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 Posted:   Jan 21, 2025 - 10:46 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2025 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

My copy just arrived, ordered directly from Intrada.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2025 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   MotoMan   (Member)


Since the expanded and remastered 3-CD release came out I have been listening to the OST that I have had for a long while and find myself appreciating it more. To be honest I didn’t really click with it in the past. I actually really enjoy it now and find myself thinking the OST is probably all I need at a near 73 minute listening experience. I am normally a John Williams completist although I find myself listening to OST’s more than expansions and C&C releases. I think I tend to agree with Thor with his views on OST and C&C for the most part although not always. I value the listening experience from the beginning first track till the last track of a CD. There is a lot to be said for a curated listening experience on an OST release compared to the sometimes overly long expanded version of a C&C. So far I am leaning towards not getting this release and being satisfied with the OST. Plus the the OST sounds great on my audiophile stereo system. I don’t think it needs a remaster.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2025 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I’d check out that half hour Legacy of JW podcast. I didn’t think the old release sounded bad until I heard it for comparison… it’s quite a striking improvement IMO. And the same of previously unreleased music was fantastic; certain themes were barely on the original album (which only had about 67 minutes of unique music, due to the opening and closing cues being virtually identical… one of my biggest annoyances with Williams albums of this era) and I think even one theme didn’t appear on it at all but will be making its album debut on the 40+ minutes of previously unreleased music on this expanded album.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2025 - 6:50 PM   
 By:   darthflintstone   (Member)

Received my Patriot CD today. Fantastic score and expansion. Thanks Intrada!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2025 - 3:05 AM   
 By:   maurizio.caschetto   (Member)

Since the expanded and remastered 3-CD release came out I have been listening to the OST that I have had for a long while and find myself appreciating it more. To be honest I didn’t really click with it in the past. I actually really enjoy it now and find myself thinking the OST is probably all I need at a near 73 minute listening experience. I am normally a John Williams completist although I find myself listening to OST’s more than expansions and C&C releases. I think I tend to agree with Thor with his views on OST and C&C for the most part although not always. I value the listening experience from the beginning first track till the last track of a CD. There is a lot to be said for a curated listening experience on an OST release compared to the sometimes overly long expanded version of a C&C. So far I am leaning towards not getting this release and being satisfied with the OST. Plus the the OST sounds great on my audiophile stereo system. I don’t think it needs a remaster.


Nobody is forcing you to buy anything. If you're happy with the original release, good for you, sir. Personally, the new expansion is making me appreciate the score much more than I did in the past and has revelaed a work of great nuance and depth that tells a much more compelling and exciting story than the filmmakers did.

One of the great things about listening to John Williams' scores following the film's narrative (especially long articulate scores like this) is that we're able notice the craft of the musical storytelling and appreciate the through-composed quality of his music, with themes and motifs appearing and returning. In this case, it's great for example to get the get the overall dramatic arc of the musical narrative, so that when you get to the triumphant music for the final battle it feels much more "earned". The original album is more of a collection of sequences and highlights, which is absolutely fine, but doesn't give full justice to Williams' skill as a dramaturgue.

Also, Williams hardly writes filler material in long scores, so there is always something interesting and surprising to discover even in smaller cues that are only apparently transitional material (for example, the beautiful "The North Star" here, track 2 of Disc 1, or the sublime Americana of "Martin Leaves the Family"). You never feel like you're wasting your time when you listen to John Williams' music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2025 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   That Bloke   (Member)

I didn’t think the old release sounded bad until I heard it for comparison… it’s quite a striking improvement IMO.

Yavar


Lemme guess: the remastering was brighter and louder, giving the score that wonderful "horrifically ruined" effect?

;-) :-p

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2025 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

big grin

I guess it’s just addressing the DSD issue (which I don’t quite understand), in this case.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2025 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

My favorite release of 2024. Every track is a pure joy to listen to. THE PATRIOT should be one of Intrada’s biggest sellers.

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2025 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

High praise from you Cody, for a score composed this millennium. wink

Very glad you enjoyed it and looking forward to listening to the whole thing myself. That half-hour podcast tease really was an ear-opener.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2025 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

It doesn’t matter when it was composed when it’s composed by the great John Williams.

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2025 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   WhoDat   (Member)

Received mine yesterday... listened to it twice so far. So happy to finally have the full experience of one of my favorite under-the-radar Williams scores.

So many standout cues, but one I always come back to is 'Ann and Gabriel' (also featured on the OST). Going back 25 years to when I picked up the original CD, this track has always stood out to me as one of the most delicately orchestrated and emotional 5 minutes of music in JW's career.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2025 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

My copy arrived yesterday and I am listening to disc 1. This may seem like an odd comment, but this arrangement thus far really feels like a John Williams score to me. I may be able to explain that further but that's what hit me as it played.

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2025 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I find all his scores play better in chronological order. He's a master at storytelling.

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2025 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I'm definitely pleased that this score now has the deluxe treatment and remastering, it has long been one of my favorite Williams scores from the 2000's. I am finding the alternates quite fascinating. Interestingly enough, though, after several listens, I find that I still prefer the original album presentation as it presents the most engaging highlights of the score. For me, 100+ minutes is just too long for a devoted listen and I think it takes quite awhile for this score to get its motor running, even though it has such memorable themes throughout. I like the cues that Williams combined for certain album tracks and the varied, non-chronological sequence so that the high energy tracks can "juice up" the listen at regular intervals.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2025 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   ClaytonMG   (Member)

I've had this thing on repeat since it arrived. Really love the complete score presentation and am surprisedat how well it flows. The original album never really had that flow to me and some of the crossfades just seemed odd.

I also liked the alternates, especially Death of Thomas how it calls back to the descending notes from earlier in the track. Good stuff all around.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2025 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

My copy arrived yesterday and I am listening to disc 1. This may seem like an odd comment, but this arrangement thus far really feels like a John Williams score to me. I may be able to explain that further but that's what hit me as it played.


Was it David Newman who said this…When you hire John Williams to compose a movie score…it will sound like a John Williams score!

Except ..Images, Lots of CEOTTK.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2025 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   sirefbud   (Member)

Received my copy today. So happy to finally have this fantastic score in its expanded form. The cost was totally worth it just based on track 5 from disc 1 ("The Defeat At Charleston") alone. Not sure why it wasn't included on the original album considering how gorgeous it is. It was a shame it took so long to finally get it on disc.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2025 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   lostinscores   (Member)

Yeah, shame there is no mentioning of David Arnold in the liner notes. Seems to me like an important historic film music fact.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2025 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   kingtolkien   (Member)

Since Mel Gibson had two war epics in the late 90's. The Patriot and Braveheart. I wonder which film and which film score do you prefer?
Personally I like both films but I choose Braveheart. Concerning the music I love various tracks from Braveheart but I have to admit that I like The Patriot score a lot more.

 
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