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 Posted:   Oct 9, 2021 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

Howard, old Mate... looking forward to seeing you all tonight. I seem to have helped recruit FalkirkBairn to the group.

The Kes soundtrack was pretty short at 19mins, but it was sweet. I went on to play 3 discs of Zimmer's Dune (Soundtrack and Sketchbook). Most tracks had an Arabic / Desert feel to them but a couple seemed quite Scottish in a desolate Highlander way. Interesting but I probably wouldn't repeat play that often. No Time To Die on the other hand will likely get many plays. I liked it. Maybe not the typical Bond score but plenty of melancholy befitting the end for Craig.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2021 - 9:55 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

I'm only 31 and let me tell you, there is no lack of appreciation for the Golden and Silver Age scores. You are also not too old to be on this board. You bring a lot of life wisdom and vast knowledge of scores as I hope to be able to do 30-40 years from now. Who likes what film scores and what genres is all subjective. Each person will like things a little bit different.

Have film scores changed from how they were in the days of the 1950s, 60s, and 70s? Yes but that's not necessarily a bad thing either. I prefer scores before 2010 most of the time, but times change. Styles and culture evolves. To me, I feel sometimes things from my generation get hated on in the same way that the older generation of the 1950s/60s were stunned at how Elvis shook his hips.

Things are not going to be how they were in the 1970s. Just as in 2050 things will not be how they are today. For example. I love 80s and 90s action movie film scores. Speed, Bad Boys, The Rock, Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, Black Rain, Drop Zone, etc. Each time a movie comes out there is a part of me that hopes a movie uses the sound from The Rock. It doesn't happen all that often. But does that make me dislike what is there instead of it? No because times change.

The new generations always get ragged on for being out of touch with what's actually good music, movies, politics, etc. I am doing my best to curtail that because everything is subjective. Everything is about personal tastes. There's a reason why Zimmer is making all the money he is right now despite how polarizing he is for some in our community.

This is just my opinion on this whole thing. And as I said a few times now, all of this is subjective.

Good day everyone and remember no matter what, just keep enjoying film music and the marvelous community we have here. EVERYONE is welcomed!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2021 - 10:12 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I'm only 31 and let me tell you, there is no lack of appreciation for the Golden and Silver Age scores. You are also not too old to be on this board. You bring a lot of life wisdom and vast knowledge of scores as I hope to be able to do 30-40 years from now. Who likes what film scores and what genres is all subjective. Each person will like things a little bit different.

Thank you very much, Peter. I'm glad Golden, Silver and current age scores are appreciated, not by everyone but quite a few. I hope you do educate members 30-40 years from now.

Have film scores changed from how they were in the days of the 1950s, 60s, and 70s? Yes but that's not necessarily a bad thing either. I prefer scores before 2010 most of the time, but times change. Styles and culture evolves. To me, I feel sometimes things from my generation get hated on in the same way that the older generation of the 1950s/60s were stunned at how Elvis shook his hips.

So you know Elvis. Nice. My parents liked Elvis, but they thought the Beatles with their bowl haircuts meant the end of the world, and I loved the Beatles.

The new generations always get ragged on for being out of touch with what's actually good music, movies, politics, etc. I am doing my best to curtail that because everything is subjective. Everything is about personal tastes. There's a reason why Zimmer is making all the money he is right now despite how polarizing he is for some in our community.

Keep curtailing. You do a good job.


Good day everyone and remember no matter what, just keep enjoying film music and the marvelous community we have here. EVERYONE is welcomed!

Thank you for your wise words and insights.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2021 - 11:29 PM   
 By:   BTTFFan   (Member)

I'm only 31 and let me tell you, there is no lack of appreciation for the Golden and Silver Age scores. You are also not too old to be on this board. You bring a lot of life wisdom and vast knowledge of scores as I hope to be able to do 30-40 years from now. Who likes what film scores and what genres is all subjective. Each person will like things a little bit different.

Have film scores changed from how they were in the days of the 1950s, 60s, and 70s? Yes but that's not necessarily a bad thing either. I prefer scores before 2010 most of the time, but times change. Styles and culture evolves. To me, I feel sometimes things from my generation get hated on in the same way that the older generation of the 1950s/60s were stunned at how Elvis shook his hips.

Things are not going to be how they were in the 1970s. Just as in 2050 things will not be how they are today. For example. I love 80s and 90s action movie film scores. Speed, Bad Boys, The Rock, Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, Black Rain, Drop Zone, etc. Each time a movie comes out there is a part of me that hopes a movie uses the sound from The Rock. It doesn't happen all that often. But does that make me dislike what is there instead of it? No because times change.

The new generations always get ragged on for being out of touch with what's actually good music, movies, politics, etc. I am doing my best to curtail that because everything is subjective. Everything is about personal tastes. There's a reason why Zimmer is making all the money he is right now despite how polarizing he is for some in our community.

This is just my opinion on this whole thing. And as I said a few times now, all of this is subjective.

Good day everyone and remember no matter what, just keep enjoying film music and the marvelous community we have here. EVERYONE is welcomed!


This post should be pinned.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2021 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Won't be able to access my computer on a regular basis for a short time. Appreciate all the responses.
"I'll be back, " even if I am an oldie.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2021 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Metaluna Mutant   (Member)



Wonder who's scoring?


I want this so bad.

OPENING SHOT: various small, quiet southern town scenes.
(In Trailer Man voice VO) Jean Louise Finch was a successful lawyer always trying to do the right thing.

(Low ominous chord) But when her aged father finally tracks down the corrupt guards who murdered an innocent man, their secret can't be allowed to escape (montage of Sean Bean in wheel chair being shot, thrown out of a window, set on fire).

(AERIAL SHOT: funeral, crying woman in black kneeling at a darkened, deserted grave, FADE TO BLACK)

(VO) But when a secret from her childhood past erupts into her peaceful adult life, she realizes (ORCHESTRA STING) some rules have to be broken.
(Shot of a Southern Court House exploding, raining flames onto the town)
(VO) And childhood friends must become adult vengeance!
(Bullet Ricochet sound over quick action shot of Kristen Stewart loading a pump Shotgun with bold caption "SCOUT")
(Bullet Ricochet sound over quick action shot of Zachary Quinto rapid firing a pistol with bold caption "JIM")
(Bullet Ricochet sound over quick action shot of Toby Jones tossing a flaming Molotov cocktrail with bold caption "DILL")
(FADE TO BLACK, SILENCE)

VO: ...And sometimes, you have to break the rules.
(Fade up The Rock looking directly into the camera, with a Mockingbird Tattoo on his bare chest, oiled up, holding a shotgun, a machine gun and a scar across his face with the bold caption "BOO")
VO: "This summer, Justice comes on Mockingbird Wings"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2021 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   alintgen   (Member)

I think of the 1950s when almost every week or month there would be a new score from Waxman, Herrmann, Newman, Steiner, Rozsa, and others. Compare that to now. There is just no comparison. Film music is changing from orchestral and instrumental music to synthesized mush.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2021 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

Not sure if it's ironic or not, but the day I decided to return to the boards after many years away, this thread was posted and was the first I saw. I'm coming back after being put off by so much of the bickering and disrespectful behavior of too many members. I now come back better able to just ignore that stuff and focus on the things that give me joy and peak my interest. For me that means mostly delving into threads with topics that interest me in areas of film music that I feel a kinship too. I never understood going into a thread on a type of music or composer one doesn't like just to shout out your dislike to put others down or bolster yourself up not taking into consideration another person's tastes or likes. To me that seems to come from an insecurity of some kind, something I do understand when thinking back on my own younger self, a person with lots of insecurities in need of a status boost of some kind.

So if there area 50 threads now about music that I may not have an affinity for and only 10 of the music I do, I'll just be happy to spend time in those 10. If less people post there, that's cool. It may be that there are just less of us around now interested in that subject or the subject has been covered so many times over the years that responses to them may seem redundant to some.

As an example of how I fit into all of this, I don't care for Zimmer's style of music or those scores with the Remote Control sound imprint, so I would never go into a thread about that particular kind of music. I would have nothing useful/positive to add to the discussion and would leave it to those who do like it to share with each other. On the other hand, if it's music I do like, I will participate in a meaningful way and even at times be critical if I find something wanting, which of course will only be my opinion, nothing more.

So no, there is not "too old" in my opinion here on the boards, just different interests by different people and groups that will constantly change over time. Our numbers may change based on age over the course of the years and that is just a natural progression of things. For example, I started listening to the oldies station here 30+ years ago. It first started out with 50s and 60s music, then slowly added 70s, then 80s and now even 90s music and those 50s and 60s are almost totally gone from the format. The audience demographics have changed over time and the station changed with it. Think of those 50s and 60s as golden age and silver age in the context here and you might be able to draw a parallel. Or maybe not, but it's worth noting!

Thanks Joan for creating such a thought provoking thread. And as you can see, if you remember, I write WAY too much sometimes and I know many won't read posts this long. I know I usually don't on long Facebook posts!

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2021 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

Mark Ford, very insightful! Thank you! I read all of your post. Good stuff.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2021 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Not sure if it's ironic or not, but the day I decided to return to the boards after many years away, this thread was posted and was the first I saw. I'm coming back after being put off by so much of the bickering and disrespectful behavior of too many members.

I really do not understand this remarks since this is the way it always was since day one.

When I see people saying "Oh, remember the good old days when we get along discussing this or that" I always reply: well, that NEVER happened!

Never.

On any site, forum or group since the internet was created.

But, yes, when you get older you stop trying to argue with angry insecure people who will never listen or even understand you and simple start to get fun with it. That's what I do now and it is much more refreshing.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2021 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

While reading this, please keep in mind that I think that TKAM's score is one of the very best ever, and I think the same about the film. I love the book, but the film gets right to the crime veryquickly.

I would love to see TKAM remade as a limited series. It probably would not be as good at the original (I'm being generous her by even acknowledging the possibility), but aspects of the book not explored in the movie could be filmed, and--this is really the most important factor--other actors should have the opportunity to play these roles. Every generation offers new Hamlets and new Sherlocks. We've even seen three different actresses play Lizbeth Salander. So why not another filmic Scout? Boo Radley? Dill? Jem? Atticus?

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2021 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

Not sure if it's ironic or not, but the day I decided to return to the boards after many years away, this thread was posted and was the first I saw. I'm coming back after being put off by so much of the bickering and disrespectful behavior of too many members.

I really do not understand this remarks since this is the way it always was since day one.

When I see people saying "Oh, remember the good old days when we get along discussing this or that" I always reply: well, that NEVER happened!

Never.

On any site, forum or group since the internet was created.

But, yes, when you get older you stop trying to argue with angry insecure people who will never listen or even understand you and simple start to get fun with it. That's what I do now and it is much more refreshing.


When I first started using the boards of course there was lot of bickering and disrespectful things were going on, but as time progressed the animosity seemed to get worse to the point Lukas had to constantly shut people down, something he rarely had to do before. Of course I just got tired of it after a while which probably would have happened even if things didn't get worse in my view. I will say my experience with Facebook film music groups has been quite enjoyable. At least in the ones I am a member of there is rarely any strife or arguing or putting others down. In the rare event it happens, the moderator or other members call the person out and state that that kind of behavior isn't wanted here at which point the person either apologized or wasn't heard from again. I know that won't be the experience here so I have altered my expectations accordingly.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2021 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

When I first started using the boards of course there was lot of bickering and disrespectful things were going on, but as time progressed the animosity seemed to get worse to the point Lukas had to constantly shut people down, something he rarely had to do before.

Indeed, but this is not 100% true since most people got banned because they were bringing politics to the discussions and were mostly not from USA.

Of course the bigger the comunity get, more people will start to fight among each other and the angry insecure ones will cry to Big Brother to delete people who they can't stand.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2021 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   Guy   (Member)

An interesting thread Joan.

If folks do wish to travel back in time cinematically... I recommend the Criterion Channel, a fine selection of films on the Criterion label and other curated films with monthly focused topics.

Additionally if looking for some score inspiration going back to the 30's...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Original_Score

You can see in '62, Kill lost out to Lawrence.... personally I'm a fan of Mutiny that our FSM friends put out...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2021 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Ahem. To see a post from "Guy" on a thread like this...my oh my.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2021 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

In my early 20s a dilapidated old theater in a cool part of town was re-opened and the fare was double features for two nights each, and this went on for a couple of years. The pairings were always linked--by director, actor, theme, whatever, and frequently a newer film would be paired with an older film. Got exposed to a lot of films pre-villagardens553 and from other countries. At the same time I discovered that all of the local universities offered free films. For years I think I did nothing but go to movies and concerts. A very good grounding.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2021 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   Guy   (Member)

Ahem. To see a post from "Guy" on a thread like this...my oh my.

Not sure what you mean Howard, but I haven't been as active as I have in the past...

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2021 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Ahem. To see a post from "Guy" on a thread like this...my oh my.

Not sure what you mean Howard, but I haven't been as active as I have in the past...


Very nice to see you around again. Good man our Guy. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2021 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Ahem. To see a post from "Guy" on a thread like this...my oh my.

Not sure what you mean Howard, but I haven't been as active as I have in the past...


Guy McKone. The man's a legend in these parts. Gone before his time.

"This fella, Guy McKone—nobody in the whole world knew as much about film music as him. Nobody! I thought I knew something but I knew nothing compared to him. He was incredible—a king! He was the king of film music appreciation. Nobody else came close. He could tell you who wrote what, the year, the history, whether you had an Aunt Tilly or Cousin Rachel up in Elmira—he knew it all. And he had a way of making you feel like a million bucks just by having him respond to something you said. I mean he thought you said something neat? He was one in a million."

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2021 - 7:00 PM   
 By:   robby   (Member)

Just try selling these young whippersnappers some Rachmaninov...

 
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