So reasonable, that I suspect it'll go above the heads of the people who'd benefit most from reading it.
Honestly, I find the inane judgments being made in here by people on a discussion board for film soundtracks (stereotypically a pretty nerdy subject, and something for which you might find yourself called into question by others) laughable, at best (at worst, I'd rather not say). I got a huge laugh out of the "testosterone" comment earlier on in here, though, when I reviewed this thread; so thanks for that one. But I suppose there isn't much more stereotypically "testosterone"-ish than mindless adherence to gender stereotypes, and arrogantly presuming your opinion should reign over all; so perhaps there was some truth to it. Admirable male qualities, to be sure.
Personally, I don't collect action figures of any type. Not Star Wars, GI Joe, Transformers... those things I suppose Shaun might place into the "cool" category ('cuz HEY! they're for boys!!!!), and certainly not My Little Pony. Mostly because cheap plastic toys don't really interest me; not because I care about gender roles. But I've seen no evidence in Basil's posts to suggest that he buys toys, either, so how on Earth did the discussion ever move to that?
As for the comment regarding the "dangerously sexual" nature of liking this series, I'm sorry, but that pretty much strips any possible validity that any other parts of your post may've had. You don't like the show? That's perfectly fine; nobody likes everything, and I hope the day never comes when that changes 'cuz it'd be pretty damn boring. Don't understand why others may like it? Also, that's fine; I don't understand why people like certain things, either... soap operas, the SW prequels, romance novels, etc. But trying to imply that people are "creepy" or somehow sexually deviant, or openly mocking them for liking something you don't? That's where you cross the line from reasonable disagreement into truly ignorant stupidity.
So reasonable, that I suspect it'll go above the heads of the people who'd benefit most from reading it.
Honestly, I find the inane judgments being made in here by people on a discussion board for film soundtracks (stereotypically a pretty nerdy subject, and something for which you might find yourself called into question by others) laughable, at best (at worst, I'd rather not say). I got a huge laugh out of the "testosterone" comment earlier on in here, though, when I reviewed this thread; so thanks for that one. But I suppose there isn't much more stereotypically "testosterone"-ish than mindless adherence to gender stereotypes, and arrogantly presuming your opinion should reign over all; so perhaps there was some truth to it. Admirable male qualities, to be sure.
Personally, I don't collect action figures of any type. Not Star Wars, GI Joe, Transformers... those things I suppose Shaun might place into the "cool" category ('cuz HEY! they're for boys!!!!), and certainly not My Little Pony. Mostly because cheap plastic toys don't really interest me; not because I care about gender roles. But I've seen no evidence in Basil's posts to suggest that he buys toys, either, so how on Earth did the discussion ever move to that?
As for the comment regarding the "dangerously sexual" nature of liking this series, I'm sorry, but that pretty much strips any possible validity that any other parts of your post may've had. You don't like the show? That's perfectly fine; nobody likes everything, and I hope the day never comes when that changes 'cuz it'd be pretty damn boring. Don't understand why others may like it? Also, that's fine; I don't understand why people like certain things, either... soap operas, the SW prequels, romance novels, etc. But trying to imply that people are "creepy" or somehow sexually deviant, or openly mocking them for liking something you don't? That's where you cross the line from reasonable disagreement into truly ignorant stupidity.
Hey! I like Superman and collect his shit, and I'm not a perv!
I rewatched Ticket Master and Suited for Success on DVD just an hour ago, with both of my parents and my older brother. There's an official DVD released by Hasbro/The Hub which contains these two episodes and is an exclusive to Target. That's not the point though.
Rewatching these episodes literally cured me of the built-up anger and sadness that I was feeling for most of today. They're not the best episodes in season one, not by a long shot - though they certainly left me feeling so much more alive than I was just an hour and a half ago.
That's what all these colorful horses with all different kinds of personalities do to me. They change the way I feel, the way I think. They bring me joy and satisfaction, and they ultimately fill in some kind of hole or a void that my way of living just plain doesn't have otherwise. They make me feel ALIVE, and for a while I am completely devoid of any self-centered or selfish attitude that I normally see toward most of the things that I take for granted. Even though I'm lucky that I have family and relatives who care about me... even though my immediate family and most of my relatives are not abusive, nor do they smoke or drink or take drugs... I always turn a blind eye to that fact and I'm constantly wanting more and more all the time to fulfill my own selfish wants or needs. I rarely, if ever, show my appreciation or love to my family and friends for everything that they do for me.
My Little Pony turns that upside down. It MAKES me want to love and appreciate everyone I know, all of my family and friends. Even if it's only a temporary boost in my self-esteem, it truly feels like more of a cure than any sort of real life medication or assistance can ever hope to achieve. It's an injection of happiness like no other, and I'm sure the tens of thousands of fans that the show has gained can easily attest to this.
That said - the majority of you will think that I'm spouting off a bunch of nonsense and that I'm being ridiculous. Or you're just going to laugh off anything and everything that I say without even having an open mind to the prospect that a piece of entertainment CAN be life-changing. Closed-mindedness gets you nowhere, and it certainly doesn't allow oneself to be able to experience new things in life and discover the magic there is in branching out to unfamiliar or different ideas.
I feel sorry for those of you who are jumping into this discussion without so much as giving the series a chance. Surely with all that spare time you must have to post on a message board you'd be able to devote that time to watching a few episodes just to try it out.
I don't expect every single person on FSM to like it or enjoy it. I certainly don't expect many of you to even give it a shot, as much as I wish you would. As already stated earlier, it's impossible for a large group of people to be able to enjoy one simple concept. The world would be a very boring place if every single person has the exact same opinion or ideology. I'm sure it's a universally accepted fact (it's also the ending moral for Suited for Success) that you can't please everybody all the time - or that trying to satisfy every single person may well end up satisfying nobody.
What really comes as a surprise is how much hate and intolerance most of FSM appears to have to the simple existence of the show altogether.
I really did think that when I first posted this thread, that because all of us share one common trait that 99% of the rest of the outside world really couldn't care less about, that you all would at least let me have this to myself and anyone else interested in the show. I certainly think that it takes some degree of intelligence in order to be able to love and appreciate film music, and not that various artists stuff you typically see commercially. What I got instead was a majority that didn't just settle for not caring about Friendship is Magic: they felt the need to come in this thread, trash it, and leave as if nothing happened. Most of the board wants this thread gone. I really didn't expect this thread to gain a massive, positive reaction, but I didn't expect it to nosedive so deep into the trenches either.
Maybe I expected too much from a community that can love and tolerate one niche, but decry and call for the death upon another niche. Think about it: The world hates film music. Film music fans hate pony fans. The latter is a microcosm of the former. Irony at its best, isn't it? Do I even have to mention the fact that Equestria Daily - the major news website for all things MLP:FiM - has amassed to 40 million views by this point? And it's only been on and live since January. In the span of nine months, the fanbase for MLP:FiM has grown to be potentially larger - if not double or triple the size of that of the film music fanbase. I see film music fanatics bringing out the guillotine on pony fanatics as the same thing as black oppression in the 50s and 60s by the whites.
Why the hell can't we just coexist in peace? It's not as if the existence of My Little Pony is harming you in any form or fashion, compared to perhaps the loss of a job or the death of a loved one. I really don't understand what the problem is or the beef that many of you appear to have by the simple fact that THIS ONE TOPIC EXISTS ON THE BOARDS. What ever happened to skipping past topics you didn't care about?
I used to have some 160 friends on my Facebook before I became a major fan of the show. I recently had to cull down that friends list down to 95 - because now people whom I used to think were people I could trust, people whom I used to call actual friends or acquaintances, are showing their true colors by displaying such atrocious grade school bully behavior and having the false belief that colored horses are some kind of cancer upon society.
4Chan used to think ponies were some kind of cancer as well, rather than a cure. They, like you, chose to judge the book by its cover instead of giving the first chapter a read with an open mind. No one's pointing a gun to your head to post hate speech on a subject you know nothing of. However, 4Chan tried to fight with us and they lost. They had to accept the fact that this cartoon is now a cult following and the fans won't go away. This is amazing because 4Chan once took on the FBI and won. You could therefore come to the conclusion that My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is more powerful than the FBI.
The truth of the matter is, ponies are not cancer. The true cancer is the depressing attitude that most of you have chosen to stand your high horse upon. All this whining and complaining because you can't fathom the fact that someone else likes and enjoys something you don't, and you therefore wish to see it abolished.
Well guess what? Real life doesn't work that way. Cry me a river, build a bridge, get off your high horse and get over it. We're all allowed to have our own cultures and differences. I have every right to express my interest in Friendship is Magic, just as the rest of you have the right to express how much you love 80s cheeseball B-ficks, or your love for Star Trek/BSG/other science fiction, or sports, or old obscure movies from the 30s and 40s that only you and maybe a handful of others have even heard about.
Which brings me to another point: You're certainly entitled to believe that adult males liking a show for girls is creepy, although I STRONGLY disagree. With that same sentiment, I think it's creepy that John Jacob Hinrichs started a thread about guessing which boobs belongs to which women in the Non-Score Discussion area, and I also think it's creepy that Justin Bielawa, in reference to Irene, recently stated that he does not wish to have his CDs near ten feet of anything wet except for that of a woman's crotch.
The point is this: I didn't come in to your Facebook post or your thread and shit all over it. I have no intention of doing so because I simply don't care about what you do in your spare time, and it would be immature of me to do so. Yet the lot of you somehow feel that it's appropriate to come into MY discussion topic and destroy the party that Pinkie Pie set up and leave your rotting eggs and shit stains all over the floors and walls of Sugarcube Corner. Do you see where I'm getting at here?
If I learned anything from this entire ordeal - from people who feel the need to whine in order to validate their existence, or to make themselves appear "cool" to their other buddies as if this is somehow a gang war - it's that most of you are not people whom I'd rather associate with nor meet up with in real life anytime soon. It makes me feel ashamed to be a fan of film music, to be lumped in with all these other intolerant people, and I can definitely see why many of FSM's previous posters have migrated over to Intrada's boards instead or simply ditched the forums entirely. I made a Facebook post this afternoon simply to state that it would be wonderful if FSM had a thread-ban feature simply so that I wouldn't have to put up with narrow-minded folk such as Shaun Rutherford anymore. VBulletin certainly has such a feature. Wouldn't THAT be a blessing?
You don't have to enjoy the series. You don't have to like it. What I would like to see the end of is the childish complaining that the existence of the series and its fans should be exterminated. At least here out in the open, out in public, where I can see it. As far as I'm concerned, you're more than welcome to post your odd Dungeons & Dragons movie clips on someone else's Facebook wall if it makes you feel better somehow or if it gives you a laugh. But stop trashing my thread. I'm allowed to have it, and if you want to make your own topic to hate on the show, by all means. I don't need to try to gain some self-importance to muck up topics that *I* don't like here.
It didn't have to end this way at all, really. Most of you would have at least still had my respect if you knew how to not interject in discussions that have nothing to do with you whatsoever. But it's clearly evident that this place has ganged up on me and you've decided to hate me just because I've found true happiness in my interests and you haven't. I'm sorry that you haven't, and I wish you will find happiness someday, but clearly this is not for you.
I'm wondering how many of you rely on my Soundtrack Release Schedule thread? My Intrada Low Quantity thread and alerts? The postings that I sometimes make here on behalf of Intrada? I'm more than willing to give up all of those if y'all can't learn to just accept me for who I am. But I'm not about to be driven out of here just because the lot of you keep on crying "stop liking what I don't like!" to no avail. It's not going to happen. The show is already in its second season and production may be starting on season three rather soon.
I really hope the moderation actions steps up here a bit (with some actual bannings), because this repetitive song and dance has outlasted its stay. I've said way more than I had to with my piece and I'm done arguing with you people. Grow a pair and learn to have some tolerance and respect for the things you don't like.
Bas, there ain't a damn thing wrong with you liking what you like.
The nay-sayers are too thick to comprehend the irony in their cruelty. When they single out objects of ridicule, they often forget that they leave themselves wide open to the same malevolent scrutiny. Don't worry about them... their actions in real life will bring about consequences of it's own (or rewards, as the case may be).
Those that are not yet strong enough to live without the cynical, sarcastic validation they crave from their own kind MIGHT still gain a measure of wisdom and maturity some day. But for now (for what it's worth) don't waste your time giving people more of the benefit of the doubt than their behavior actually merits BEFOREHAND.
Mabey I expected too much from a community that can love and tolerate one niche, but decry and call for the death upon another niche. Think about it: The world hates film music. Film music fans hate pony fans. The latter is a microcosm of the former. Irony at its best, isn't it? Do I even have to mention the fact that Equestria Daily - the major news website for all things MLP:FiM - has amassed to 40 million views by this point? And it's only been on and live since January. In the span of nine months, the fanbase for MLP:FiM has grown to be potentially larger - if not double or triple the size of that of the film music fanbase. I see film music fanatics bringing out the guillotine on pony fanatics as the same thing as black oppression in the 50s and 60s by the whites.
WHAT?!? You are comparing your struggle to get accepted for watching a girls' cartoon primarily aimed at kids with black oppression in the 50 and 60s? You are kidding right?
And the world doesn't 'hate' film music, I'm not sure why you are making this out to be a war between MLP fans and film music fans; sure there are always opposing views on a DISCUSSION BOARD, you put something up, we discuss it. It seems that one vital thing My Little Pony hasn't tought its viewers is that hate and intolerance exist and you have to learn to deal with it. This isn't a fantasy world, if you post a My Little Pony thread in an -at times- adult film score message board that is primarily filled with James Bond, Batman, Star Wars and Star Trek geeks, you have to expect some kind of backlash and ridicule. (this whole thread makes me think back to that princess Diana thread).
two words former Basil: REALITY CHECK
I have as much right to voice an opinion as you do shoving this pony propaganda down my throat (and it doesn't limit itself to one thread sadly, it's well past 'flamboyant' at this point).
You can't possibly compare this to getting to sit in front of the bus like white people
I'm wondering how many of you rely on my Soundtrack Release Schedule thread? My Intrada Low Quantity thread and alerts? The postings that I sometimes make here on behalf of Intrada? I'm more than willing to give up all of those if y'all can't learn to just accept me for who I am.
That is appreciated Basil, but in all honesty, when you don't post the announcement, someone else will and to me the threads you do on the release shedule and low quantity threads (which hardly get updated if you are so keen on promoting your efforts), are to me more evidence of obsessive behaviour (like with your MLP) than they are of someone doing a service, which shouldn't be done for selfish reasons.
While normally I wouldn't set out to watch a show like this, I think I will go ahead and give it a try. A couple of those clips were surprisingly impressive.
Don't worry about the negativity Basil. This type of out lash can only come from something dark inside the poster. Something is hurting them inside, so they lash out at anything closest to them.
Add them to your prayers and continue to enjoy your show while there is still something out there you do enjoy.
Francis, you are way out of line. No one is shoving anything down anyone's throat. Please reconsider your comments.
Mr. Sones has already issued 2 warnings to put a stop to the bullying. It should be clear enough.
I stick to my words on this issue, that's the last I've said about it. I wanted to give this guy a chance, but there's only so much I can take of (t)his absurdity.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see a problem. Basil posts about the fanciful ponies...perhaps it should be moved to the non-film score board...but otherwise, those who like the thread will post here, the others...don't need to worry about it. There are some real internet jack-offs here. Jesus, some of you people...
WHAT?!? You are comparing your struggle to get accepted for watching a girls' cartoon primarily aimed at kids with black oppression in the 50 and 60s? You are kidding right?
While I obviously wouldn't compare it to that in terms of social implications, intolerance over petty & meaningless things is the same no matter what form it takes: intolerance over something that's meaningless & petty. But hey, if you can list even a single benefit that's been gained by either you or Basil in your exercise of intolerance over this petty and meaningless thing, I'm willing to hear you out. I suspect you can't. Unless you're pathetically shallow and easily amused (which perhaps isn't as unlikely as all that), you can't possibly be getting anything out of this discussion; and I certainly hold out no hope that you'll be enlightened as to the childishness of your behaviour. And I know Basil's not getting anything out of it.
But also, what does it say about you when you're so intolerance over something so petty and meaningless? Judging by how you express yourself and the views you've espoused, I'm going to guess that your core motivation is self-interest above and beyond much (if anything) else. If for no other reason than it makes you look foolish, consider putting a stop to such petty behaviour.
I have as much right to voice an opinion as you do shoving this pony propaganda down my throat (and it doesn't limit itself to one thread sadly, it's well past 'flamboyant' at this point).
You do indeed have every right right to express your (inane) opinions, but you seem to be under the impression that in order to accept the existence of this thread, you have to let Basil force you into watching and enjoying this show. That's not the case. You needn't watch it, you needn't like it. All you need do to accept the thread is to ignore it and refrain from expressing your intolerant and negative views in it. There must be numerous threads on composers and/or scores you don't care for floating around the forum... tell me, do you persistently post in them expressing your dislike over and over, and your disdain for those who do like them? It's perhaps acceptable to post such a comment (minus the disdain, which is merely rude) expressing dislike once; after that it's just kind of repetitive, boring, and purposeless.
There's a vast difference between your right to express an opinion, and your imaginary right to treat other people as if they're somehow less than human for any reason. It doesn't matter whether it's their religion, ethnicity, political views, or even (as minor as it would appear) the horrendous crime of daring to like something the great and powerful Francis has deemed unacceptable for their age group and/or gender. 'cuz we all know Francis has the final say.
And the world doesn't 'hate' film music, I'm not sure why you are making this out to be a war between MLP fans and film music fans; sure there are always opposing views on a DISCUSSION BOARD, you put something up, we discuss it. It seems that one vital thing My Little Pony hasn't tought its viewers is that hate and intolerance exist and you have to learn to deal with it. This isn't a fantasy world, if you post a My Little Pony thread in an -at times- adult film score message board that is primarily filled with James Bond, Batman, Star Wars and Star Trek geeks, you have to expect some kind of backlash and ridicule.
It's not about film music fans VS. my little pony fans. But fans of film music are hardly in a position to so liberally apply social stigmas against others (while retraining a shred of credibility, that is). Or, at least, you'd have hoped they'd have learned not to do so via personal experience of it being done to them.
And Star Trek? Star Wars? ... really? I love both franchises, but honestly these two fandoms have faced just as much ridicule (which I also disagree with) as has been heaped upon Basil in this thread. Both groups should know far better (this isn't my opinion, it's a goddamn fact), and any Trek fan I've ever known does. Unfortunately, stereotypes aside, not all Trek fans are that smart, but those who are know what it's like to be bullied and they're not too thick to realize that it serves no purpose and isn't something they'd want to do to another person. I'd heard there's no honour among thieves, but never before has it been demonstrated to me so expertly (not a compliment) as on these forums that the same expression can apply to geeks. Or maybe there's just no honour at all among Homo sapiens, which I'd find sad.
And there's never been a more kiddy franchise than Star Wars; especially in the last decade or so. If you want to stigmatize something because it's "for kids", choose a better goddamn counterpoint that Star Wars, lmao.
As for your philosophy on intolerance and hate; I pity you. Sure, they exist. Do they need to? Not really. They certainly shouldn't be acknowledged and simply accepted as "facts of life". They should be fought against at every opportunity, and I'll fight any and all such intolerance equally vehemently no matter how "minor" it might seem at first glance. It's ethically abhorrent, and that's reason enough to stamp it out.
Apparently being a Star Trek "geek" (assuming you were talking about yourself) has taught you nothing at all; something for which I pity you all the more; and anyone else who claims to be a Star Trek fan who's engaged in trolling in this thread. Or maybe you've just listened to the music too much, and forgotten one of the core messages of the franchise.
You chose a wonderful avatar for yourself, though. Truly fitting; especially going by the novel. Do all the trolls here choose villains and extradimensional sociopaths?
I'm sorry, but I just don't see a problem. Basil posts about the fanciful ponies...perhaps it should be moved to the non-film score board...but otherwise, those who like the thread will post here, the others...don't need to worry about it. There are some real internet jack-offs here. Jesus, some of you people...
Shaun R has made a lot of valuable posts on this board IMO, and obviously has been here much longer than me and is part of the weave of the board community. I regret I'll no longer be able to see his posts.
Grown men should not display the mentality of 6th graders with their fear of cooties and their shrill calculus of which action figures are cool for dudes and which action figures are creepy for dudes. Even on message boards, where one's behavior towards others ostensibly "doesn't count".
There's a case to be made for this thread belonging on non-film score discussion but not on the terms expressed here. Grow up for god's sake.
If you're scared to post because of what people are going to say, you're doing it wrong. Intelligent people have nothing to fear on the Internet - but my rake is lined with people who wanted to pick a fight for no reason or who wanted to be jerks for the sake of being jerks or who just show no respect for the setting.
Which is what happened here. On both sides, really. But I'm picking a side on this because its very obvious which one is going to last and which one isn't.
Let's analyze what just happened here, shall we? Take out your weirding modules and follow along in the text - when the record makes a sound like this (R2D2 Noise) it's time to turn the page.
Basil/Applejack/Whatever came here with an unpopular opinion; maybe he was nursing it for months, maybe he's just a weird dude. I don't know. In all likelihood he's exactly what others have said in response - just really, really stupid in this thread. He should probably get a medal for posting as long as he did here with this feeling of being put-upon eating up his brain. But I digress: I don't know the guy really, beyond this board and Facebook. Maybe he was having some bad days. Maybe he got part of his head bashed in in an accident when a truck moving gun parts and golf clubs broadsided him on the sidewalk. The point is, he was apparently waiting for some tiny, tiny, tiny worm to allow him to snap and rage about why he was right about a cartoon show about ponies. Fine, whatever, it's the 21st century and everyone enjoys being a jerk more than having fun. We get it, we've heard it a thousand times over. Record status? Broken. We have plenty of Jack Nicholsons on the board already, we don't need a William Devane.
The problem is that he didn't pick a very good time or place to snap. Instead of having any facts or anything solid to base his wonderful (stupid) opinion on, he decided to grab something vague and uncertain like people throwing verbal blows at him that that others briefly alluded to in some posts and he claims it gives him the right to his own pedestal. It's a fundamental lack of respect. He even posted this on the wrong side of the forum. Not a big deal for me but perhaps a sign of things to come?
Yeah, yeah, we're picking on the little guy with our big strong robots and all they get are those paper cups that have riddles on them. (What do you call a horse with stripes? A zebra! Good one.) Boo-hoo, my years of hard work and money spent and extra special brilliance get me a slightly higher social position in a fake setting that has absolutely no effect on anything else in the universe. And to think I'd just go and amuse myself and others when someone takes something they don't own themselves and trying (failing! A thousand times failing!) to use it as a soapbox for being a jerk. Oh, the injustice of it all.
So don't ask yourself who will help stand up against the poor oppressed little guy who wanted nothing more out of life than to be a pony-jerk at a filmscore message board and somehow be respected for it instead of laughed at - that's the wrong question. Ask yourself, ask us where common decency went? Where did enjoying Jerry Goldsmith go? Where are the good old days and what can I do to help?
You must admit, Basil/Applejack/Seabiscuit/Whatever - appearance is something of a cliche. Who will defend the little guy? Will it be one of the long time users like Sarge, whose opinion everyone respects? Will it be some eloquent, soft spoken new player who has a reasonable new take on the situation? Will it be our mod Allardyce or even our admin Lukas, with amazing magic powers equal to my own and brains that you all know function separately?
No! It's some random like TM2-Megatron in an off-topic thread on the wrong side of the board about nothing to do with filmscore and three people are defending it! What a surprise! We're going to need to put different letters on the cake! He's here to be offended by something that doesn't involve anyone at all! Hurray! Throw the ticker tape, this is so amazing.
And what happens now? Basil's/Applejack's/Mr Ed's/Whatever whose mission in life is to insist that it's wrong for me to take offense at his fundamental lack of respect for the board is now going to insist that *my* fundamental lack of respect for *his* opinion is then somehow terrible! Do you see what happened here? In all his posts, others posts decrying the lack of a fair and just forum you became... me.
Now everybody go talk about Maurice Jarre (whos birthday was yesterday and almost no one here noticed), because this entire line of conversation, this entire thread - nay, the VERY SUBJECT! - deserves exactly as much respect as I've given it in this prose.
[quote]Which brings me to another point: You're certainly entitled to believe that adult males liking a show for girls is creepy, although I STRONGLY disagree. With that same sentiment, I think it's creepy that JJH started a thread about guessing which boobs belongs to which women in the Non-Score Discussion area, and I also think it's creepy that Justin Bielawa, in reference to Irene, recently stated that he does not wish to have his CDs near ten feet of anything wet except for that of a woman's crotch.[/quote]
don't EVER post my last name on here without my consent on this board. How do you even know it? You will edit that out RIGHT NOW.
ONLY on THIS BOARD does a thread like Chesticles exist and people get offended.
I also think it's creepy that Justin Bielawa, in reference to Irene, recently stated that he does not wish to have his CDs near ten feet of anything wet except for that of a woman's crotch.
I said this having many experiences with women.
You said this over a cartoon show about talking horses.
