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 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   MM   (Member)

Has anyone received a copy yet - is it housed in a jewel case?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Weirdly, I disagree with the "this is nothing new for Thomas Newman" statements. It's his sound, for sure, but I don't know... all his drama scores sound like different animals to me. I haven't heard him do a theme as lyrical as the one that's heard in "Rose" in quite some time... maybe since the 90s? "Vive l’Humanité" kind of reminds me of a more muted version of end of Angels In America, but without the vocals.

I guess it's true that neither of these are a total reinvention of his style, the way some of his action scores or Pixar scores have been, but I don't know... it's kind of the same as John Williams always sounding like John Williams to me. It's his act, and it's why they hired him. He's good at it.


Tolkien was accused of being nothing new when it came out too, but I can't think of any other Thomas Newman pieces that are quite like this one:




Same with Victoria & Abdul which had this:



and this:

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Both of those two you mention are absolutely brilliant. WHITE BIRD is not on that level, but still pretty good.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2024 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

To answer the questions that matter at FSM.
Yes, it's a CD.
Yes, it's a pressed CD.
Yes, it's in a jewel case.
Yes, there's a colour booklet, replete with tech credits (two conductors, orchestrations by JAC Redford, additional music by Julia Newman).
So... everyone... breathe!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2024 - 3:20 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Did I mention that my order had arrived?

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2024 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Weirdly, I disagree with the "this is nothing new for Thomas Newman" statements. It's his sound, for sure, but I don't know... all his drama scores sound like different animals to me. I haven't heard him do a theme as lyrical as the one that's heard in "Rose" in quite some time... maybe since the 90s? "Vive l’Humanité" kind of reminds me of a more muted version of end of Angels In America, but without the vocals.

Having listened to this another few times, I agree with you! It's really quite good, and while it's clearly Thomas Newman, that doesn't mean it's interchangeable with other scores of his.

I guess one of the pitfalls of having such a distinct sound is it's easy to peg the composer. But that's not something to be ashamed of. I wouldn't a Thomas Newman score to be confused with a Michael Kamen score, or a Maurice Jarre score, and on and on, and neither (as you say) would the people who hire him.

It is sometimes said on this board that a film composer should be a musical chameleon, but to me there are limits to that. If my favorite composers don't have a voice, why would I gravitate to them over and over again? Sure, Williams' War of the Worlds could not be confused with Catch Me If You Can, but if you know his music, you hear the connections. In any composer's oeuvre, there are going to be a few outliers that go farther afield from their typical sound, but even then, if you're a fan, you can spot what makes them them. To me, it is the composers who have no real style that I find less interesting.

All of which is my longwinded way of saying that White Bird is a very worthy addition to the collected works of Thomas Newman, and not one that merely duplicates what he's already done.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2024 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I think the chameleon label leveled at film composers is more about the way they can/will flit between musical styles per film, from romantic to impressionist to serial or 12 tone or jazz and on and on.
Such disparate musical styles for each writing. I think Williams himself labelled it as 'magpie'.
I actually find it amazing that the likes of Williams and Morricone can do that while incorporating their own very distinctive style or voice.
I played the first few tracks of this score last night and heard tendrils of ROAD TO PERDITION.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2024 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Anthony N.Putson   (Member)

Mine came yesterday though will be some time before I listen to it. Massive ongoing backlog.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2024 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Where is this one on sale, chaps.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2024 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I bought mine from eBay..14 quid + change.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2024 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I bought mine from eBay..14 quid + change.

Ok. I'd looked but didn't see it, at the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2024 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I've just spoke to Roy and he said it's gone from eBay now (or that in-stock cheaper edition that I managed to snag).
Looks like the early bird...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2024 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I noticed that or rather didn't. Anyway I was only thinking about it. I'll survive.

Edit- what is you opinion of his bond scores as
1. Newman efforts and
2. Bond scores.
They're going cheap

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2024 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I don't like them personally.
Dull and drab, with the odd half decent track here or there.
Low tier Thomas Newman for me.
I picked them up cheap (4 or 5 quid a piece) but I rarely play them.
The Zimmaro effort is way better.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2024 - 2:15 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I feel a track like '7/Stay Very Quiet Run Very Fast (7:38)' is why God invented The Whittle.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2024 - 3:14 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I don't like them personally.
Dull and drab, with the odd half decent track here or there.
Low tier Thomas Newman for me.
I picked them up cheap (4 or 5 quid a piece) but I rarely play them.
The Zimmaro effort is way better.


Ta. I thought they were supposed to be a bit off, that's why never bought them. As you say I saw them for 4/5 quid. Maybe I will when I feel more reckless.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2024 - 3:37 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I done a whittle (first/dry run...could change)...runs about 39 mins

1. Sara Blum (0:35)
2. Aubervilliers-aux-Bois (2:18)
3. Imagination (0:39)
4. Mlle Petitjean (0:36)
5. Rose (3:09)
6. Dress Shoes (0:57)
9. Julien Beaumier (3:18)
10. Zebra (1:19)
11. Days Weeks (1:27)
16. (Wonder Story) (2:15)
20. New York (1:39)
21. The Soul of the World (1:46)
25. Sea of Bluebells (3:13)
27. August 1944 (2:58)
28. Vivienne (0:46)
29. The End of My Story (2:42)
30. Vive l’Humanité (3:07)
31. White Bird (3:54)
32. Songbird (2:37)

I was reminded of things like PASSENGERS and SAVING MR BANKS and TOLKIEN while it played.
It's text-book Thomas Newman to me.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2024 - 2:02 AM   
 By:   laurent   (Member)

From amazon.com...Shipping Confirmation Your package will arrive by Monday, October 28.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2024 - 9:56 PM   
 By:   laurent   (Member)

My order is arrived today from amazon.com

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2024 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Nice review of this score album from James Southall of Movie-Wave:

http://www.movie-wave.net/white-bird/

 
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