never did collectibles or toys.
When I do purge a decent amount of unwanted CDs, it will probably just be to make room for newer stuff I want.
The thought of getting rid of the big beating heart of my collection is akin to making way for death.
You may as well just lie down and wait for the darkness to take you.
Not on my f*ckin watch.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2020 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I've just taken 10 CDs off my shelves at random

OHMSS (Barry) original album---Can go. Replaced by expanded edition.
Red King, White Knight (John Scott).....Never liked this one. It can go.
Nikita (Serra)............I have a digital download. It can go.
To The Ends of The Earth (Scott)....Keep. Good score
Blue Sun (Isham). I have a digital download. It can go.
The Thing (Morricone) Varese..........Can go. Replaced by Remastered Quartet.
Fear Is The Key (Budd)..Keep. I like Budd
Life For Rent (Dido).........Can go. Don't know why I bought it.
Visions Of Eight (Mancini). Keep. I like this one.
Romeo Is Bleeding (Isham)..........Can't remember what it sounds like. Can probably go.

So 7 out of 10 can go.

AS far as keeping copies go. In print/out of print I keep a copy unless I really hate the music. Over decades I've contributed a substantial amount of cash to the film and music industry, they can give me a little back at this point.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2020 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

While a agree with many of the sentiments on this thread about freeing ourselves from the shackles of "stuff", I also detect a tendency towards dismissing the physical CD, and perhaps even a slight disdain for film music. We don't generally feel that way about a jazz buff's collection of 10,000 LPs, or someone's library of 10,000 books. In those cases we're often overawed by the erudite collector's eh, collection. Why should film music CDs be any different?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2020 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

"...Can't remember what it sounds like. Can probably go."

This is what I've started doing with my overwhelming collection. I will spin a disc I haven't heard in years, wondering if it will ignite some interest in it that I didn't have before. I find ninety percent of the time these albums are easy ones to toss.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2020 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

"...Can't remember what it sounds like. Can probably go."

This is what I've started doing with my overwhelming collection. I will spin a disc I haven't heard in years, wondering if it will ignite some interest in it that I didn't have before. I find ninety percent of the time these albums are easy ones to toss.


Definitely. But why waste the gas tossing them out the car window on the highway? Invest in one of these babies. Only way to be sure.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2020 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Regarding keeping copies... what if the disc is out of print and not on streaming?

Trust me, your government and corporations, regardless of where you live are doing far worse crimes. Screw laws that repress the consumer- Copy (what your purchased) away!

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2020 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Your digital files will NOT survive CME's or EMP's. Hold onto your physical copies!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!


 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2020 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

I think I might have to start a two-out-one-in system whereby I can only buy a new score if I dispose of two others. There are plenty I honestly won't miss; I might stick another clearout list on the Trading Post at some stage as well.

 
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