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Jun 9, 2025 - 10:32 AM
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SchiffyM
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Just, who was saying this, "I cannot wait till Disney and Dreamworks makes the entire catalog in live action?"
Well, no one was, it struck gold a few times, but by and large it has been a loser.
I guess we have to agree to disagree on this one, Ado. It's weird, because I find myself defending this movie here, a movie that I am not the audience for and which I have no prediction whether it will be good or terrible (or somewhere in the middle).
But I mean, who was saying "I cannot wait until they make a movie about a Barbie doll"? Or a sequel to Top Gun thirty-six years later? Or yet another movie about the Manhattan Project? Or a movie about the Super Mario Bros.? I could go on and on, but you get the point – no one was. People didn't know they wanted to see them until they did.
And neither did the studios.
And the thing about the entertainment industry is, the few times you strike gold is what finances all the times you don't.
And this is the last I'm going to say about How to Train Your Dragon, until the next thing I say about it.
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Jun 9, 2025 - 10:42 AM
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Ado
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Just, who was saying this, "I cannot wait till Disney and Dreamworks makes the entire catalog in live action?"
Well, no one was, it struck gold a few times, but by and large it has been a loser.
I guess we have to agree to disagree on this one, Ado. It's weird, because I find myself defending this movie here, a movie that I am not the audience for and which I have no prediction whether it will be good or terrible (or somewhere in the middle).
But I mean, who was saying "I cannot wait until they make a movie about a Barbie doll"? Or a sequel to Top Gun thirty-six years later? Or yet another movie about the Manhattan Project? Or a movie about the Super Mario Bros.? I could go on and on, but you get the point – no one was. People didn't know they wanted to see them until they did.
And neither did the studios.
And the thing about the entertainment industry is, the few times you strike gold is what finances all the times you don't.
And this is the last I'm going to say about How to Train Your Dragon, until the next thing I say about it.
well, I agree with most of that, but I think this is a very specific, highly niche and peculiar thing the studios are doing here, Top Gun, Super Mario, Barbie, those are arguably like Transformers and Marvel and DC. Taking existing IP, except for Top Gun, and making a live action, whereas what we are talking about here is already existing animated catalog and franchises and remaking them, in so called "live action" with pretty mediocre to terrible results, with perhaps one exception, the Branagh Cinderella. Yes, occasionally they hit pay dirt, I can see why Beauty and the Beast sold tickets, and why Lilo did, the rest of this stuff is pretty cynical sausage machine stuff, and it even looks processed like sausage. It is a entirely ugly niche mini-genre of recycled product they manufactured, and almost all of it is pretty darn terrible.
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Jun 9, 2025 - 10:52 AM
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Ado
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The film should be called HOW TO MAKE THINGS WORSE!
I mean, just watch this.
Which one gives you goosebumps? It's not the live-action one, that's for sure!
-Erik-
Totally agree! The music, action and performance was so much better. Dramatic, thrilling and humorous. Need to watch the animated movie again. The live action version is a bit obnoxious and inferior in every way.
That 'live action' clip is about 89% animated, almost none of that is real
I know that, we just say "live action" because they usually have real actors in the leads.
oh, I know you know that, I was stating, I mean, almost nothing there is 'live' except that kid, and some green painted saddle they have him sitting on in the warehouse when they shot that. I guess the wind is real, the had a fan blowing his hair, everything else in that entire clip is software
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Jun 9, 2025 - 11:03 AM
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Solium
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The film should be called HOW TO MAKE THINGS WORSE!
I mean, just watch this.
Which one gives you goosebumps? It's not the live-action one, that's for sure!
-Erik-
Totally agree! The music, action and performance was so much better. Dramatic, thrilling and humorous. Need to watch the animated movie again. The live action version is a bit obnoxious and inferior in every way.
That 'live action' clip is about 89% animated, almost none of that is real
I know that, we just say "live action" because they usually have real actors in the leads.
oh, I know you know that, I was stating, I mean, almost nothing there is 'live' except that kid, and some green painted saddle they have him sitting on in the warehouse when they shot that. I guess the wind is real, the had a fan blowing his hair, everything else in that entire clip is software
Got a chuckle when you said the wind is real.
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Jun 9, 2025 - 11:12 AM
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Ado
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The film should be called HOW TO MAKE THINGS WORSE!
I mean, just watch this.
Which one gives you goosebumps? It's not the live-action one, that's for sure!
-Erik-
Totally agree! The music, action and performance was so much better. Dramatic, thrilling and humorous. Need to watch the animated movie again. The live action version is a bit obnoxious and inferior in every way.
That 'live action' clip is about 89% animated, almost none of that is real
I know that, we just say "live action" because they usually have real actors in the leads.
oh, I know you know that, I was stating, I mean, almost nothing there is 'live' except that kid, and some green painted saddle they have him sitting on in the warehouse when they shot that. I guess the wind is real, the had a fan blowing his hair, everything else in that entire clip is software
Got a chuckle when you said the wind is real.
yeah I can picture one of the CG techies, "hey you guys, we can save a lot of money if we use this thing over here, a 'fan' instead of CGI hair!"
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For whatever it's worth, reviews so far are mostly pretty good.
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/how-to-train-your-dragon-2025/critic-reviews/
best review caption
"Admittedly, How to Train Your Dragon is not terrible like some of the Disney remakes out there, and it's better than almost all of them, but it's not substantial enough to warrant its existence."
I have wondered that exact thing since the first trailer. Why? It's shot for shot recreation. It even makes me wonder what else can John Powell do except score the same movie again. They should have carried the story forward from the last one to established it as a transition to a live action franchise.
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