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I'm just a tad worried how they're going to pack it...
I also hope that LLL packages this in actual boxes when it comes time to ship them. I order quite frequently from LLL, and while the bubble envelopes they typically use have proved more than adequate for even 5 or 6 jewel cases, from the looks of this image:
... this set will warrant packaging that offers greater protection than usual; particularly in the case of shipping to Canada and elsewhere outside the United States.
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As everybody hates me already, I'll say humoristically that I'm looking for glitches and snaps that aren't there.
Nobody enjoys finding glitches more than Trekkies do, so don't believe that anyone here hates you.
I, for one, thought you were great in "Star Trek VI."
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Aug 11, 2012 - 5:06 AM
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A massive undertaking from La-La & co; Aside from the 'Cable Guy' quote (the Kirk Spock fight), I'm largely unacquainted with the TOS scores, any episodes that are worth checking out solely for score?
Yes there are, Francis.
It's difficult to recommend TOS episode music to a person who prefers '80s & '90s films scores over those from the 1960s, but here's my input for whatever it may be worth:
Is There In Truth No Beauty? by George Duning. Duning had written many Golden Age film scores for Columbia until his contract with that studio expired after 1962. Duning wrote music for 6 episodes of STAR TREK during his free-lance period later in his career. Duning provided TREK with the series' most sensitive music, so overall his contributions may be too genteel for the fan of 1980s blockbuster soundtracks. I think the Duning segment which could have the greatest appeal is 1968's "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" because this story has some characters going "mad", and sends the Enterprise hurdling into a psychedelic "void". Duning was the first American composer to use the then-new Yamaha keyboard. Sounds like an electric Organ. Hope you will like it (if you would be so inclined to check out my recommendations, that is).
The Enterprise Incident by Alexander Courage. While Courage scored STAR TREK's 2 pilot shows and set the musical template down for the series' 1st season, the Courage score I recommend most is this 3rd season episode. Providing "ethnic"-sounding music to evoke specific culture or nationality on Earth may not be the easiest of tasks in scoring for films & TV; here, Courage had the un-enviable prospect of depicting aspects of the alien Romulan culture amidst some of the more aggressive features of inter-galactic espionage which this episode showcases. Add into the mixture a female Romulan commander (a MILF at that, too!) who tries to seduce Mr. Spock to defect from the Federation and become her lover and we get some seriously beguiling TV music!
Spectre Of The Gun by Jerry Fielding. Although Fielding's tribbles episode is more famous, I recommend this 3rd season story to any fan of Fielding's Western film soundtracks because "Spectre Of The Gun" is an atypical segment which blends the Sci-Fi and Western genres with late-1960s pop-art aesthetics. Words fail to adequately describe this oddball entry - so just watch it. 
Catspaw by Gerald Fried. Fried wrote for episodes from all 3 seasons of TREK, but Fried's prime time on this series was during its 2nd season. "Catspaw" was scripted by Robert Bloch as the "Halloween" show for 1967. Fried works his own musical magic in this segment which not only contains his trademark brass-n-percussion approach to the series, but utilizes an array of clarinets to characterize the black cat seen throughout the story and provides what is perhaps the series' most salacious seduction music between Kirk and the babe-of-the-week (actress Antoinette Bower, in this case).
There's even some cackling witches singing near the beginning (which Spock calls "bad poetry") which I wonder would be included in this upcoming box set from La La Land.
The Enemy Within by Sol Kaplan. Kaplan scored only 2 segments, but he's highly respected for both. STAR TREK's Robert H. Justman was largely responsible for recruiting composers for Gene Roddenberry's TREK. Justman seems to have lent opportunities to guys who had scored feature films during the 1950s but who were not getting as much film work in the '60s. Kaplan, Duning, Fried, Fred Steiner and Courage all had their high points during some portion of the 1950s.
"The Enemy Within" has darkly-hued menace as well as pathos. It is superb music. Kaplan's music from here was utilized heavily as series stock music, being re-tracked into many 1st season episodes.
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I've just one burning question- for those of us outside the US (I'm in the UK) what will be the safest/best way to purchase the set? Direct from La La or from someone else such as SAE? Do any of them use courier/insured etc for such expensive packages? Customs charges be damned, I need to own this set after loving the show since I was a kid.
And yep, registered interest and got confirmation email back. Only hope they can make enough sets. Wish there was an option to release them as individual season boxes though. Surprised they are going for one monster package, it might disuade many who would have bought them had they been staggered/more wallet-friendly.
I expressed some same issues. I've had some troubles with LLL's shippings. Medal of Honors were quite securely packed in a hard cardboard box, similar to those used by SAE for instance. So I think they'll take this one as seriously as the Medals. I'm still thinking I might order from SAE if it's not too much more expensive there. I've never noticed that any of these retailers would have a insured option.
And I think it would have been better to release this in several volumes and not as such a megabox. But that's just, once again, a Finnish person complaining.
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I know what I'm getting for Christmas. Cannot wait to hear sound samples. Interested in the new fidelity of "The Cage". "Monster Fight" from the GNP release is a sonic mess.
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Aug 11, 2012 - 7:44 AM
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Joe E.
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I am so stoked about this. I'm absolutely crushed by my finances, but somehow, I'll find a way...
sorry i didn't have time to scan this thread. amazing news and an incredible release. can i trade in my gnp discs now that this is coming into being? or are those rerecordings or some other variation that makes them worth saving?
From the sound (heh) of things, I don't think there'll ever be any reason to play them again once one has this new set, but I for one intend to hang onto them for the liner notes and such, if nothing else. Even if the new notes are a zillion times more comprehensive, it's always nice to have additional perspectives and whatnot.
All the library cues will be included--believe me, some of my favorite cues are library cues (especially from season two) and it was paramount (no pun intended) that they all be included in this set. Mark my words--if you heard the music in the series, it is on this set, every variation, every library cue, every source cue I can think of. That, plus stuff you've never heard before--and it all sounds pretty stupendous.
There is some material in stereo--I don't think anyone is going to be disappointed by the sound of this set though. For instance, if you recall the sound of the GNP release of The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before, it's pretty shrill and in fact I found myself rarely going back to listen to that stuff and having sort of a dim view of the music over the years because of that. Now that stuff almost sounds audiophile quality to me, and it's really made me completely reappraise Alexander Courage's music. The Enterprise Incident is another score I never really liked, and now I love it. Also Mullendore's Conscience of the King, which I always found too far outside the style of the rest of the series music, stands out as a real achievement and an absolutely fascinating score. And those are the scores I was NOT all that into previously...to not only get new appreciation for those, but to hear the scores I've always loved for years--Who Mourns For Adonais?, Friday's Child, Metamorphosis, Return to Tomorrow—finally in great sound has been revelatory.
The only rerecording included on the set is the new recording of the TOS main title done for the Trek Remastered series.
Holy cats, I can't believe how astonishingly comprehensive this set is! Every note of every score by every composer, including unused material (!), from every episode of all three seasons of a show that began running over forty-five years ago?! Wow. And I thought the Star Trek - The Motion Picture release was impressive (and I still do, actually).
Thanks so much, guys. I can't wait.
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