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 Posted:   Mar 13, 2018 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Obviously I meant the stuff not recorded, that's why I said it's better to have the mock ups than miss one third of the score.



As for recording the rest, it's probably too expensive. You have recording places with unique acoustics, players specifically assembled (some likely with rare percussion instruments that are hard to get), and coordinating all this. Perhaps an online funding site to raise the money to finish recording the score, is in order.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

Whoever posted the rejected Horner "Romeo and Juliet" also uploaded a suite of music supposedly from Howard Shore's "King Kong" score, but I don't believe for a second that it is. I'd heard years ago that a fake promo of Shore's "Kong" was making the rounds that was actually comprised of John Fizzell music (I believe "Primeval"), and while I'm no expert on Frizzell, the music in this suite sounds a lot more like Frizzell's music than anything I've ever heard by Shore (nor does it sound anything like the Shore music briefly heard in a behind the scenes featurette).

I believe some people who post here or used to post here have heard Shore's score. There are others here who are more familiar with John Frizzell's music than I am. If any of you can confirm that this is not Shore's score & also help identify what this music is, that'd be great.

Here is the suite in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCq2IA0jGV4

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

I don't know much about Frizzell's music appart from Alien Resurrection.
But this is not Howard Shore. I'm pretty sure of that.

Funnily, it sounds a bit like James Newton Howard. Could it be some early tracks or, maybe it's some temp tracks from other works he did?

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Played a bit - doubtful it's Shore too.

But have I got Goldeneye demos by Michael J Lewis for you that are unbelievable!!!! Great stuff!!!

(That is a joke, don't frag me, FFS ....)

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

Yeah, that YouTube video is bogus. Possibly culled from a fake bootleg that the uploader took at face value.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

The movie is awful and preposterous in every level.

Judging the wall-to-wall junk JNH was forced to compose, it is not difficult to see why Shore had problems creating a music score for it...

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   Larry847   (Member)

The movie is awful and preposterous in every level.

Judging the wall-to-wall junk JNH was forced to compose, it is not difficult to see why Shore had problems creating a music score for it...


I loved the movie and Howard's score. Different strokes...

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 5:32 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)

The movie is awful and preposterous in every level.

Damn straight! I want my KONGs to be realistic and believable on every level! That's why my KONG go-to choice is KING KONG ESCAPES. Go, Mecha Kong!

If only that project where Brando planned to bring his Method to the role hadn't fallen through.....

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

The movie is awful and preposterous in every level.

Judging the wall-to-wall junk JNH was forced to compose, it is not difficult to see why Shore had problems creating a music score for it...


I didn't know JNH was forced to compose this music?? And wall-to-wall junk? It's a serviceable score but not complete junk, IMHO.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

The movie is awful and preposterous in every level.

Damn straight! I want my KONGs to be realistic and believable on every level! That's why my KONG go-to choice is KING KONG ESCAPES. Go, Mecha Kong!

If only that project where Brando planned to bring his Method to the role hadn't fallen through.....


Agreed. King Kong Lives is better than this. Cheers!

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

The movie is awful and preposterous in every level.

Judging the wall-to-wall junk JNH was forced to compose, it is not difficult to see why Shore had problems creating a music score for it...


I didn't know JNH was forced to compose this music?? And wall-to-wall junk? It's a serviceable score but not complete junk, IMHO.


Ok, forced was too much. Sugested, for sure.

The score is not bad musically of course, but in the context of the movie is junk.
In my opinion of course.
I understand that other may like it.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   DougAdams   (Member)

Whoever posted the rejected Horner "Romeo and Juliet" also uploaded a suite of music supposedly from Howard Shore's "King Kong" score, but I don't believe for a second that it is. I'd heard years ago that a fake promo of Shore's "Kong" was making the rounds that was actually comprised of John Fizzell music (I believe "Primeval"), and while I'm no expert on Frizzell, the music in this suite sounds a lot more like Frizzell's music than anything I've ever heard by Shore (nor does it sound anything like the Shore music briefly heard in a behind the scenes featurette).

I believe some people who post here or used to post here have heard Shore's score. There are others here who are more familiar with John Frizzell's music than I am. If any of you can confirm that this is not Shore's score & also help identify what this music is, that'd be great.

Here is the suite in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCq2IA0jGV4


I probably post this once every couple of years, so apologies for the repetition: it's not Shore's KONG score. (I've heard Shore's KONG score.)

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 8:05 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The movie is awful and preposterous in every level.

Judging the wall-to-wall junk JNH was forced to compose, it is not difficult to see why Shore had problems creating a music score for it...


I didn't know JNH was forced to compose this music?? And wall-to-wall junk? It's a serviceable score but not complete junk, IMHO.


Ok, forced was too much. Sugested, for sure.

The score is not bad musically of course, but in the context of the movie is junk.
In my opinion of course.
I understand that other may like it.


It's a bit monochromatic over all probably due to the fact it was a rushed job, but IMHO there's quite a few standout moments. The Venture approaching the island, Kong's theme, the love theme, the "ice skating" scene, Kong captured scene and of course Kong's death. It's more thematic and emotes more than most scores produced in the last decade.

I would love to see a 2 hour cut. The theatrical film is way to bloated.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Doug Adams

Why

If you're gonna tease us lowly folk, at LEAST paint one of you (admittedly excellent) portraits of WHAT Shore Kong sounds like? Please???

Because us commoners will never hear it, unless its booted or the slim chance a label gets to go it! FFS! Pretty please?!

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 10:53 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

Whoever posted the rejected Horner "Romeo and Juliet" also uploaded a suite of music supposedly from Howard Shore's "King Kong" score, but I don't believe for a second that it is. I'd heard years ago that a fake promo of Shore's "Kong" was making the rounds that was actually comprised of John Fizzell music (I believe "Primeval"), and while I'm no expert on Frizzell, the music in this suite sounds a lot more like Frizzell's music than anything I've ever heard by Shore (nor does it sound anything like the Shore music briefly heard in a behind the scenes featurette).

I believe some people who post here or used to post here have heard Shore's score. There are others here who are more familiar with John Frizzell's music than I am. If any of you can confirm that this is not Shore's score & also help identify what this music is, that'd be great.

Here is the suite in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCq2IA0jGV4


I probably post this once every couple of years, so apologies for the repetition: it's not Shore's KONG score. (I've heard Shore's KONG score.)


Okay, Doug, GoblinScore beat me to it but I'll chime in too....

Surely you can give us more than that big fat dangling carrot of "I've heard Shore's Kong".

What all of us here really want to know is:

1) When is Shore releasing his score for Kong? And...
2) When are you and Shore going to get around to the complete recordings of The Hobbit films?

And don't pretend like you don't know. After all, you guys are good friends.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 11:21 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Cheers Replicant (love your namesake & filmsake), and I'm sure slim & none are all over a CD release of Shore's KONG....

So, for now, I'd love an Adams-style in depth description of the score, as only that cat can do. I love his writing, so ...bring it DA!

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I saw it at the cinema when it opened & enjoyed it, & I think the longer version on Blu-ray plays better. The problem I have with the film is that the tone is all over the place, it's jokey, it's serious, it's romantic. The uneasy & disturbing scenes with the tribe don't seem to belong to this film as all...& then there's Jack Black! I think once they're over the wall & on the island & fighting monsters it all works a treat (except having Kong jumping around like a demented Jack Russell robs him of any dignity, & his fight with all those T-Rex's is way over choreographed). The New York scene at the end goes on to long (that frozen lake scene shouldn't have made it past the rough cut). I think it made a profit (IMDB, budget $207,000,000, world-wide gross $562,363,449), but not as much as Universal hoped. I think I prefer Kong: Skull Island, it's larky & fun.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 12:09 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

They should have got James Horner to replace James Newton Howard's replacement score and then have Abel replace Horner's replacement score of the replaced James Newton Score which replaced Howard Shore's score. So many Jameses and Howards involved here.

Dang, Gustavo Santaolalla should have just played his guitar on the sona mo bix!

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 12:16 AM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

I probably post this once every couple of years, so apologies for the repetition: it's not Shore's KONG score. (I've heard Shore's KONG score.)

Thank you for confirming that what was uploaded on YouTube was indeed the same fake promo that has been floating around for years.

Strange how in one day a YouTube uploader shares both a 100% authentic high-profile rejected score (Horner's "Romeo and Juliet") and a previously discredited fake promo of a high profile rejected score (Shore's "Kong").

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 12:20 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

They should have got James Horner to replace James Newton Howard's replacement score and then have Abel replace Horner's replacement score of the replaced James Newton Score which replaced Howard Shore's score. So many Jameses and Howards involved here.

Dang, Gustavo Santaolalla should have just played his guitar on the sona mo bix!


...or just score it with other film music (the best bit of music in it is from Max Steiner's original score). The main titles with José Feliciano singing Old Turkey Buzzard would make for an interesting start smile

 
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