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 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Happy Top Gun shipping day to all.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I'm not sure. The liner notes weren't very informative on the technical side this time around. The unused cues aren't even mentioned.

That's my only knock on the set. I had no idea Dog Fight #3 was a B side. Otherwise the liner notes are a very enjoyable read.

Oh, the notes give you an idea of how long this set has been ready to go:

"The score's legacy also lives on: in 2020, Faltermeyer will co-score the long awaited sequel, Top Gun: Maverick, with a fellow German composer who followed in his synthesized footsteps, Hans Zimmer."

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   jigawatts   (Member)

For anyone wondering, I believe Dog Fight #3 is just an alternate of the Goose's Death track.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"The score's legacy also lives on: in 2020, Faltermeyer will con-score the long awaited sequel, Top Gun: Maverick, with a fellow German composer who followed in his synthesized footsteps, Hans Zimmer."

So, is that your typo, or LLLR's typo?

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

I was wondering where "Dog Fight #3" came into play. That's actually becoming one of my favorite tracks!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   ANDREW   (Member)

I’ve listened to the score twice now and can’t help but feel the following..
1) Similar to thinking about a girlfriend from years ago and how great she was. You pull out an old photo…and realise she wasn’t as great as you thought she was! To me, the best, punchy tracks are those instrumentals of the classic songs. Couple of classic HF synth compositions…but the rest leaves me cold. I KNOW I’m in the minority here but I feel it’s become this legendary score simply because we haven’t had it in our hands. Beverley Hills Cop 1 and 2…Kuffs..Tango and Cash…maybe I was expecting more like that.

Don’t hang me out to dry….just talking’….discussin’….thats all!

2) The fade in/fade out issue. No way was it recorded like that. Sounds exactly like the bluray rip that’s been floating around for years. Probably stem sourced as suggested…very, very weird for a project of this stature to sound like this…but it’d appear this was all that was available.

Interested to hear your retorts, replies and thoughts…

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

"The score's legacy also lives on: in 2020, Faltermeyer will con-score the long awaited sequel, Top Gun: Maverick, with a fellow German composer who followed in his synthesized footsteps, Hans Zimmer."

So, is that your typo, or LLLR's typo?


Mine. Fixed.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

2) The fade in/fade out issue. No way was it recorded like that. Sounds exactly like the bluray rip that’s been floating around for years. Probably stem sourced as suggested…very, very weird for a project of this stature to sound like this…but it’d appear this was all that was available.
Interested to hear your retorts, replies and thoughts…


Mine is 2 or 3 days from delivery, but this would be disappointing. It's perhaps telling that the blurb on LLL's site doesn't reveal the master sources used, only that it was approved by Faltermeyer. Paramount is pretty good at holding onto this stuff unlike, say, what apparently happened with Octopussy.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

I’ve listened to the score twice now and can’t help but feel the following..
1) Similar to thinking about a girlfriend from years ago and how great she was. You pull out an old photo…and realise she wasn’t as great as you thought she was! To me, the best, punchy tracks are those instrumentals of the classic songs. Couple of classic HF synth compositions…but the rest leaves me cold. I KNOW I’m in the minority here but I feel it’s become this legendary score simply because we haven’t had it in our hands. Beverley Hills Cop 1 and 2…Kuffs..Tango and Cash…maybe I was expecting more like that.

Don’t hang me out to dry….just talking’….discussin’….thats all!

2) The fade in/fade out issue. No way was it recorded like that. Sounds exactly like the bluray rip that’s been floating around for years. Probably stem sourced as suggested…very, very weird for a project of this stature to sound like this…but it’d appear this was all that was available.

Interested to hear your retorts, replies and thoughts…


It was recorded exactly like that. Mr Faltermeyer was aware of the songs being edited into the film by the filmmakers and that's how he approached the score. Those fade outs were done to avoid any hard abrupt edits for the album release. Can't go back in time and change anything that was done in 1986.

MV

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I’ve listened to the score twice now and can’t help but feel the following..
1) Similar to thinking about a girlfriend from years ago and how great she was. You pull out an old photo…and realise she wasn’t as great as you thought she was! To me, the best, punchy tracks are those instrumentals of the classic songs. Couple of classic HF synth compositions…but the rest leaves me cold. I KNOW I’m in the minority here but I feel it’s become this legendary score simply because we haven’t had it in our hands. Beverley Hills Cop 1 and 2…Kuffs..Tango and Cash…maybe I was expecting more like that.


For me, Top Gun's music was always the songs and the anthem. Pretty much what we always had. The rest is loud rock music sans lyrics. I've never been a fan of "rock scores" unless it was Flash Gordon.

I'm a supporter of all existing scores being released. It's amazing this bad boy finally got the release demanded for so long. Top Gun, expanded Bond, a deep dive into the Horner catalogue... These are the salad days.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)


It was recorded exactly like that. Mr Faltermeyer was aware of the songs being edited into the film by the filmmakers and that's how he approached the score. Those fade outs were done to avoid any hard abrupt edits for the album release. Can't go back in time and change anything that was done in 1986.

MV


Glad that turned out to be the case and you're presenting the music as it is. I'm going to have a lot of fun with this release!

Thanks for clarifying MV.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   Andy C   (Member)


It was recorded exactly like that. Mr Faltermeyer was aware of the songs being edited into the film by the filmmakers and that's how he approached the score. Those fade outs were done to avoid any hard abrupt edits for the album release. Can't go back in time and change anything that was done in 1986.

MV


Cheers for the clarification, MV, and I'm excited to see my order status changed to "shipped" this evening. Now I just have to wait (im)patiently for the CD to make the long journey across the pond to England. Very many thanks to you and the LLL Team for making this available!

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 3:52 PM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

Yeah. I thought “it sounds too clean to be stems”.

Maybe I’m listening with rose-colored ear buds, but this brought out some major nostalgia for me. And I heard so many sounds I never picked up on in the movie.

I also loved the story about Billy Idol. I’m getting a kick out of picturing him walking down the hall of the studio “singing” the Top Gun Anthem.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 4:07 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

Not extactly related, but I just listened to the recording of the anthem from the sequel score. The oiginal's guitar tone sounds much better, the volume level fo the guitar in the sequel could be higher and it sounds almost drowned out at times, and there's no guitar solo. Hans had Guthrie Goven available, truly a guitar Top Gun. Rant over!

Well it is related because it shows just how great the original version is. Steve Stevens really nailed the solo - and all the rest, and had a great tone.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Croweyes1121   (Member)

Reposted from bluray.com, where I posted this info earlier today. Some there thought it worth resharing in this forum.

For the most part, this is truly awesome to hear. Crazy how good some of these tracks sound outside of the film. It's totally surreal hearing a track like "Mav vs Viper" on its own. It's almost sounds "wrong" without the darn jet engines after listening to it that way for the past 38 years.

A couple of peculiarities to note...well, one peculiarity, and one...I'll just be honest, it's an annoyance...

1. Any place in the film that has versions of songs that are *mostly* instrumental, but contain a few vocal flourishes here and there are totally instrumental on this presentation, so they're not - strictly speaking - the versions as heard in the film. Not that I'm upset about this choice, it does make sense...but you'll miss that opening "oooo" in Mighty Wings during "Jester Flying", for example. And unfortunately, it also means we lose the “mmmm’s” during the TMBA instrumental when Charlie is chasing Maverick in her car — I say unfortunately because those don’t even exist in the vocal version. Anyway, obviously this was intentional, so I wouldn't exactly say it’s a problem…just takes a second to get used to how they're choosing to present it.

2. Now the annoyance...one of the tracks I was most looking forward to, "Viper's House Pt 2" (which contains the part in the film where Maverick leaves Viper's house, sees that Charlie's house is for sale, and sits watching the F-14 at the airfield), is clearly mixed completely differently than the version in the movie. Those magnificent electric guitars as Mav stares in profile just before graduation are completely effed up. They're there for a second (the part when Maverick sees the for sale sign and starts his bike is fine), but then the mix audibly changes and everything gets weird. First they're a bit buried (as Mav rides off), and by the end of the track (the airfield), they're gone entirely. I don't know why this is the case, and I'm a bit ticked about it. It sort of reminds me of the controversy over the opening drone sound being all but missing at the start of the Beverly Hills Cop II score. This is the same type of thing, but IMO worse, because it's the whole crescendo of that piece, not just one missing element. Clearly it's the same...well, I don't know if "take" is the proper terminology when it comes to synths like this, but...you get my meaning. But it's just not what's heard in the film, and that does kind of suck when it's such a big musical moment. To be sure, we're talking here about 37 problematic seconds out of a 2-CD set, but I did think it was worth mentioning.

Anyway, that one sadly unfortunate thing aside, this is a must-own release, and I'm just through Disc 1 (which admittedly has 99% of the stuff of interest on it). But again...totally crazy and surreal to FINALLY be listening to (most of) this complete score after so long. Enjoy your discs.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

It was recorded exactly like that. Mr Faltermeyer was aware of the songs being edited into the film by the filmmakers and that's how he approached the score. Those fade outs were done to avoid any hard abrupt edits for the album release. Can't go back in time and change anything that was done in 1986.

MV


Interesting info. Thanks for clarifying that, MV.

And I'm glad you were finally able to get this album released after having things apparently drug out since pre-2020 (per the liner notes talking about "Top Gun: Maverick").

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm going to treat the score like a musical and arrange the songs in-between the score cues. I think it will be a banger.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

I'm going to treat the score like a musical and arrange the songs in-between the score cues. I think it will be a banger.

That is exactly how I have treated the Rocky IV score and songs and it plays brilliantly so I will do the same with this.

Now for some kind folk to list Top Gun chronologically…….

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2024 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

Great idea!

How do you place the instrumentals that have full song counterparts like Danger Zone and Take My Breath Away?

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2024 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm going to try chronologically order first (once someone figures that out) then strategically place the bonus or alt cues.

 
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