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This sequence of re-issues is inconsistent.
Volume 1 and the 1st disc of volume 2 are organized by season.
With the 2nd disc of volume 2, the impression is that the entire 2nd season music is next.
With this 3rd volume, though, the 2nd disc is bringing forth 3rd season scores ahead of the remaining scores from season 2.
Does this mean all future volumes will be grouped by composers and not seasons?
Will there be one volume devoted to all of George Duning's music on 2 CDs?
In order to fit everything into stand-alone 2-CD sets, I suppose they had to de-prioritize consistency across sets. Each volume does what it has to do to deliver the goods.
The way my quick and dirty addition came out, all of the George Duning scores would come to something around 161 minutes. That's a little more than they can fit in a 2-CD volume. (And needless to say, I have to play some now.  )
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This sequence of re-issues is inconsistent.
Volume 1 and the 1st disc of volume 2 are organized by season.
With the 2nd disc of volume 2, the impression is that the entire 2nd season music is next.
With this 3rd volume, though, the 2nd disc is bringing forth 3rd season scores ahead of the remaining scores from season 2.
Does this mean all future volumes will be grouped by composers and not seasons?
Will there be one volume devoted to all of George Duning's music on 2 CDs?
In order to fit everything into stand-alone 2-CD sets, I suppose they had to de-prioritize consistency across sets. Each volume does what it has to do to deliver the goods.
The way my quick and dirty addition came out, all of the George Duning scores would come to something around 161 minutes. That's a little more than they can fit in a 2-CD volume. (And needless to say, I have to play some now. )
Actually, I think you could get most of the Duning cues on to two disks if you didn't include the different versions of the Patterns of Force march (which is just French horns and drums) and trimmed 16-17 minutes from the long, repetitive And the Children Shall Lead score, including such cues as "Triacus" (effectively, memorably tracked into the Let That Be Your Last Battlefield opening teaser) leaving complete presentations of Is There in Truth No Beauty? and The Empath for a second disk. But, yes, a very satisfying 2 CD set could be made of Duning's great TOS scores.
My "two cents:"
Disk One
Metamorphosis (30:36)
Return to Tomorrow (18:09)
Patterns of Force (two full versions of march theme, ca. 3:00)
And the Children Shall Lead (excerpts, ca, 20 min of 37 min score)
Disk Two
Star Trek S3 MT (Courage, cond. Hatch, 1:01)
The Empath (32:24)
Is There in Truth No Beauty? (36:39)
Star Trek S3 ET (Courage, cond. Hatch, :41)
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Actually, I think you could get most of the Duning cues on to two disks if you didn't include the different versions of the Patterns of Force march (which is just French horns and drums) and trimmed 16-17 minutes from the long, repetitive And the Children Shall Lead score, including such cues as "Triacus" (effectively, memorably tracked into the Let That Be Your Last Battlefield opening teaser) leaving complete presentations of Is There in Truth No Beauty? and The Empath for a second disk. But, yes, a very satisfying 2 CD set could be made of Duning's great TOS scores.
Except that would defeat the purpose of re-releasing all of the TOS TV series music LLL has the rights to. And that would make a lot of people who weren't able to get the box set unhappy (someone's favorite is gonna get dropped). Bad enough GNP retains the rights to episodes and they can't do a reissue of all of it.
The sequencing of the scores may not be ideal for some folks, but at least they've coming back out.
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Nov 9, 2023 - 6:30 AM
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Broughtfan
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Actually, I think you could get most of the Duning cues on to two disks if you didn't include the different versions of the Patterns of Force march (which is just French horns and drums) and trimmed 16-17 minutes from the long, repetitive And the Children Shall Lead score, including such cues as "Triacus" (effectively, memorably tracked into the Let That Be Your Last Battlefield opening teaser) leaving complete presentations of Is There in Truth No Beauty? and The Empath for a second disk. But, yes, a very satisfying 2 CD set could be made of Duning's great TOS scores.
Except that would defeat the purpose of re-releasing all of the TOS TV series music LLL has the rights to. And that would make a lot of people who weren't able to get the box set unhappy (someone's favorite is gonna get dropped). Bad enough GNP retains the rights to episodes and they can't do a reissue of all of it.
The sequencing of the scores may not be ideal for some folks, but at least they've coming back out.
All I can say is that if LLL released a Duning collection with my suggested sequencing I'd buy it in a heartbeat as you'd still have complete presentations of Metamorphosis, Return, The Empath and In Truth, which would be the scores I would think most people here would want in complete form.
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Getting back to Vol. 3, there's a lot of Steiner gold on it:
WHO MOURNS FOR ADONAIS?
MIRROR, MIRROR
BY ANY OTHER NAME
THE OMEGA GLORY
ELAAN OF TROYIUS
SPOCK’S BRAIN
It's not hard to pick out my favorites: Who Mourns, Elaan of Troyius, and Spock's Brain are all tremendous. I used to wish so much that Steiner had done a third Royal Philharmonic album and covered these three. And here they are.
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It would be nice (although I gather unlikely) if GNP would expand / remaster / re-release / goodify their The Cage / Where No Man Has Gone Before and Amok Time / The Doomsday Machine discs. Or work something out that would be profitable to all. Whatever.
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Can't wait for the George Duning volume.
We are going to wait even longer for the later volumes to receive any George Duning (and Samuel Matlovsky).
Appears we get on Volume 4 both Jerry Fielding's scores, "The Paradise Syndrome" by Fried, the episodes and library cues provided by Courage for the 3rd season ... plus the 'fake' Brahms piano from "Requiem for Methuselah".
Let us know if this all correct or missing anything ...
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Why didntcha just buy the Box?? I'll tell you why...
I did get the 15-CD box set.
So far, I haven't yet purchased these '1701' volumes; I'm just curious who decides which episodes get selected for which installments. Bond, Bulk, Goldwasser, Kendall, Malone or Schwartz?
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Why didntcha just buy the Box?? I'll tell you why...
I did get the 15-CD box set.
So far, I haven't yet purchased these '1701' volumes; I'm just curious who decides which episodes get selected for which installments. Bond, Bulk, Goldwasser, Kendall, Malone or Schwartz?
A lot of the decisions are fairly obvious, and we've made them together.
Lukas
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Why didntcha just buy the Box?? I'll tell you why...
I did get the 15-CD box set.
So far, I haven't yet purchased these '1701' volumes; I'm just curious who decides which episodes get selected for which installments. Bond, Bulk, Goldwasser, Kendall, Malone or Schwartz?
A lot of the decisions are fairly obvious, and we've made them together.
Lukas
Still hoping for more DS9!! 
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DISC 1
1. Main Title/End Title* (3rd Season, Soprano Version, Stereo) 1:15 Arranged by Alexander Courage, Conducted by Wilbur Hatch
Spectre of the Gun
Music Composed and Conducted by JERRY FIELDING
Episode #56, Recorded 7/5/68 • Aired #61, 10/25/68
Total Time: 25:04
2. Melkots’ Warning*/ Hailing Frequencies* M11/M12 5:04
3. It Is Done! M14 1:04
4. Tombstone M15–20 1:20
5. The Clantons Lost/Death Is Real!/Tack Piano (Weird) M21/M22/M23 1:30
6. Good Morning Gents/Draw Clanton M31/M32 1:04
7. Taos Lightning/Teeth Pulling M33/M34 1:22
8. My Name—Doc Holliday/Love Scene in Old West/Chekov Gets Killed M35–40/M41/M42 4:50
9. Not Yet Our Time M44 0:47
10. One Other Place/Any Way You Can/Ten Minutes M51/M52/M53 1:15
11. We’re Trapped/Shoot Out, Part 1 M54/M55–60 3:15
12. Shoot Out, Part 2/Kirk Wins! M55–60/M61/M61A 1:11
13. It’s Gone Sir M62 0:44
14. No Title/Final Curtain* M63+M63B/M63A 1:18
The Paradise Syndrome
Music Composed and Conducted by GERALD FRIED
Episode #58, Recorded 7/19/68 • Aired #58, 10/4/68
Total Time: 37:11
15. Pine Trees/The Amerikinds/Tahiti Syndrome/The Brain Wash M11/M12/M13/M14 3:38
16. Episode Title/Puzzled Kirk/Miramanee/Maximum Warp*/Engine Strain M21/M22/M23/M24/M25 3:35
17. Bad Memory*/Breath of Life*/The New God/Deflection M26/M27/M27A/M28–30 3:34
18. Asteroid/Dilithium M31/M31A 1:55
19. Washday/Salish Fluffed/Potter Kirk/Naming the God/Target*M32/M33/M34/M35/M36 4:20
20. Lazy Lazer/Joining Day M37/M38–40 1:57
21. Meditating Spock/Wedding Dress/Challenge M41/M42/M42A 1:46
22. The Fight/The Ceremony/Listless Spock/Spock Cheats Doctor/Forest Montage/Troubling Dreams/Mud Map M43/M43A/M45/M46/M47–50/M47–50A/M47–50B/M50A 5:11
23. Forever Cooking/Wind/False God M51/M52/M53 2:51
24. Check-Up/Death to a False God/Mind Fusion M54/M55/M61 2:29
25. Back to Reality/The Right Words/Wounded Girl M62/M62A/M62B 2:16
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Requiem for Methuselah
Brahms Paraphrase by IVAN DITMARS
Episode #76, Recorded 1/15/69 • Aired #74, 2/14/69
Total Time: 4:37
27. Pseudo Brahms Esq. M26/M26A 2:22
28. Pseudo Brahms Esq. (alternate ending) M26 2:13
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1. Main Title* (3rd Season, Soprano Version, Monaural) 1:02
Arranged by Alexander Courage, Conducted by Wilbur Hatch
The Enterprise Incident
Music Composed and Conducted by ALEXANDER COURAGE
Episode #59, Recorded 8/5/68 • Aired #57, 9/27/68
Total Time: 36:50
2. Aberrated Captain* M11 3:04
3. Surrounded/Temper, Temper M12/M13 1:14
4. Unfair Exchange M14–20+M14–20B 1:04
5. Vulcanian Cahoots M21 3:34
6. Hemmed In/Vulcanization M22/M31 0:48
7. Konked Kirk M32 3:42
8. Vulcanized M33 1:14
9. Kirk Rekirked M41 1:21
10. Back From Dead/Commandeered M42/M43–50 6:32
11. Back to Business M51 2:14
12. Stolen Device M52 2:51
13. Reworked*/Deposition/Sweaty Scotty M53/M54/M55–60 1:50
14. Free Enterprise* M61 6:20
15. Ear Bob* M62 0:36
Plato’s Stepchildren
Music Composed and Conducted by ALEXANDER COURAGE
Episode #67, Recorded 10/25/68 • Aired #65, 11/22/68
Total Time: 26:46
16. Giant Dwarf* M11 0:46
17. Meet the Folks/Soaring Syringe M12/M13 1:09
18. Episode Titles M14 0:46
19. Delirium Parmen’s* M15–20 2:34
20. Reluctant Guests/Psychokinetic Effect M21/M21A 0:30
21. The Frog (Alexander’s Song) (vocal: Michael Dunn) M22A 0:27
22. Slap Unhappy M23 0:41
23. Cut Off/I Hear You Calling M24/M25+M25A 0:46
24. Psychokinetic Shenanigans/Stopped Cold M26/M31 1:18
25. Groveling Kirk M32+M32A 2:47
26. Dancing Spock M33 3:49
27. Spock Brought/New Talent M41/M51 0:54
28. The Aristocrats/Flung About M52/M53 1:25
29. Orgy Porgy M55–60 5:59
30. Brain Bout M61 1:52
31. The Little Visitor* M62 0:38
Whom Gods Destroy
Music Composed and Conducted by Alexander Courage
Episode #71, Recorded 10/25/68 (With “Plato’s Stepchildren”)
Aired #69, 1/3/69
32. Arab Hootch Dance (Hootchie Kootchie) LM133 1:44
The Way to Eden
Songs by Arthur Heinemann,
Charles Napier and Craig Robertson
Music Director: Wilbur Hatch
Episode #75, Recorded 11/20/68 • Aired #75, 2/21/69
Total Time: 7:27
33. Beam-In Sweetener M6 0:04
34. Looking for a New Land (vocal: Charles Napier) MV1 1:31
35. Like Hail (vocal: Napier) MV3 0:13
36. Hey, Out There! (vocals: Charles Napier and Deborah Downey) MV2 2:48
37. Far Out Jam (William Pitman) M8/MV5A 1:14
38. Headin’ Out to Eden (vocal: Napier) MV4 1:04
39. Headin’ Out to Eden (instrumental tags) M7A tk 2, 1 0:24
40. End Title* (3rd Season, Soprano Version, Monaural) 0:45 Arranged by Alexander Courage, Conducted by Wilbur Hatch
Total Disc Time: 75:04
* Contains “Theme From STAR TREK (TV Series)” by Alexander Courage and Gene Roddenberry
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Volume 5 is now available
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Music by George Duning
Theme from Star Trek by Alexander Courage
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RETAIL PRICE: $29.98
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Vol. 5 of the 1701 Collection focuses on the Trek TOS music of renowned composer George Duning, with the “Star Trek Theme” by Alexander Courage, and contains original music from the classic episodes METAMORPHOSIS, RETURN TO TOMORROW, PATTERNS OF FORCE, IS THERE IN TRUTH NO BEAUTY? and THE EMPATH, along with MAIN and END TITLES. Produced by Lukas Kendall, Neil S. Bulk and Jeff Bond, restored by Chris Malone and mastered by Doug Schwartz, this limited edition 2-CD release of 1701 units, as well as forthcoming volumes of this series, illustrate how the original Trek series scores not only teem with action, adventure and drama, but how they are infused with deep emotion and the greatness of the human spirit. Such characteristics have kept these richly orchestrated tracks vital and relevant decades beyond their original recording.
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"The Best of Both Worlds" was not omitted -- the cues controlled by GNP were, but the unreleased cues were on the Jones box.
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