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 Posted:   Dec 15, 2017 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Doubling back to season three for an episode.


  • The brief action cue in the opening as Buffy practices fighting with Angel.
  • The fight music in the cemetery at night; there's more right after the opening credits.
  • The sad piano and clarinet cue when Buffy finds out her dad can't make her birthday (she turns 18 in this episode). It turns dark
  • The short little piece as Buffy looks at the present Angel has given her.
  • The piece as Buffy packs up for battle.
  • The brief action cue as Giles shows up to save Buffy.
  • The cue at the end when Giles is fired and Buffy realizes Giles loves her like a dad.

    Special Notes: there are three cues on the season three score promos.
    Parts of one of the cues is different in the episode.

    Where was that magical stone and injection when Faith needed to be hauled away?

    Angel admits to seeing and stalking Buffy before she became a Slayer and that he loved her then because he saw her heart. Angel -- the two hundred year-old guy -- admitting to stalking and loving a girl who was fourteen. Maybe thirteen. Buffy was born in 1981. She moved to Sunnydale after the events of the film and said she burned down two schools. By accident, so that means she was someplace else in between, so that's about two years probably. At best maybe she was fifteen.

    Cordelia "Oh, God -- is the world ending? I have to research a paper on Bosnia for tomorrow, but if the world's ending I'm not going to bother."

    Cordelia: "But if the world doesn't end, I'm going to need a note."

     Posted:   Dec 15, 2017 - 4:44 PM   
     By:   Kylo Ren   (Member)

    I can die happy if they release Beck's complete scores to Season 2 and 3, and also Wanker/Wander's complete score from Season 5. They have already released any highlights from Season 4 by Beck that I took an interest to in an otherwise dire Season of a great show.

    The rest I am not too bothered about personally. I wouldn't say no to a complete score release however.

     Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 3:34 AM   
     By:   ZerOne   (Member)

    I wonder if Rounder has retained the rights to any score on their releases and it those won't be on the LLLR set.

    I hope it wont be on this box set. Would much rather have brand new music smile

    I take anything I can get as long as there is a good flow to the set. I assume La La will remix everything and give your ears a whole new listening experience too. So it will not exactly be the same.

    I was just watching random Buffy clips on Youtube (that's the way I procrastinate razz) and I really want this cue from I ONLY HAVE EYES FOR YOU too:

    I am really pumped for this set. Only half a month and then La La La should be ready for some announcements, I think.

    He didn't want to do TV anymore -- he wanted to become a film composer. I suspect he was already getting an assignment or two at the time and his attention was divided.

    Creatively, I honestly don't understand why he wouldn't want to do Buffy, because that show was so diverse and gave him the opportunity to do so many different styles, but I guess, the appeal of always having an orchestra and earning more money (and a reputation in features) was too strong.

    you're starting to really make me feel that a 4 disc set isn't going to be nearly enough to capture all the musical riches of this show. I guess we'll just have to make sure it sells well enough that LLL considers doing a second volume!

    Of course we have to wait and see what is actually included on the set, but I think it will include the major highlights of the series, so I am not sure if a second set will actually be needed. However, I hope the set will do well enough for them to consider a set for ANGEL as well. The soundtrack that they released 12 years ago mostly included music from the first three seasons, but Kral and company also did some really great work for seasons 4-5.

     Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 4:41 AM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    big grin

     Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 5:33 AM   
     By:   jb1234   (Member)

    Creatively, I honestly don't understand why he wouldn't want to do Buffy, because that show was so diverse and gave him the opportunity to do so many different styles, but I guess, the appeal of always having an orchestra and earning more money (and a reputation in features) was too strong.

    I also have to imagine that the deadlines were murder. Buffy required a great deal of music in each episode and programming samples to sound halfway okay takes much longer than it would to record the music with an orchestra. Writing film scores probably seems like a vacation in comparison (especially comedies, which he mostly started out doing).

     Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 2:09 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    "This Year's Girl"

  • The opening cue with piano and the following tense stuff as we see Faith in the hospital.
  • Faith's dream about having a pick nick with the Mayor and then Buffy killing him.
  • The cue for Faith wondering the hospital hall and learning she's been out for a while. More a little later as Faith looks at the demolished school. The material is close to stuff from "Hush".
  • The tender piano and strings piece as Buffy talks to Riley in her dorm.
  • The cue as Faith and Buffy fight and Faith runs away from the police.
  • The bold brass cue as the Watcher's Council men arrive via helicopter; and the low-key brass and strings piece as Faith roams the street.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD features one cue from the episode score.

    Parts of Faith's End are re-used in the fight at the end. Sounds like some sweeteners were added and a little bit of new material here and there.

    Willow: "Don't worry, we're sure to spot Faith first; she's like this cleveagy slut bomb walkin' around going, 'Oh, check me out -- I'm wicked cool, I'm five by five'..."
    Tara: "Five by five? Five by what, five what...?"
    Willow: "See? That's the thing -- no one knows."

    Spike: "Is this bird after you?"
    Xander: "Yeah, in a bad way."
    Spike: "I'll tell you what I'll do then: I'll head out, find this girl, tell her exactly where all of you are, and then watch as she kills you."

    "Who Are You?"

  • Tara telling Willow she's hers. Leading to the militaristic material as the Watcher's Council men forcefully take Faith from the police.
  • The short harp and clarinet piece in the alley when Faith kills the vampire as Buffy, and lady thanks her for her help.
  • The harp and woodwinds piece as Tara tells Willow about a spell. It's a long cue with some dark-ish material, then then more mysterious strings work as Tara and Willow cast their spell.
  • The militaristic action cue as Buffy as Faith escapes from the Watcher's Council men.
  • The fight music in the church as Faith as Buffy is fighting the vampires; it plays around with the Faith's End material. Clever composer.
  • The short forlorn piece with piano, strings and harp as we see Faith on a train heading away.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD features one cue from the episode score.

    It's really quite beautiful the way things are handled; throwing the monkey rench that is Faith into the mix, long after the events of season three have passed, and how it shows Faith how different life really is when you aren't a murderous baddie.

    Giles: "If you are Buffy, you'll let me tie you up without killing me."


  • The short fun cue with congas, a shaker and a cello bass as the gang practices in Jonathan's fake reality where they are all under his spell.
  • A couple of minutes later, Beck's take on some playful spy material, followed by his own take on James Bond-like action material.
  • The James Bond-ish low key stuff as Jonathan comes across Spike.
  • The officer addressing the Initiative.
  • More James Bond-ish light material as Jonathan is trying to help a girl and get the description of the monster that attacked her.
  • The cue as Jonathan is looking at a fire. Still lonely even when people know and like him under his spell.
  • the material as Tara is being attacked.
  • The cue as Buffy is walking, then looking through Xander's stuff.
  • The cue for Buffy getting Jonathan to go out and hunt the demon. There's a couple of lulls, some low key stuff, then more Bond-ish light stuff.
  • The fight music in the cave. Regular BtVS fight music mixed with the Bond-ish light fight material.
  • The material as Buffy and Jonathan talk after the every thing is over. And it continues as Buffy and Riley make out and the episode ends.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    Anya: "Xander ... let's go have sex now."
    Xander: "Yeah."

    Giles: "Xander, don't speak Latin in front of the books." (after Xander reads from a magic book and it catches fire)

    "Where the Wild Things Are"

  • The fight music for Buffy and Riley battling a vampire and demon in the cemetery. Also has a plucky end.
  • The off kilter cue with harp and woodwinds and a stock female vocal right after the commercial. Vaguely "Hush"-ish. It transitions into some tender piano and woodwinds, then some mystery.
  • I actually like the ice cream truck music box-like piece (Xander's job). I wonder if Beck created it.
  • The lightly dramatic Buffy and Riley doing it music.
  • The mystery cue as Willow is walking around the bathroom.
  • The tense cue as the frat house shakes.
  • The cue for Willow's spell; harp, mysterious wordless female vocals.
  • The whole battle against the children spirits piece.

    Special Notes: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.
    There's a briefly tracked cue from a prior season used as Willow and Xander run upstairs to try and get Buffy. There's original material around it, so it makes me think Beck scored the scenes but whatever he did was replaced.

    Giles singing and playing guitar.

    That was a fast contradiction. Giles is surprised vampires and demons are working together, that demons has no regards for vampires and consider them abominations. Just episodes ago, as I noted, a demon told Spike the demon code is what kept him from killing Spike.

    Anya is one to speak about their relationship. She forced herself upon Xander, made no effort other than wanting to have sex with him, then complains/whines when she doesn't get enough sex. I know this is Whedon's take on men, but imagine if a men really did that. Geez.

    Buffy: "Okay, you get 'fang' and I'll get "horny'. I mean..."

    "New Moon Rising"

  • The soft romantic piano, warm strings and a little harp cue as Willow and Tara talk, that opens the episode. It's short though (I really wish that had been longer).
  • The brief fight music in the cemetery. I just enjoy it. There's another brief bit minutes later; might make a good end tag to this.
  • The cue that starts as Buffy tells Riley they just don't talk about something right now, followed by tender music for Oz and Willow. Yeah, Oz came back.
  • Another soft tender cue for Willow and Oz as they talk on a bed.
  • The cue as Willow talks to Tara about the situation with her and Oz.
  • Oz confronting Tara and the chase music right after the commercial.
  • The material as Buffy and the gang are sneaking around the Initiative to rescue Oz and Riley.
  • Strings piece as Buffy confesses to Riley her past, and Willow and Oz saying good-bye (bringing in some harp and clarinet). I never really latched onto the Willow/Oz love theme -- is this it? Anyway, the cue continues with more soft material for Willow and Tara. It closes out the episode.

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    And people say there wasn't as much good material in season four. Horse hockey.

    There was zero lead way into Willow becoming a lesbian; no believable transition, so the whole being with Tara over Oz thing, just sucks. Plus, Oz was a superior character. Willow also comes out to Buffy.

    Boy, Buffy got over Angel pretty quickly.

    Man, college really took a backseat. No more of those pesky classes and work issues. Also, the college has become super quiet and barely any people roaming it, as opposed to the huge amount of people earlier on.

    It's one of those shows. If you want to be in it, you got to realize at some point or points will be completely naked.

    One of the good things about TV shows and budgets is the producers and writers have to get creative and it often leads to ideas better than a no-holds barred approach. When Whedon years ago start the new seasons of the series only in comic form, the lack of restraint shows. Places all over the world, big events, people flying, and with no actors and actresses to work with he had more free reign. One of the things he decided to do, was make buffy bisexual; yeah, I'm sure Sarah would have had something to say about that had this been filmed. I've not read up, but I'm really really hoping she didn't get it on with Willow.

    Willow: "No, there's 'woo' and 'hoo'."

    "The Yoko Factor"

    Angel makes a cameo.

  • The cue as Buffy lies down on her dorm bed alone; the cue as Xander tells Riley about Angel, would fit in nicely with this cue. They could probably be edited together without notice. Maybe the material in a similar vein but more sad sounding, for Spike talking to Giles, could be added; not sure. There's a brief bit when Riley tells Buffy he has to go; if the first two cues don't combine well, maybe this can be used to bridge them. Reminds me of the slow soft strings cues in many episodes of the series "In the Heat of the Night".
  • The frantic fight music and running away music as Buffy fails to take on Adam.
  • The material as Riley goes to help Initiative men calling out for back up.
  • Riley and Angel fighting. Riley -- the jealous boyfriend.
  • The soft strings and piano cue as Buffy and Angel talk.
  • The cue as Buffy and Riley talk after her talk with Angel. For some reason Beck re-uses -- briefly -- material back from season three from between Buffy and Angel (not the love theme).

    Special Note: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.

    More Giles singing and playing the guitar.

    Xander got fired from Starbucks and a phone sex line. Two jobs we never saw before or heard referenced until now.

    Willow has a cat now.
    CinemaSins: "Agh! Sudden cat is sudden!"

    Anya: "He's a Viking in the sack." (about Xander)

    Angel: "You actually sleep with this guy?"


  • The warm strings and piano cue as Buffy and Willow make up in the elevator shaft.
  • The music as Adam begins his attack by cutting the power.
  • The action material in the Initiative that isn't tracked, after the tracked stuff.
  • Buffy fighting Adam, mimicking the Faith's End cue. Probably temp tracked with it. It's a long cue. Maybe ten minutes in length.

    Special Notes: the Rounder Records score CD does not feature any score from this episode. None of the online special bonus tracks (four) are from this episode either.
    The battle in the Initiative with Buffy telling Willow to find Adam, is tracked from a prior season. I can't recall what and what episode off hand at the moment. I wonder if this was a conscious decision to track it or if Beck recorded something that was replaced.
    There's also another short bits tracked bit after the commercial break when Riley's friend is trying to kill Buffy. It's from "The Wish" (season three; the climax battle music). It's sandwiched in between new material, including stuff mimicking it.

    Xander: "Does anybody else miss the Mayor? I just want to be a big snake."


    This episode must have confused the fans. The previous one was the big finale a season would end on, then it comes back and does ... this.

  • The cue as Willow and Tara talk in the dream.
  • The cue as Xander talks to Joyce
  • The cue as Xander finds some of the gang at a children's playground.
  • Another cue during the same scene with the wordless real female vocals.
  • The percussion cue in the ice cream truck.
  • Another percussion cue as Xander is trying to get away from the unknown creature pursuing him.
  • The weird cue for Giles following the cord to the back and getting attacked.
  • The cue that begins Buffy's dream. A familiar piano theme is heard.
  • And the short piano and strings cue that closes it the episode out. That familiar theme is used again.

    Special Notes: Between the Rounder CD and the online bonus cues, there were six cues released. I assume the suite on the musical CD has extra material.
    Part of a cue on the suite on the musical CD, is removed. Also, another part removed from a cue on the suite as well.

    We see what is supposed to be Xander's dad.

    Willow: "It's like you're blackmailing the government. In a patriotic way."

    Xander: "Sometimes I think about two women doing a spell, and then I do a spell all by myself."

    Willow: "I'm very seldom naughty."

    Anya: "Quiet -- you'll miss the humorous conclusion."

    And that concludes season four.

    If I am lucky, I might finish season five and six by December 22. If I got time, I might, just might, do the two or three episodes Douglas Romayne Stevens scored in season seven, since he's rarely talked about and I want to see if there is material to be wanted. It's been too long to recall anything.

     Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 6:26 PM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    Great overview of season 4! cant wait to read your take on Thomas Wanker's work!

    And yes, that cue you hear as Oz and Willow says goodbye in the van is indeed their love theme.
    First heard in Graduation Day, part 1 (twice), then briefly again in part 2.
    I love this version/cue from the van. When it's finally time to say goodbye, Beck made it sound like this was ACTUALLY the last time they see each other. A real goodbye. So sad and beautiful! And I love how it goes straight into Willow and Tara's love theme as soon as Willow knocks on Tara's door to tell her that she's the one.
    I also love the Willow/Oz cue earlier in the episode when Oz takes Willow out to look at the full moon.
    A happy version of the theme.

    And I really want a complete score of Restless! I want it all! razz

     Posted:   Dec 18, 2017 - 3:11 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    Thomas Wanker is now the composer.

    Beck moved on to score films. He had suggested Danny Lux as a replacement, but for some reason that didn't pan out.

    Wanker did employ something Beck didn't -- tone pyramids. Rare though.

    Sadly, there's been zero to listen to outside the episodes. No promos or bootlegs with Wanker's material, and no cues on his site or the agency which represents him. DVD rips of cues and one guy on Youtube who re-creates some, are all that is available.

    "Buffy vs. Dracula"

  • The cue that opens the episode with exciting fast-paced chase music and brass work not far from Beck's work.
  • The next cue, which also brings in Dracula.
  • The vamp' fightin' action music.
  • The soft strings and brass piece when Buffy wakes up and checks her neck out.
  • The music that begins as the sun is setting and Xander takes Buffy to Dracula.

    Would melodic staccato brass be a good way to describe what Wanker was doing there?

    I don't know what's wrong with the actor who plays Xander, but something is wrong with him. Is he drinking? Drugging? Something is not right.

    Neck cleavage.

    Dracula said he has searched the world over for Buffy. Why? He already said she is known the world over, so asking anybody would have given him her location.

    Dracula returned in the Whedon season comics.

    Buffy: "There was no penetration. Cross my heart."

    Dracula: "You are strange and off putting. Go now." (to Xander)

    Xander: "Where is he?! Where's the creep who turned me into a spider-eating man-bitch?!"

    Xander: "I'm finished being everybody's butt-monkey!"

    "Real Me"

  • The opening training music, with strange warm synth tones and a wordless female vocal, emulating Beck's work to the season four finale, "Restless".
  • The fight music as Harmony's attacks Xander.
  • The playful stuff as Harmony complains to her minions. And a few minutes later a short bit that could act as an end tag.
  • The short cue as Dawn is kidnapped, showcasing the counterpoint material Wanker would use in cues throughout season five and six.
  • The fight piece as Buffy battle's Harmony's gang; brass growls, quick melodic trumpet.
  • The closing Thomas Newman-ish piece.

    Whedon is still heavily into foreshadowing, and paralleling real life in story telling. There was a ton in season two and three, not as much in season four.

    They didn't spend any time having Dawn have a crush on Xander. She's only fourteen.
    In the Whedon season comics, they eventually hooked up and even live together.

    You just wanna slap the shut out of Dawn, don't you? Only a little over half way into her first episode.

    Buffy: "Giles, are you breaking up with your car?"
    Giles: "Well, it did seduce me. All red and sporty."
    Buffy: "Little two-door tramp."

    Vampire: "I had to get her something -- she sired me."
    Another Vampire: "Sire whipped."

    Giles: "I watched 'Passions' with Spike. Let us never speak of it."

    "The Replacement"

  • The plucky cue as Dupli-Xander arrives at work (no longer the ice cream truck, now a construction worker).
  • More as Xander attacks Dupli-Xander. It continues after the commercial break. It's not as fun as Beck's plucky stuff, but it'll do.

    We hear Xander's parents fighting upstairs.

    Xander's parents or Xander (unspecified) now has a cat.
    CinemaSins: "Agh! Sudden cat is sudden!"

    So, he/they have one, Willow has one, Faith apparently had one...
    CinemaSins: "And you get a cat! And you get a cat! And you get a cat!"

    How big is Sunnydale where Buffy and Riley in Riley's car can't get to Xander's place with his car pushing 70 MPH? I always got the impression it wasn't that big, especially seeing the giant crater in the series finale.

    We've all seen glowing eyes and skin before on villains, but I think this may be the first time I've seen glowing teeth.

    Xander: "But I never help. I get in trouble and Buffy saves me."
    Willow: "That's not true; sometimes we all help to save you."

    Giles: "Also, we should continue to pretend we heard none of the disturbing sex talk." (speaking of Anya wanting to take both Xander's home and have sex with them)

    "Out of My Mind"

  • The opening cue where it sounds like Wanker is taking ideas from "Hush".
  • The short brass cue as Riley fights Initiative men.
  • The slow piano piece as Buffy and Riley have a serious relationship talk underground. I don't know if it was intention, but around the end it sounds like he used a theme from Beck.
  • The fight music between Buffy, Spike, Riley and Harmony.
  • Spike's nightmare dream about making out with Buffy.

    Spike: "Harmony ... is it a sodding bread box?"

    Willow: "Okay, I tinkered with the Tinker Bell."

    Willow: "Oh, poor Buffy's brain."

    Buffy: "Thank you guys so much. You're like my fairy godmother, 'n' Santa Claus, 'n' Q all wrapped up into one."
    She sees Riley looking at her a little confused.
    Buffy: "Q from Bond, not Star Trek."

    Harmony: "Can you help with the thinking?"

    "No Place Like Home"

    I'm just reminded of what a good villain the Mayor was. You can say what ever you want about the Trio, they're way better than this.

  • The music as the monks are running for their lives, with low guttural male vocals and church bells are in the mix.
  • The dreamy cue as Buffy uses a spell to spot hidden magic and finds out something isn't right about Dawn. Mysterious and creepy sound design, wind chimes, and other stuff.
  • The short bit as Buffy leaves her house and encounters Spike.
  • Buffy encountering Glory. There's more a minute or two later.

    I don't get it. Why isn't Buffy killing Spike? In the previous episode he tried to get his chip removed and kill her. And it nearly cost Riley is life. She even says he's out-lasted his welcome and it's time to kill him.

    Buffy can take a fall from a third story window onto her back.

    Giles: "It appears to be paranormal in origin."
    Willow: "How can you tell?"
    Giles: "Well, it's so shiny."

    Buffy: "What are you doing here? Five words or less."
    Spike: "Out, for, a, walk. Bitch."


  • The fight music as Buffy beats up on Spike to work off tension. In Spike's day dream.
  • The attack cue in the Magic Box. It begins shortly before though, with some nice material.

    We find out Buffy's dad is in Spain, living with his secretary.

    Buffy: "Your definition of narrow is impressively wide."

    "Fool for Love"

  • The strings work for William (Spike) back before he became a vampire, wandering the streets tearful and angry.
  • Spike killing his first Slayer during the Boxer Rebellion in 1900 China. Some Chinese flavors briefly, as well as a stock ethnic woodwind (same one Mark Snow used in a cue on The Truth and the Light).
  • And the music after the commercial break when Drusilla finds Spike over the dead Slayer's body. And making out and walking with Drusilla as the Boxer Rebellion goes on around them, ending with male and female chanting with brass in a slow-mo shot of Spike walking.
  • Riley in super-pissed off mode taking out a den of vampires. Followed by Spike teaching Buffy the second lesson on his he killed two Slayers. Also featuring a cool cue with percussion and electric guitar chicka-chicka-ing; it's a long cue. Here's an edit with two scenes of killing slayers (with a short beginning from season two):
  • Buffy going outside to cry music, with Spike comforting her; piano, strings and woodwinds.

    Buffy: "You think we're dancing?"
    Spike: "That's all we've ever done."

     Posted:   Dec 19, 2017 - 6:03 AM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    "Out of My Mind"
    The slow piano piece as Buffy and Riley have a serious relationship talk underground. I don't know if it was intention, but around the end it sounds like he used a theme from Beck.

    He did reuse Beck`s Buffy/Riley love theme!
    He must have been told to. Would be silly anyway to create a new love theme for them with only half a season left of the relationship.

    It is also very heavily (and amazingly) used in Into The Woods. smile

     Posted:   Dec 19, 2017 - 2:16 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)


  • The piece with strings and a tiny bit of piano as Riley covers Dawn with his coat, as she's sleeping in the hospital and Buffy gets news from the doctor.
  • Buffy and Glory battling in the ... what ever that place is.
  • The montage cue with piano as we see Buffy, Dawn and Riley separately.
  • Followed immediately by music for the giant snake on the hunt. I hope these two cues were recorded separately and not combined. There's some brief action stuff as the snake is in the Magic Box that can be combined with the first bit and then the chase and fight music can be added on. Then more action stuff and fight music, leading way to some softer releases material with brass and strings. This chunk of stuff is music that original attracted me to Wanker's efforts for the show and wanting them. They just lend themselves to being edited together, except maybe the last bit which has some softer stuff at the beginning.

    Dregg (minion): "Ow! Thank you." (after getting hit in the head with a shoe from Glory)

    Xander: "Just once I'd like to run into a cult of bunny worshippers."

    "Listening to Fear"

  • Riley and the Scooby Gang battling vampires, on patrol duty for Buffy.
  • The piece for Willow and Tara on the roof in sleeping blankets watching the stars. About three minutes later there's some more; kind of reminds me of some soft Trek film stuff. Then it turns into some X-Files-ish synth stuff with some piano.
  • The soft stuff as Buffy talks to Dawn in Dawn's bedroom.
  • The battle upstairs with the alien demon. And then downstairs a few minutes later there is more.

    Before there was nuBruce Jenner, there was...

    Willow: "I don't wanna be the one that finds the bodies anymore."

    "Into the Woods"

  • The piano and strings piece for Buffy and Riley gettin' it on, followed by some low-key mystery material as Spike follows Riley.
  • The piece as Spike leads Buffy to Riley. Maybe about four minutes in length. If you like moody mysterious-sounding material, this should be up your alley.
  • The cue as Buffy runs to catch Riley before he flies away:

    Looking up Riley on the BtVS wiki, he does come back. It appears most people, even insignificant people, never die and if they leave, they come back.

    Buffy: "And I'm sure he'll come over later looking for a little ... Bible study."

    Anya: "Have a nice day. Don't get killed."

    I had to skip "Triangle" (no load found)


  • The fight music as Buffy takes out her college emotional aggression on a vampire.
  • The Thomas Newman-ish piece as the Watcher's Council men are questioning Buffy's friends.
  • The percussion training music.

    Spike, Dawn and Joyce watching "Passions" together.

    Giles: "You all stand around and look somber." (to Watcher's Council people)

    Glory: "Sweet lumpy minion."

    Joyce: "I love what you've neglected to do to the place."

    "Blood Ties"

  • The cue as Dawn talks Spike into breaking into the Magic Box and then break in.
  • The piano and strings piece as Dawn wanders around alone.
  • The Scooby Gang fighting Glory in the E.R.

    So ... why is Dawn walking around alone outside (yeah, she said she went to school, but who was protecting her then and from there to the Magic Box?)? She's supposed to be hiding with her mom at Spike's place. And why did Willow and Tara put a protection spell around the Summers' house? Only Buffy is there now and Glory already said Buffy is alive because she hasn't found the Key yet. I think the writers got confused. It certainly can't be an out-of-order episode showing, since Willow and Tara put that protection spell on the Summers' house.

    It's been six months since the season five premiere. There's been some serious gaps in there, since some episodes take place back-to-back.

    Buffy: "Conversations over, Hell bitch."


  • The piece as Spike is telling Dawn a scary story about something he's done in the past.
  • The piece as Spike confesses his love to Buffy.
  • The piece as Buffy goes looking for Spike in his den.
  • Spike fighting Harmony. It's a bad break up.

    Wanker's material for Drusilla is more in line with Clement & Murray's.

    Oh, Harmony is still there. What has she been doing all these episodes?

    Vampires make Jiffy Pop.

    Why can't Spike come in Buffy's house? He's already been invited and he was in there earlier in the episode. He was in there in previous episodes, too.

    Xander: "Hey, ah, Evil Dead -- you're in my seat." (to Spike)

    Buffy: "Let's hear the story Spike is telling my little sister," folding her arms and looking quite pissed off.
    Spike: "Right ..... yeah ... so, ah, I knew the girl was in the coal bin 'n' I rip it open very violent, haul her out of there and then I give her to a good family, and a nice home, where they're never ever mean to her and didn't lock her in a coal bin."

     Posted:   Dec 19, 2017 - 5:21 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    "I Was Made to Love You"

    The introduction of Warren.

  • The fight material as April Bot attacks Buffy:
  • The music as April Bot and Buffy sit on swings and talk:

    One day, the evil robot overlords who overthrow us, enslaved us, then kill us, and will look back and laugh at this episode.

    Talk about shock endings. This must have horrified fans at the time.

    Xander: "I'm alive. I can tell because of the pain."

    Spike: "Trolling for your next ex?" (to Buffy at a party)

    "The Body"

    There is no score. Or songs. Or anything.

    CinemaSins: "Agh! Sudden Dawn friend is sudden!"
    And disappears as suddenly.


  • The funeral music.
  • A reprise of the funeral music as Angel comforts Buffy, with a surprise, although brief, appearance of Beck's Buffy/Angel love theme.
  • Dawn going through the magic book
  • The music for Dawn stealing stuff from the Magic Box then trying the spell at night

    Anya: "I am unthreatened. Proceed."


  • The warm synth pads and dudak piece as Buffy roams the desert with a spirit guide.
  • The brief battle music with Glory's minions.
  • More warm synth pads and dudak as Buffy's spirit guide talks to Buffy at a camp fire.
  • Spike escaping from Glory's minions and the fight music.
  • The soft closing cue.

    Buffy: "Weird love's better than no love."

    Buffybot: "Darn your sinister attraction."

    Buffybot: "Isn't it a beautiful night for killing evil things?"

    I have more time in the following days, that why I think I can wrap things up before I'm offline Friday.

     Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 11:14 AM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    "Tough Love"

  • Glory telling her minions about the Key and that it's time to collect it.
  • The cue as Buffy tells Dawn that if she can't take care of her, they'll take Dawn away, followed by some strings and piano for Willow and Tara separated (no SFX).
  • The piece as Willow runs to save Tara.
  • The piece as Glory is torturing Tara. And the piece immediately after the commercial break as Willow tries to get to Tara before Glory brain fucks her.
  • The piece as Dawn talks to Spike.
  • The piece as Willow runs into the Magic Box and rummages through it.
  • Buffy and Willow battling Glory music.

    Anya: "Well, now that came out a lot more lesbian than it sounded in my head."


  • The opening action cue battling and running away from Glory.
  • The long chase by and battle from the knights cue. Another of the cues that stood out for me when I watched season five originally.

    Sooo ... what happened to that knight that tossed the spear threw the windshield? One scene he does that and the bus crashes, then the next after the commercial break they're walking free without being attacked by him.

    Anya: "Whose up for some tasty fried meat products?"

    Willow: "Don't hit the horsies!"
    Buffy: "We won't," to Willow; then to Giles, "Aim for the horsies."

    "The Weight of the World"

  • The piano and strings cue as Willow prepares to talk to a comatose Buffy, followed by the airy mystery material as Willow is in Buffy's mind, and Spike is investigating Glory's place.
  • Spike and Xander fighting the old demon man.

    Ben said he has a job. Ah, no, he doesn't. He was fired in the last episode.

    So, how come when Glory transforms into Ben, Ben is wearing her cloths but not the make up and lipstick?

    "The Gift"
    By: Christophe Beck

  • Buffy's speech to the gang about how Dawn is more than the Key.
  • The weird cue for Ben trying to get Dawn to chance her cloths.
  • The cue as Buffy talks to Giles and says she'll quit.
  • The soft piece with piano as Xander talks to Anya.
  • The cue as everybody is preparing.
  • The cue as they arrive at the tower.
  • That short stinger with Buffy tells Glory to "Come and get it..."; always liked that short and simple thing.
  • The big battle; brass, strings, snare drum. Action, drama, some tender stuff.
  • The cue as the portal opens and things are going to hell.

    Special Note: between the Rounder Records score CD and the musical CD, four cues from this episode plus one alternate, are available.

    Spike: "Why don't you go think outside the bleedin' box?"

    Giles: "We few ... we happy few."
    Spike "We band of buggered."

    And so ends season five. The series was cancelled. Another network (then called the WB) somehow managed to get the series and it came back for another two seasons.

    Be back later with season six.

     Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 3:15 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    SEASON 6

    Except for the musical episode, Wanker scored all this season. I will be skimming the musical episode to find any score missing from the one or tow pieces on the musical soundtrack from Rounder Records. I remember there being very very little scoring.

    "Bargaining: Part I"

    I had to skip Part II (no load found)

  • The opening chase and fight music with a vampire, using ideas from Willow Kills _____ cue later on in the season (I'll just leave that spoiler free).
  • Buffybot fighting the vampire in the alley.
  • The cue as Dawn walks around the house at night and sees Buffybot re-charging.
  • The cue as Willow calls forth the blessed one for the resurrection spell.
  • The cue as Giles says good-bye to the Scooby Gang.
  • The cue for the vampire motorcycle gang riding into town.
  • More of that and some material for Willow doing the resurrection spell.

    Giles: "I'm fine ... I just need to die for a minute."

    Spike: "Oh, poor Watcher. Has you life passed before your eyes? Cup of tea, cup of tea, almost got shagged, cup of tea."

    Anya: "I'll take really good care of your money."

    "After Life"

  • The piece as Dawn is cleaning up the resurrected Buffy.
  • The piece as Willow and Tara talk in bed/Buffy walks around her dark bedroom (Wanker manages to use a synth female vocal sound Beck used in some cues).
  • The short Thomas Newman-ish piece as Dawn leaves the house for school.
  • The cue as Buffy explains to Spike where she was when she was dead.

    Wait -- when did Spike ever have to claw his way out of a coffin? He was sired while alive and was never buried. Maybe the writers were once again confused.

    Willow: "Okay, what in the frilly heck is going on?"


  • The cue for Anya and Xander kissing.
  • The battle music with the demon in the bank.
  • Buffy battling the demon in her house.
  • The music for the Trio plotting against Buffy.

    When did Jonathan become evil like this? There was literally zero indication.

    Dawn: "That's a weird place for a horn," closes the book on demons, "...that's not a horn."

    I had to skip "Life Serial" (no load found)

    "All the Way"

  • The music as Buffy walks around on Halloween. Wanker uses part of the piano theme from Beck's cue Sacrifice (from "The Gift").
  • Giles fighting the vampire in the cemetery. There's a brief lull.
  • The closing cue where Willow uses a spell against Tara.

    Giles: "Mist ... cemetery ... Halloween. This should end well."

    Random Vampire (to Buffy): "Ah, excuse me -- can we fight now?"

    "Once More, with Feeling"
    By: Christophe Beck

    The musical episode.
    This is Christophe Beck's final contribution to the series.

  • The orchestral arrangement of the Nerf Herder theme.
  • The opening piece as everyone is waking up. Almost SFX free.

    Beck is listed as an arranger for the songs, so I wouldn't be apposed to music-only versions of the songs (like the parking ticket music).

    There was barely anymore score. A short cue for a cue getting burned to death and the lack-luster jazzy end credits was all I remember not listing (not counting the cue on the musical CD).

    And was the birth of "Spuffy".

    Anya: "I got a theory, it could be bunnies."

    Buffy: "What else would I want to pump you for? I really just said that, didn't I?"

    Buffy: "So ... Dawn's in trouble. It must be Tuesday."

     Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 9:24 PM   
     By:   Gomephrus   (Member)

    Any idea guys, about when we might get an announcement and track listing for the set?

     Posted:   Dec 21, 2017 - 2:55 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    "Tabula Rasa"

  • The short cue when Willow casts her forget spell.
  • The piece as Buffy speaks and the spell finally hits. And the cue immediately after the commercial break when they wake up.
  • The vampire attack on the Magic Box.
  • The piece as they run from the Magic Box and then the music immediately after the commercial break (heck, could probably be combined into one cue).
  • Running in the sewers and fighting the Shark's men while Anya can't stop using magic spells that just create more bunnies and bad magic.

    Spike: "Bloody hell. Sodding, blimey, shagging, nickers, bullocks, oh God now -- I'm English."

    Spike reads the inside of some cloths he stole.
    Spike: "Made with care for Randy," reading the inside of some cloths he stole, "Randy Giles? Why not just call me Horny Giles or Desperate for a Shag Giles."

    Buffy: "I'm like a superhero or something."


  • The music as Willow talks to Amyrat.
  • The music as the Trio are stealing an item from a museum.
  • The cue as Buffy goes investigating at the museum; an atypical approach for the series.
  • The fight music for Buffy and Spike going at it.
  • More fight music between the two.
  • Yet more fight music, leading to the pent up "Spuffy" energy finally exploding.

    Amyrat as been de-ratted and is now Amy. Amy is also another character who returned in the Whedon season comics. I don't get the what her motivation is, but suffice to say she wasn't the only person to return from the series. And season six. And I'm not talking about Andrew.
    Amy being a rat was Amy's fault.

    Warren: "Okay, the security system here is a guy named Rusty."

    Spike: "Help me out here, Spock, I don't speak Loser."


  • The piece as Willow goes to her bedroom to lay down alone.
  • The cue as Amy leads Willow to a secret magic place.
  • The piece as Willow inflates some cloths to cuddle with since she's alone and has nobody to be with: (this rip is a little loud, you may need to turn down the volume)
  • The cue as Dawn waits for Willow, and Willow is on her magic high.
  • The chase music as Willow and Dawn run away from the magic-summoned demon.
  • Maybe the next cue right after the commercial, but I think some of it is tracked from a previous episode.

    Rex: "You taste like strawberries..."

    Dawn: "Are you kidding me? It feels like a meat party in my mouth!"


  • The brief opening magical cue.
  • The strings and piano cue as Buffy cries and cuts her hair.
  • The cue as invisible Buffy goes around having some fun. Over four minutes long. A little Thomas Newman-y sounding.
  • Invisible Buffy fighting the invisible Trio.

    Why wouldn't Buffy just call Spike "William" in front of the Social Services lady?

    So, the security guard was just going to stand there silently while Buffy and Willow ignore him? How convenient.

    I can hear that CinemaSins guy now: "Awesome, that super convenient and probably extremely useful invisibility gun should come in handy frequently for the rest of the series! What's that? It'll never be seen or used again? Well, fuck."

    Jonathan: "You penis!"
    Warren: "Oh, cheer up, Frodo."

    "Doublemeat Palace"

  • The cue as Buffy is shown around her new job at Doublemeat Palace.
  • More Thomas Newman-y stuff as Buffy is looking around Doublemeat Palace.
  • More mystery Newman-y music as Buffy punches in and the boss talks to her and she learns to cook.
  • The cue as Buffy faces off against the Doublemeat Palace killer
  • The cue as Buffy gets her job back.

    Wow. A restaurant with not only a break room, but employee lockers. Next you'll be telling me it has parking spaces for employees, a shower, and a private bathroom for employees. Did the writer of this episode ever actually work in a restaurant? Hell, they didn't even have bathrooms for employees at Wal-Mart.

    Anya: "Please continue the story of failure."

    Spike: "I'm a consumer. Service me." (to Buffy)

    Old Lady: "What about the cherry pie?"

    I had to skip "Dead Things" (no load found).

    "Older and Far Away"

  • The piano an strings cue as Dawn goes home alone and doesn't find Buffy.
  • The piece as Buffy asks Dawn what she wanted.
  • The piece as Willow explains to Tara about why she kept magic stuff.
  • And the closing cue.

    Buffy: "I assume this was an act of kindness." (to the gang her set her up with a blind date)

    Buffy: "We do not joke about eating people in this house."

    "As You Were"

    I forgot Riley came back for an episode.

  • The cue for Buffy and Spike talking when Buffy gets home.
  • The cue when Buffy and Riley arrive at a damn and go looking for the demon.
  • The cue as Riley's wife talks to Willow and then as she's hunting with Buffy.
  • The Riley good-bye/Buffy dumping Spike cue.

    Buffy: "My head has a cow."

    Vampire: "What's that smell? Geez, Slayer -- is that you?"
    Buffy: "I've been working."
    Vampire: "Where? In a slaughter house?"
    Buffy: "Doublemeat Palace."
    Vampire: "Ooowww. You know what? Ah, let's just call it a night. If it's all the same to you and you've been eating that stuff, I'm not so sure I want to bite you."
    Buffy: "You're dead -- you smell like it. How do you get to say I'm the one who's stinky?"
    Vampire: "Really, it's cool, I'll just catch you next time."

    "Hell's Bells"

  • The cue that starts as Anya gets fitted into her wedding dress and that continues as relatives start arriving and mingle.
  • The cue as Xander is out mingling and gets approached by the old man.
  • The cue as Xander's sees the false visions of the future.
  • The cue as Buffy and Spike talk, and Willow talks to Xander.
  • The soft strings and woodwinds piece as Anya practices her wedding vows.
  • The cue as the guests get impatient/Buffy entertains people. As I recall, this cue is by Tony Morales (who did additional uncredited work on season five and six).
  • The wedding fight music.
  • The cue as Anya is told by the demon what he did and why. Sounds like part of an action cue from an earlier episode was tracked in briefly (probably replacing a small bit of original score).
  • The cue as Buffy, Willow and Dawn talk about thinks quietly together. It closes out the episode.

    In fact, based on the sound/style of that one additional cue, it wouldn't surprise me if a good bit of the score is by Morales.

    Oh, we do get to see Xander's parents. Only took six seasons.

    How did Spike arrive at the place for Anya's wedding? It's sunny outside even though it's raining and he's neither wet nor under a blanket.

    Willow: "Is anybody else waiting for it to go poof? Maybe we can cover it with flowers."

    Tomorrow, as I close things up, I will start with one of my favorite episodes, which also has one of my favorite wanted cues from Wanker's efforts.

     Posted:   Dec 21, 2017 - 3:29 PM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    Excited to hear what your favorite wanted cue is!

     Posted:   Dec 21, 2017 - 3:40 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    No, a cue. I don't have a singular favorite of either Beck or Wanker.

    You know, I'd love for Wanker to co-score a movie with Chris Bacon, that way the credit can read: Bacon/Wanker

     Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 11:38 AM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    "Normal Again"

  • The opening cue as Buffy is walking; strings, plucked strings leading the way
  • The battle cue with the demon:
  • The soft strings and brass as Willow practices saying "Hello" to Tara, then a short lull, then some more.
  • The slow piano and legato strings as Buffy talks to Willow about how detached she's been.
  • The cue as the demon attacks the gang after Buffy releases it, intercut with the stuff between her and her mom, then finally one of my favorite Wanker scoring moments: saying good-bye to her mom and Buffy snapping out of it and killing the demon.

    Xander: "And when you say 'poke'..."
    Buffy: "In the arm."

    I had to skip "Entropy" (no load found).

    "Seeing Red"

  • Buffy breaking into the Trio's layer and escaping the death traps.
  • The cue for Warren robbing the bank truck and fighting Buffy. It continues after the commercial break. Some of the string work in the first half doesn't sound like previous Wanker work. I wonder if that's an additional cue written by another composer.
  • The ending cue.

    Another surprise and shocking ending.

    Andrew: "Warren's the boss. He's Picard and you're Deanna Troi."

    Xander: "Time for the Spring poking already?"

    I had to skip: "Villains", "Two to Go" and "Grave" (no loads found)

    And so concludes season six and Wanker's work for the series.

     Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 11:39 AM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    SEASON 7

    And so, since I have some time, I'll do the two episodes Douglas Romayne Stevens did for season seven.

    "Lessons" (episode one)

  • The opening cue in Istanbul as a potential Slayer is chased down and killed:
  • The cue for Giles overseas with Willow:
  • The cue when Buffy jumps down through the hole in the bathroom floor and finds Dawn (more in tune with Beck's work).
  • Buffy battling the spirits.

    Suddenly Buffy's decided to use a cellphone.

    I couldn't match this cue up to any scene; back when Stevens had a website and Bleu Jean Management had one, there were cues available and this was one of them (so it's probably an alternate cue):

    The Mayor: "A soul is slippery as a greased weasel; why do you think I sold mine?"

    "Same Time, Same Place" (episode three)

  • The opening cue at the airport. There's more about two minutes later.
  • The cue as Willow arrives and walks around Buffy's house (again, more in tune with Beck's work; while still being his own thing).
  • The cue for Willow on the couch and making a phone call.
  • Willow looking for Xander.
  • Willow walking around the new high school.
  • The cue as Willow becomes visible.
  • The cue as Buffy and Willow talk at the end of the show; another one of the cues which was available back then:

    Xander: "My mouth saved the world."

    Anya: "I'm surprisingly sensitive."

    Xander: "Dark and dank. I was hoping it would be dark and dank."

    Anya: "Ah. Buffy killed the demon. It was gross."

    That conclude his work for the series. I don't know why they changed their mind about him scoring the whole season.

    And that also concludes my reviews. All that remains to do now is wait for the La La Land Records announcement.

     Posted:   Dec 23, 2017 - 9:37 AM   
     By:   acathla   (Member)

    - you NOT like the Wanker cue at the end of Grave when Xander saves the world??
    That is my favorite Wanker work (lol, I just...that name! hahah!).

    About "Lesson One" in the youtube link you posted.
    This is from the opening scene with Buffy teaching Dawn to fight her first vampire wink

    Thanks for all your posts! It's been super interesting to read what you think and what you like! big grin

    And yes, now we just have to wait for that final announcement!
    Hope it will come early January! Like, the first day they're back!
    I just really really want a 100% clear confirmation that this actually will get released.
    Yes, they said Jan 23 in that post on Black Friday, but in an email to me they said that they were HOPING to get it out by then (this was a week ago). They were still waiting for approvals. Do you know what that means? Is it art work approvals and such?

    Btw, the whole Disney/FOX thing would NOT affect the release. I had to ask about that as well! lol! big grin

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