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Colpix Records ended up with the Warner Music Group. Most of the soundtracks on that label that can be released have been released by Film Score Monthly.
I'm sure you know this, but for others: FSM did five twofers (so 10 Colpix LPs total):
Bell, Book, and Candle / 1001 Arabian Nights (both George Duning)
The Devil at 4 O'Clock (George Duning) / The Victors (Sol Kaplan)
Lord Jim (Bronislau Kaper) / The Long Ships (Dusan Radic)
Diamond Head (John Williams) / Gone With the Wave (Lalo Schifrin)
Damn the Defiant! (Clifton Parker) / Behold a Pale Horse (Maurice Jarre)
I think there were a decent number remaining yet undone, though FSM clearly wisely prioritized ones more likely to be fan favorites either based on the composer or subject matter (i.e. seafaring)...but I would have been interested in: Lilith (Kenyon Hopkins), Loss of Innocence (Richard Addinsell), The Naked City (George Duning), Nothing But the Best (Ron Grainer)...
I think a pairing with The Interns (Leith Stevens) and The New Interns (Earle Hagen) would have particularly made sense, and FSM liked both composers so I'm surprised it didn't happen.
Yavar
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Feb 11, 2019 - 3:58 PM
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Bob DiMucci
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I'm sure you know this, but for others: FSM did five twofers (so 10 Colpix LPs total):
Bell, Book, and Candle / 1001 Arabian Nights (both George Duning)
The Devil at 4 O'Clock (George Duning) / The Victors (Sol Kaplan)
Lord Jim (Bronislau Kaper) / The Long Ships (Dusan Radic)
Diamond Head (John Williams) / Gone With the Wave (Lalo Schifrin)
Damn the Defiant! (Clifton Parker) / Behold a Pale Horse (Maurice Jarre)
Tapes were not available for all of the Colpix releases. At least three of the last four titles listed (perhaps all four) were mastered from LPs. Although Lucas was willing to go that route for the likes of Williams, Schifrin, and Jarre, he may have felt that it wouldn't be worth it for Addinsell, Grainer, Hagen, and Stevens.
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Yeah that's what I figured (and I was aware of the problems with tapes), but I still think it's a shame that some of those didn't make it to CD. Now I'm fairly certain they never will. If Lukas didn't consider them viable 10 years ago no way would they sell enough to be viable releases now. I do think, since he was allowed to combine titles, that he could have done a budget 3-4 disc set to close the book on the remaining Colpix soundtrack releases with original score on them. Those western boxes sold pretty well, and the much bigger and more expensive MGM Treasury grab bag sold out of its 1200 copies so fast that I missed out on it!
Lukas clearly had a love of Earle Hagen, putting out two volumes of his I Spy music, so I really was surprised he didn't do the Interns twofer. And if he did the other three Dunings, why not Naked City, I wonder? (I'm sure there was a good reason, though.)
Yavar
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And if he did the other three Dunings, why not Naked City, I wonder? (I'm sure there was a good reason, though.)
Only four of the 12 tracks on THE NAKED CITY LP are pure instrumentals. The others all have speaking or vocals. The album is subtitled "A Musical Portrait. Text and Lyrics by Ned Washington. Music by George Duning." In that order. The vocals are done by James Darren, Joann Greer, and The Jud Conlon Singers.
Yeah I know but Diamond Head was in a bit of a similar situation (not many more than 4 straight score cues, right?). I love Duning so much that I would've been happy to get the four instrumentals, and if it was the "B-side" as it were on a two-for-the-price-of-one release, I think no one would have complained.
Yavar
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Some good news for you on Lady in Cement, at least -- Twilight Time released a full isolated score track on their Blu-ray of the film:
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/10809/Lady+In+Cement
Bit of a hassle but you could buy that and rip the audio.
Yavar
Yeah, I have the two films, Tony Rome and Lady In Cement but the wowing from the original source is a bit difficult to clean up. I was always hoping for a cleaner version or one of the main record labels releasing a better version.
Oh well. I guess something is still better than nothing.
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I'm sure you know this, but for others: FSM did five twofers (so 10 Colpix LPs total):
Bell, Book, and Candle / 1001 Arabian Nights (both George Duning)
The Devil at 4 O'Clock (George Duning) / The Victors (Sol Kaplan)
Lord Jim (Bronislau Kaper) / The Long Ships (Dusan Radic)
Diamond Head (John Williams) / Gone With the Wave (Lalo Schifrin)
Damn the Defiant! (Clifton Parker) / Behold a Pale Horse (Maurice Jarre)
Tapes were not available for all of the Colpix releases. At least three of the last four titles listed (perhaps all four) were mastered from LPs. Although Lucas was willing to go that route for the likes of Williams, Schifrin, and Jarre, he may have felt that it wouldn't be worth it for Addinsell, Grainer, Hagen, and Stevens.
The Colpix library is not controlled by Sony, rather by Rhino (Warner Music). I remember asking why and being told some strange chain-of-title tale having to do with the sale of the label.
Correct—there were few original master tapes available for the Colpix library and they were, if memory serves, being stored in England. They were not well documented: there was no stereo master for Diamond Head, only mono (we used a stereo LP).
For Gone With the Wave, the 1/4" stereo album master suspiciously sounded recorded from a record (you could hear the needle drop) but we used it anyway. I also remember being told the contracts were almost nonexistent for the catalog.
I dimly remember asking about The Naked City and they sent over like a box of tapes because there were various versions of things before the narration was added—but none of it really sounded like score, and it looked like an expensive nightmare to sell 50 copies.
I asked about the other titles, like The Interns and The New Interns, and it was a case where we'd have to do vinyl rips...and to be honest they just weren't very commercial titles, and what I heard of the tracks...well, I'm sure somebody likes them, but I'm afraid they didn't make much of an impression on me. That wouldn't have stopped me had there been a lot of demand, or had they sounded very good, but doing vinyl rips of something that wasn't very good that nobody would buy...that was a bridge too far, even for me!
I'm proud of the ten Colpix soundtrack albums were released across the five CDs—but after that it was diminishing returns and I didn't feel like doing more vinyl rips.
Lukas
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All makes perfect sense, Lukas! I’m just an Earle Hagen nut (and think Kenyon Hopkins is totally underrated) so would have bought one of those 50 copies.  I’m still very grateful for the 10 titles you did get out, since it seems like the original tapes for all of those scores are lost (big shame about The Devil at 4 O’clock and Lord Jim in particular).
Yavar
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Feb 11, 2019 - 11:00 PM
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Bob DiMucci
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I asked about the other titles, like The Interns and The New Interns, and it was a case where we'd have to do vinyl rips...and to be honest they just weren't very commercial titles, and what I heard of the tracks...well, I'm sure somebody likes them, but I'm afraid they didn't make much of an impression on me. That wouldn't have stopped me had there been a lot of demand, or had they sounded very good, but doing vinyl rips of something that wasn't very good that nobody would buy...that was a bridge too far, even for me!
Someone finally did do a vinyl rip release of Stevens' THE INTERNS. It came out on the Jazz In the Movies label in November 2013, backed by Stevens' HELL TO ETERNITY.
https://www.amazon.com/Interns-Arranged-Conducted-Stevens-Eternity/dp/B00GSWL0WQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1549951084&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Interns+Jazz+In+the+Movies
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Although this is bad news on several fronts, I would like to take the time and thank ALL the record labels here and everywhere who go to great lengths to bring the best quality releases of film scores.
You are the Keeper of the Flame and without your connections to the studios and composers we would not have:
The Poseidon Adventure
Capricorn One
Body Heat
Apollo 13
Dracula
The War Wagon
Family Plot
The Deep
North By Northwest
James Bond Expanded Versions
just to name a few and these are but a few of a huge library.
So thank you from this one single voice on the Internet. You have brought me many years of enjoyment.
Sincerely,
Stuart Basinger
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