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Here is what I'd love:
Debney: White Fang 2
Poledouris: The Jungle Book expanded
Kamen: The Three Musketeers expanded
Williams: Born On The Fourth Of July expanded
Fidel: True Lies expanded
Zimmer: Crimson Tide expanded
Eshkeri: Stardust expanded
Gold: Too Much, Too Soon
My guess is the Mancini, Lava, Skinner, Stein title(s) are all from the same ilk.
Stu Phillips is probably something from TV!
SCOTT
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Jan 5, 2025 - 1:55 AM
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Tobias
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Roger just added an updated list to FB:
Happy New Year! I wish you all a spectacular year filled with health and happiness. Here's who is on deck for 2025 and hopefully some of them actually get out on time: John Debney, Basil Poledouris, John Williams, Hans Zimmer, Frank Skinner, William Lava, Herman Stein, Henry Mancini, Michael Kamen, Ilan Eshkeri, Brad Fiedel, Stu Philips, Ernest Gold and possibly many others. Time will tell!
If I would be the one who decided then maybe these ones:
John Debney - Gunmen
Basil Poledouris - Harley Davidson and The Marlboro Man
John Williams - Born On The Fourth Of July
Hans Zimmer - Either Cool Runnings, A League Of Their Own or perhaps Bird On A Wire
Henry Mancini - Physical Evidence
Michael Kamen - Someone To Watch Over Me
Brad Fiedel - Striking Distance or Johnny Mnemonic (although my all time favorite unleased Fiedel score is to the TV-Movie Hostage but that will probably never happen)
The rest of the composers is composers that I am unfortunately too unfamiliar with their work so those I happy leave to other fans.
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Stu Phillips!!!! Wowww! Spider-Man 77, perhaps?
I just listed this as my #2 on the What Holy Grails Are Left thread.
“The Amazing Spider-Man TV Series 77 - nope again, Roger confirmed it at Facebook.”
Sad face.
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Great post, VeronicaMars (one of my favorite shows of all time, BTW) — cast a wide net and you’re less likely to be disappointed!
I agree that Mancini is most likely referring to Keystone Kops, but it’s also slightly possible Roger decided to be a little sneaky since I don’t notice any composer name duplicates at all here, which has happened in past years. There’s a slight chance that some composers mentioned might cover more than one release.
I am fairly certain that things like Paulie (my Debney grail!), Starship Troopers, and Hudson Hawk are permanently Varese territory — that’s what “in perpetuity” means. Of course Varese did work out a sublicensing deal with LLL half a decade ago for the two Goldsmith Planet of the Apes scores they control, so anything is possible.
The “Goldsmith two-fer re-recording” already happened this past December, produced by Leigh Phillips in Prague — and it’s actually a threefer now, with a stretch goal successfully being reached to add a third TV movie score, The People Next Door! But yes Intrada will be producing the physical CD edition of that threefer this year as announced in Leigh’s original KS video, despite Roger leaving Goldsmith’s name off his list.
Yavar
I know what purpetuity means Yavar. In your case, this can be proven wrong as you thought that Hollow Man which was released by Varese and owned by them was expanded by Intrada, same deal with Iron Will by Joel McNeely and Stripes, Dead Again, Naked Gun 2 and a half, were expanded by La-La Land and so on and so fourth. So it is possible at this point that the studios may have retrained certain scores back if they were not expanded by a certain point by the label that released it. If Varese reissues Starship Troopers they better not screw it up like they did the first time otherwise I'd welcome any other label to reissue and release all of the music again and I'm sure many here would agree with me on that point. At this point, I'm really guessing that Medicine Man or 13th Warrior (barring some type of miracle) would be done by Intrada and not Varese. It would be great if Disney licensed their scores to Varese like they did during the 1990's now it's a total crap shoot.
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Fair enough! It does seem likely that studios matter in terms of perpetuity rights, and that’s why Iron Will for example was expandable by Intrada later. Maybe The 13th Warrior and Medicine Man are also in that boat, or maybe only regular Disney films. Who knows for sure?
Yavar
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Wasn't JFK already in the works by La-La Land since at least 2016?
Sadly they never got around to it only because of the various licenses that were required to approve and probably a decision was made to pursue titles that were more accessible and easier to wrangle with. Eventually they will get around to it when this whole blockade at Warner is over.
Surely it's possible to expand JFK without the third party songs from the original album, if the songs are the cause of any licensing issues
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I called The Patriot! Let's hope we get more excellent releases, purpetuity or not!
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Wasn't JFK already in the works by La-La Land since at least 2016?
Sadly they never got around to it only because of the various licenses that were required to approve and probably a decision was made to pursue titles that were more accessible and easier to wrangle with. Eventually they will get around to it when this whole blockade at Warner is over.
Surely it's possible to expand JFK without the third party songs from the original album, if the songs are the cause of any licensing issues
The biggest problem with JFK at this moment is that WB had locked their vaults for the speciality labels.
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I imagine if John Williams WANTED something to be re-issued/expanded, HIS STANDING in the industry would have the studios bend to his wishes, regardless of some pen-pushing directives...no?
That's been my reasoning as well
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Wasn't JFK already in the works by La-La Land since at least 2016?
Sadly they never got around to it only because of the various licenses that were required to approve and probably a decision was made to pursue titles that were more accessible and easier to wrangle with. Eventually they will get around to it when this whole blockade at Warner is over.
Surely it's possible to expand JFK without the third party songs from the original album, if the songs are the cause of any licensing issues
How much music is actually missing from JFK. A substantial amount.
I dont want to go all Thor here but the JFK plays perfectly for me.
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