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Since when is it off limits to critize a record label ? Should they be above reproach ? It's your pompous attitude that I find totally silly. You need to be treated by a professional. Varese Sarabande will issue whatever they want to issue no matter what I say or write because this is America. Opinions that don't agree with yours are still worthy of being heard. Since when is it off limits to criticize a fellow message board poster? Should they be above reproach? I'm always amused when people like you cast this as a matter of free speech and you being silenced, and then complain about the equally free speech of someone like me pointing out out that YOUR opinions are ill-informed (i.e. you apparently think poor taste on their part is the reason Varese expanded Along Came a Spider instead of The 13th Warrior or MacArthur, displaying complete ignorance of the realities of licensing). You act all the time like other people's taste is horrible and their opinions are trash, but retreat to "free speech" when someone has amply demonstrated that your ranting is, well, preposterous. So yeah, free speech, "this is America" (lol -- you know that free speech exists outside of the United States, as do many posters here...right?) Continue your rants and your attacks on the record labels (and fellow posters) and I'll continue to call you out for being ridiculous whenever I feel like it. Oftentimes I just bite my tongue when I see you post but you've really been on a tear lately. Yavar
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Varese, we're gonna need those clues faster to distract away from this sideshow.
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Wait, wait. I don't want to get into this battle, but I do think there are members (like me) who do care about Golden Age music. I like Golden, Silver and some of the current Age music. Some of the youngers on this board have also mentioned that they like older as well as newer scores. I don't think we can stereotype various members. Joan if everyone were as warm and friendly and positive as you, this board would be a much nicer place. Signed, A Former FSM Board Youngster
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Nobody cares about Golden Age scores anymore. Wait, wait. I don't want to get into this battle, but I do think there are members (like me) who do care about Golden Age music. I like Golden, Silver and some of the current Age music. Some of the youngers on this board have also mentioned that they like older as well as newer scores. I don't think we can stereotype various members. Variety is the spice of life, as they say.
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Since when is it off limits to critize a record label ? Should they be above reproach ? It's your pompous attitude that I find totally silly. You need to be treated by a professional. Varese Sarabande will issue whatever they want to issue no matter what I say or write because this is America. Opinions that don't agree with yours are still worthy of being heard. Since when is it off limits to criticize a fellow message board poster? Should they be above reproach? I'm always amused when people like you cast this as a matter of free speech and you being silenced, and then complain about the equally free speech of someone like me pointing out out that YOUR opinions are ill-informed (i.e. you apparently think poor taste on their part is the reason Varese expanded Along Came a Spider instead of The 13th Warrior or MacArthur, displaying complete ignorance of the realities of licensing). You act all the time like other people's taste is horrible and their opinions are trash, but retreat to "free speech" when someone has amply demonstrated that your ranting is, well, preposterous. So yeah, free speech, "this is America" (lol -- you know that free speech exists outside of the United States, as do many posters here...right?) Continue your rants and your attacks on the record labels (and fellow posters) and I'll continue to call you out for being ridiculous whenever I feel like it. Oftentimes I just bite my tongue when I see you post but you've really been on a tear lately. Yavar Let’s be fair— you hardly bite your tongue.
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Let’s be fair— you hardly bite your tongue. Oh, no doubt you haven't noticed I really do, sometimes. Do you need me to go find you examples of Cody attacking the labels and people's taste which I didn't respond to? Yavar
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Let’s be fair— you hardly bite your tongue. Oh, no doubt you haven't noticed I really do, sometimes. Do you need me to go find you examples of Cody attacking the labels and people's taste which I didn't respond to? Yavar I don’t care that he “attacks” labels. Like not at all. It’s the equivalent of someone attacking Huggies.
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Huggies killed my parents.
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I don’t care that he “attacks” labels. Like not at all. It’s the equivalent of someone attacking Huggies. Oh, so Intrada and La-La Land (each of which are made up of just a few passionate individuals) are the equivalent of a big megacorporation like Huggies, to you? Got it. But I don't care if someone offers valid criticism or constructive feedback for a film music label. Everybody messes up sometimes, and we are customers with a right to call them out on it when they do. But Cody is reliably negative and reliably uninformed, in his comments. And that makes him counterproductive to the very cause he purports to champion. Let's get back to music... Let's! Are club releases re-releases or can they also be new? Varese Sarabande Club titles can be expansions (which are designated "The Deluxe Edition") or premieres (The Big Fix and Rooster Cogburn are the most recent ones, despite the "Deluxe Edition" branding on the latter which has previously only been applied towards expansions...I suspect it was a marketing move on their part because expansions tend to sell better). They used to also include re-releases, branded as "Encore Edition", but the last of those was the Encore Edition of Raggedy Man over two years ago now, the last Goldsmith title produced for Varese by Robert Townson. After that Varese said they were abandoning that line and that there would be no more straight reissues in the Club. Varese released awesome new unreleased stuff the last couple of years.... LIST OF ADRIAN MESSENGER...FAMILY PLOT....MURDER BY DEATH ...THE GOONIES...etcetc All great titles. Family Plot and The Goonies were premiered by the Club over a decade ago, in 2010. (The former just took a while to sell out at 5000 copies.) Adrian Messenger came out in 2014. Murder by Death is the only one that came out in the last couple of years (two and a half years ago, to be exact), and it technically wasn't a Club title I'm pretty sure, though it was a limited edition. Missed out on the Matrix snubbing the movie for yonks that would now get my doe, also don't have Leviathan that'll be an essential pick-up, if its McArthur some did say green & blue then i'll leave it unless there's more material & I would snap an expanded Eiger Sanction - but I don't want another Blue Max - its a great-score but I have that 5 times. People are only joking about The Blue Max, leagolfer, don't worry. Varese has no rights to MacArthur or The Eiger Sanction; they merely had a limited sub-license for those from MCA (Universal Music Group). Any other label like Intrada or LLL should be able to put out a new edition of those with both the remastered album recordings and a premiere of the film tracks. Well, as long as John Williams approves a revisit to The Eiger Sanction anyways... oh, and Varese said on Facebook some years back that they also don't have any current rights to Leviathan. It was released by them in 1989 just before they started getting perpetuity rights as a standard thing. What I really want is cd premiers something that's been long forgotten since the LP days, that would excite me maybe other fans too - i'd dig a legit copy of One Step Beyond - Slapstick of Another Kind - Nowhere too Hide & Marie! & Frank Skinner titles that haven't been put too cd yet! Tough ask but you never know! Unlikely to come from Varese but it never hurts to ask and express interest! I made a case for putting out a premiere album release of Frank Skinner's great Arabian Nights score to Bryon Davis, who's done a lot of work producing things for Varese and now runs his own label, Notefornote. A lot of people don't know this but he's a big Frank Skinner fan -- he's one big reason the Varese LP to CD series from a few years back included a Frank Skinner disc! (I remember how much that surprised people at the time, both people who liked the Golden Age and people who didn't.) Arabian Nights has circulated amongst collectors for some time now and I gave him a copy, which he loved... but then he told me it just wasn't financially viable any more to produce a premiere commercial release of it, as much as he would love to do so. And you know what? No matter what his taste is and no matter how great the score is, that's the reality. He would *lose money* if he put out an obscure Golden Age score. And that's a sad truth that certain people are sadly unwilling to accept...but maybe if they put their own money into such a venture, they would finally be forced to admit reality, rather than demanding that others suffer financial ruin for their own temporary pleasure. Yavar
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Hey, my fictional dead parents were scruffy-looking nerf herders. That's Nerf herder-ist.
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Hollow Man - complete ! Naw, buddy. We Goldsmith nuts have had an embarrassment of riches lately. 2020 ended with a bundle of Goldsmith, but looking at 2021 releases alone we've had Looney Tunes complete, Along Came a Spider complete, Lionheart complete, Face of a Fugitive complete, Shamus complete, SPYS complete, The Stripper complete, Caboblanco complete, the remastered reissue of the LSO Rio Conchos/The Artist Who Did Not Want to Paint, and the CD premiere of the great finale cue Goldsmith wrote for Flaming Star! All that in only FIVE MONTHS. That's insane and wonderful. Let's be grateful and leave some space for non-Goldsmith now. The Matrix - complete! Hudson Hawk - complete! Christopher Columbus: The Discovery - complete! The Secret Garden - complete! The Scorpion King - complete! Mists of Avalon - complete! Paycheck - complete! Demolition Man - complete! Final Analysis - complete! Terminal Velocity - complete! The Dark Half - complete! Mouse Hunt - complete! For Love of the Game - complete! Memoirs of an Invisible Man - complete! and for my fellow Golden Age fans... Forever Amber - complete! Yavar P.S. Thanks for what you wrote, Peter! Also, on topic. I’m hoping to get an 80s or 90s action score out of this club batch! Here’s to hoping! Hot Shots Part Deux - complete!
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