Really hope Woke Fate flops and finally puts an end to this franchise.
It certainly desreves to fail after the director publically attacked fans on social media.
I see that you're choosing to ignore that Miller was going after the misogynists who were incensed by the presence of more than one woman in the main cast. I guess that lets us know where you stand.
The movie was a bad idea, but to see board members pissing and moaning about feminism in a movie series where the original protagonist was a woman whose arc took her from victim to badass sure says a lot about the times in which we're living.
Not when the director deserves it for being a troll to fans and turning a franchise aimed primarily at males into a chick flick.
Yeah, it's not like T2 didn't have a female protagonist or anything...
And once again you have failed to understand the complaint fans have about their favourite franchises being feminised.
Sarah Connor ( As played by Linda Hamilton anyway ) is a great character and is really the main character of the first two films.Well played by a good actress.But she was part of a mainly all male cast in where Arnie is the big draw.
The first photo they released of Woke fate was that of Sarah and two other women.The message was clear ' This is not your franchise anymore guys,the GIRLS are here now! '.
And it looks like the moviegoing public are not falling for it,not helped by Tim Millers idiotic comments online,since the film is a BOMB and may have finally nailed the coffin on this franchise.
Not when the director deserves it for being a troll to fans and turning a franchise aimed primarily at males into a chick flick.
Yeah, it's not like T2 didn't have a female protagonist or anything...
A yep. Makes zero sense.
Every time there’s a new movie with a female protagonist, the same two or three members come out of the woodwork and start talking politics.
Btw what did Cameron say that pissed off fans?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
It wasnt Cameron.It was the director Tim Miller.A few months ago he basically said that if you dont like the character of Grace it means that ' you are a closet misogynist and that she wil scare the f**** out of you.I dont give a f***! '
Well enjoy losing the studio all those millions of dollars Tim,just blame the internet when the suits call you in for that meeting asking you how you screwed up so bad!
By the way,Wonder Woman 1984 is the one movie i cant wait to see next year and am delighted that Alicia Vikanders Tomb Raider is getting a sequel.
The first photo they released of Woke fate was that of Sarah and two other women.The message was clear ' This is not your franchise anymore guys,the GIRLS are here now! '.
Not when the director deserves it for being a troll to fans and turning a franchise aimed primarily at males into a chick flick.
I’m a ‘chick’, and find your current comments both above and elsewhere reprehensible. Amazed (and saddened) you’re still able to get away with it here to be honest.....
For what its worth, i had a listen to Junkie XL's rendition of the Terminator theme in the end titles on Spotify and...its ok i guess? Havnt listened to the whole album cos im not really interested in the film.
Would love to hear his rejected score for Justice League though.With the growing interest in the Snyder cut gaining momentum,we may eventually get to listen to it.
I found most of the developments and "twists" of the story totally predictable, as based on stuff from the first two/three movies. There is only so much things you can do with the premise "Terminator back from the future sent to kill some kind of savior" story - basically 4 movies have been remaking the original or a variant of, and practically all the scenes have been (better) done already. In this respect, I actually enjoyed "Rise of The Machines", which I find really underrated (at the same time that T2 is imho a little overrated - I could expand on this some other time).
This is too bad because there are actually some decent character moments, particularly those involving Sarah Connor, and MacKenzie Davis is really good. But the movie's emotional impact is slowly taken down by over-familiarity, and the characters bits fail to build up to something. Having 4 major characters, just pursued by an un-charismatic villain probably doesn't help. Arnold's new character felt completely artificial, his story just being told, as something happening off screen, just doesn't ring true.
Even in terms of action, Tim Miller's direction lacks clarity, there is a truck/car chase that doesn't old a candle to the stuff of Cameron and even Mostow, and a fight within a plane that is rather confusing.
I think the movie that should not have failed (artistically and financially) and that would have successfully relaunched the franchise was "Salvation", with its post apocalyptic setting and getting rid of time travel elements, building on the John Connor mythology for several movies the way of the three recent Caesar-centric "Planet of the Apes" pictures did. Well, that did not happen...
I need to listen to the score separately but in the movie itself, it seemed pretty generic and standard, lacking much of the personality that at least the Fiedel stuff had. Like the movie, saying it is better than the last one is faint praise.
Not when the director deserves it for being a troll to fans and turning a franchise aimed primarily at males into a chick flick.
I’m a ‘chick’, and find your current comments both above and elsewhere reprehensible. Amazed (and saddened) you’re still able to get away with it here to be honest.....
Well said. Thank you.
If it's a post from solium again. Just pop him on ignore. (I don't know if it WAS him because the quoted posts are invisble to me because he isn't the only person I'm "ignoring" here).
Not when the director deserves it for being a troll to fans and turning a franchise aimed primarily at males into a chick flick.
I’m a ‘chick’, and find your current comments both above and elsewhere reprehensible. Amazed (and saddened) you’re still able to get away with it here to be honest.....
Well said. Thank you.
If it's a post from solium again. Just pop him on ignore. (I don't know if it WAS him because the quoted posts are invisble to me because he isn't the only person I'm "ignoring" here).
"Hamilton does appear to have spent the intervening quarter century smoking hundreds of packs of Marlboros while simultaneously getting herself ripped and shredded" Considering the movie establishes Sarah's spent the intervening years after John Connor's been killed waiting for other time-travelling Terminators to arrive and then destroy them, not to mention lapping up the sauce afterwards afterwards…
Poor Junkie...1992 action mixes sound like "While You Were Sleeping" compared to this. Mix is brutal. I heard percussion similar to Fury Road a couple times - struck wood block type drums, high range. Those cut thru the mix and made me happy. The takes on Brad Ira (?! see the end title) Fiedels themes are well handled. Maybe the album will sort it. Poor action films - should have just stuck Balfe's prior entry on this.
Poor Junkie...1992 action mixes sound like "While You Were Sleeping" compared to this. Mix is brutal. I heard percussion similar to Fury Road a couple times - struck wood block type drums, high range. Those cut thru the mix and made me happy. The takes on Brad Ira (?! see the end title) Fiedels themes are well handled. Maybe the album will sort it. Poor action films - should have just stuck Balfe's prior entry on this.
John Connor is now a woman...wow...
Not a slight, mind you, but why do you post in a style suggesting a superhero being mortally wounded?