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 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

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So, should i bother with this one Alex? I'm undecided. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   reneintoys   (Member)

It's not limited, so I don't buy it!!!





















Kidding!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   Marlene   (Member)

PS. I'm very interested to read the liner notes. All that technical stuff excites me! And I must know how the confusion came about that Marlene mentions above. Like her, I never believed it either.

Yeah, even Randy Thornton admits to have been confused. At magicmusic.net he talks about it... I cannot wait to read his notes. Despite his earlier error he must be congratulated for making it possible:

I’ve been working to get this soundtrack out for quite some time, even alluding to it here on posts dating back to 2008 and earlier. You may remember a post I made back in 2006 explaining the reasons (as I understood them at the time) of why I was only releasing the original album master of The Black Hole – and then, only as a digital download. But sometimes, if you bang your head against a wall long enough, you can defeat that windmill! And now, the wait is over.

This is the complete soundtrack – remixed and mastered from the original 3M 32 track digital multi-tracks. I know information about these tapes has been confusing (believe me!) and many legends have sprung up about their condition, playability, or if they even still existed. But all is explained in my Producer Notes in the booklet.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   d-udo   (Member)

I ask myself, that no one recognized the mistake in the tracklist ! wink

15. Laser (1:01)*
16. Kate’s O.K. (2:49)


corrrect would be:

15: Kate's O.K. (1:01)
16: Laser (2:49)


I hope this is fixed on the CD and the cover !!

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Good point. The length of "The Laser" on the original LP doesn't match up to either length on the Intrada either:

1. Overture (02:26)
2. Main Title (01:44)
3. The Door Opens (03:35)
4. Zero Gravity (05:43)
5. Six Robots (01:56)
6. Durant Is Dead (02:29)
7. Start The Countdown (03:45)
8. Laser (02:13)
9. Into The Hole (04:52)
10. End Title (02:31)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   d-udo   (Member)

Good point. The length of "The Laser" on the original LP doesn't match up to either length on the Intrada either:

1. Overture (02:26)
2. Main Title (01:44)
3. The Door Opens (03:35)
4. Zero Gravity (05:43)
5. Six Robots (01:56)
6. Durant Is Dead (02:29)
7. Start The Countdown (03:45)
8. Laser (02:13)
9. Into The Hole (04:52)
10. End Title (02:31)


Not at all, because this track is in fact longer.
watch and listen here at 5:53 - 6:13min. (The dark strings)
then, the "Laser" cue starts. wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   FarTraveler   (Member)

"In, Through and Beyond" is not an alternate.

I wonder if it is a different edit that was used in the Disney releases of the music with dialogue on LP? E.g. quoting from Soundtrack Collector, one of the LPs is described as: "Contains phonographic adaptation of the french version with original film music by John Barry."

I owned the "Black Hole Read Along" as a kid on cassette, and the ending ties up with much more hope. It also cues different music at some scenes. It is definitely the same themes from the movie, but the themes seem to be arranged differently. See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2znTVvCMOQs

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Luigi   (Member)

It's nice to see someone who loves so much this music and then it's finally released!!!
And what a release. The samples sound just like it was recorded yesterday. Amazing!!!
Congrats Alex wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

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 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Sounds much better than the LP as I remember it.

All the familiar Barry shtick is certainly there, but the samples reinforce my previous impression that the main theme is the only truly memorable element of this score. The suspense music is often abysmally thin and repetitive, which, unfortunately, is also a Barry trademark.

Did not remember that the brass played the Overture so badly. I'm surprised Barry allowed that cut to be printed.

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Excellent! The sensation of being adrift in a sea of emptiness, mixed with both the primordial unrelenting power of the Hole and the Satanic Evil of Man.

Maybe not for everybody, yes the Hole 'entropy' can be repetitive, but then again thats one of the points... . Definitely for us Brooders.

Thank you all involved.

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

FanTAStic!

Anyone who has the album know if the Intrada tracklisting allows for a sequencing that matches the album, or are some of those cues now different?

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Conan The Blackbarian...

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Anyone who has the album know if the Intrada tracklisting allows for a sequencing that matches the album, or are some of those cues now different?

The cues "The Door Opens" and "Laser" are a bit longer than their album counterparts. In the former case, you can hear the album track fade in while the performance is in progress. And, of course, the Intrada edition is a different (but clearer) sound mix. So you can get a rough version of the album program that would be longer than the LP by about a minute or so without those edits by programming the Intrada disc.

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Josh, I agree. The LP now sounds sludgy, when compared compared to those samples.

The samples sound much brighter, dynamic and more detailed.

I always enthused about The Black Hole of course, but also had my reservations about it's true place in Barry's canon. Hearing how much more 'alive' the music sounds in these samples, I'm now much more inclined and enthusiastic to call it a 'classic' score.

Well, 2011 was the year we lost John Barry but in concerts and CD releases it's also been a year of great tribute to him.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Metaluna Mutant   (Member)

Ordered.

Wow, so many of my old grail STs have been whittled down in the last few years -- Star Trek 2 & 3, Black Hole, Conan (soon I hope) etc.


In other news, I hereby nominate BLADE RUNNER as the official "2 or 3 per week running concurrently thread" subject for FSM since BH is now out.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Dr Lenera   (Member)

Wow, this is an exciting release, I only found out my Mask CD was a **** a few weeks ago and I've had it for years. I'm keeping it because it's got some Howard The Duck music on it!

I doubt I would rate this one of Barry's top ten but certainly in his top twenty. Then again, I rather like the film too, which is surprisingly dark and atmospheric for a Disney live action effort, something which the score, apart from that controversial march theme [which I love], reinforces.

Will order on Fri when paid!

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

YOR just heard the sound samples in the Intrada site and was impressed by the power and clarity of the clips!

Marvelous job!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

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 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

I wonder how excited Alex Klein is to finally have this CD. wink

Congratulations, by the way!

 
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