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Of the younger generation of composers working in film today, could someone please provide me with a list of good composers and bad composers, so that I know whose music to listen to and whose to avoid. This is so that I don't accidentally listen to some music that I like, but which is by a bad composer. Thank you! By the way, what did Korngold, Newman, Steiner, Herrmann, Rosza think of John Williams when he nabbed assigniments for every big blockbuster?
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Of the younger generation of composers working in film today, could someone please provide me with a list of good composers and bad composers, so that I know whose music to listen to and whose to avoid. This is so that I don't accidentally listen to some music that I like, but which is by a bad composer. Thank you! By the way, what did Korngold, Newman, Steiner, Herrmann, Rosza think of John Williams when he nabbed assigniments for every big blockbuster? Most of those guys were dead or retired when Williams entered the field and he was drawing upon the same classical influences using the same techniques as those fellas so I'm sure they had no qualms. I have an early Soundtrack! Magazine interview with Alex North who lauded Williams and this was mid 80s.
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Excellent post, David. Yavar
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Of the younger generation of composers working in film today, could someone please provide me with a list of good composers and bad composers, so that I know whose music to listen to and whose to avoid. This is so that I don't accidentally listen to some music that I like, but which is by a bad composer. Thank you! By the way, what did Korngold, Newman, Steiner, Herrmann, Rosza think of John Williams when he nabbed assigniments for every big blockbuster? Most of those guys were dead or retired when Williams entered the field and he was drawing upon the same classical influences using the same techniques as those fellas so I'm sure they had no qualms. I have an early Soundtrack! Magazine interview with Alex North who lauded Williams and this was mid 80s. It was a rhetorical question, but thank you for mentioning that North did laud Williams. Oh, Williams did laud Giacchino, too...
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Of the younger generation of composers working in film today, could someone please provide me with a list of good composers and bad composers, so that I know whose music to listen to and whose to avoid. This is so that I don't accidentally listen to some music that I like, but which is by a bad composer. Thank you! By the way, what did Korngold, Newman, Steiner, Herrmann, Rosza think of John Williams when he nabbed assigniments for every big blockbuster? Most of those guys were dead or retired when Williams entered the field and he was drawing upon the same classical influences using the same techniques as those fellas so I'm sure they had no qualms. I have an early Soundtrack! Magazine interview with Alex North who lauded Williams and this was mid 80s. It was a rhetorical question, but thank you for mentioning that North did laud Williams. Oh, Williams did laud Giacchino, too... No doubt. I don't think Williams has ever uttered a nasty word in his lifetime. He's a class act. And as I mentioned earlier, Giacchino is successful for a reason no matter whether me or anyone like his music or not. It's not debatable. He's not a flash in the pan and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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Jul 16, 2017 - 7:57 AM
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And let´s be honest: if Williams started out today with no Spielberg connection, having to write scores for Michael Bay etc., he would have to adapt his style and sound very different (or quit the game). Not just Spielberg, but Lucas, too. The question is, how big was the Star Wars salient in comparison to all else, including Jaws? That question is rather academic, because if you go back all the way to King Kong, there have been scores of very notable composers. I think Giacchino is a technically astute composer, and I hope he gets checked out with more and more symphonic scores.
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Jul 16, 2017 - 8:57 AM
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Of the younger generation of composers working in film today, could someone please provide me with a list of good composers and bad composers, so that I know whose music to listen to and whose to avoid. This is so that I don't accidentally listen to some music that I like, but which is by a bad composer. Thank you! By the way, what did Korngold, Newman, Steiner, Herrmann, Rosza think of John Williams when he nabbed assigniments for every big blockbuster? Most of those guys were dead or retired when Williams entered the field and he was drawing upon the same classical influences using the same techniques as those fellas so I'm sure they had no qualms. I have an early Soundtrack! Magazine interview with Alex North who lauded Williams and this was mid 80s. It was a rhetorical question, but thank you for mentioning that North did laud Williams. Oh, Williams did laud Giacchino, too... No doubt. I don't think Williams has ever uttered a nasty word in his lifetime. He's a class act. And as I mentioned earlier, Giacchino is successful for a reason no matter whether me or anyone like his music or not. It's not debatable. He's not a flash in the pan and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.  Williams has known Giacchino for a long-time now, 20 years, the Jurassic franchise. Williams had the opportunity to score the game music but was far to busy at the time, so word around gets Giacchino his big break. John will soon retire & pass the torch to Michael, any one can see that, Hah.
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The score worked brilliantly in the film. Now enjoying listening to it a lot more as well, knowing all the context for the music. As a film series this Ape trilogy has held it's quality quite well throughout. This one probably was the weakest for me though, but I don't mean to say it's bad. The first two were just a bit better. Andy Serkis is still the MVP in this one, he just keeps you glued to the screen with his performance. It's the script which is somewhat disappointing in this, and looking at the credits, this is the only one of the three where Rick Jaffa & Amanda Silver do not get a screenplay credit (just "based on characters created by"), so maybe that's the missing ingredient.
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For 90 minutes or so, I was enjoying this in the lesser way I enjoyed DAWN (which was a step down from RISE to me, but still enjoyable/involving), but then the whole thing went SOUTH...FAST!! ****SPOILERS!!***** Like the ground the human base was built upon, holes started being punched into it with alarming frequency! The human motivation stopped making sense. The scene with the muck throwing/security guard ranks as the dumbest I've seen all year. Gollum the monkey (Bad Ape) escapades started to really throw the mood. The war was a minor skirmish at best, with a few helicopters (badly rendered, at that..one did some barnstorming that would have troubled Top Gun). Then, Caesar gets shot in the mid-riff (arrow), survives countless explosions, the mother of all avalanches and a mega trek through all terrains, to then, JUST DROP DEAD!!! At which point, Dr Zaius decides to become all chatty chimp...finally, like they ran out of subtitles! These lazy final 40 minutes completely ruined what had so far been a well drawn and compelling series. The music was good though. Really allowed to stand out and carry the film...and yes, Pure John Barry at times.
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