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 Posted:   Nov 15, 2024 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I’ve listened to the soundtrack a couple of times, and to be honest – I was shocked at how less interesting it was compared to hearing it in the film itself. So the challenge came to whittle it down, should I decide to keep it. I set a minimum duration of 25 minutes, if it was less than that it wouldn’t be worth it. But that became a challenge as well. Still, landed on this, 34 minutes in total of pretty decent stuff, and we’ll just have to see how much I’ll play it, and how long it stays in my digital collection:



But you didn't include any of the battle sequence music? That's the best part!

I agree with your overall assessment of the score, but that track with "The Roman Invasion" is what I find the most gripping part of the score. "Strength and Honor" and "Echoes of Eternity" are also good, plus the return of the battle music in "War, Real War".

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2024 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I felt the battle/action music was mostly generic stuff. I kept some of it in, but removed quite a bit -- including that 8-minute cue in the beginning that starts off reasonably well, but then meanders.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2024 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I felt the battle/action music was mostly generic stuff. I kept some of it in, but removed quite a bit -- including that 8-minute cue in the beginning that starts off reasonably well, but then meanders.

This is one of those times when you and I are on opposing sides of a topic! I really like the driving nature of the "Roman Invasion" section of that track, the string flourishes and punchy trombones, while the track overall I felt meandered in the first half and only gained focus once the battle material begins.

Admittedly, if we're comparing this battle/action music to Zimmer's original GLADIATOR score, then yep, it's a step down. Everything in Zimmer's original score was melodically driven and there were multiple themes always in play, which we don't get here in the sequel score, unfortunately.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2024 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Just watched the film. Good, but of course not a classic like the first.

Score was mostly unremarkable, with no new themes to speak of. I liked those high flutes that reminded me slightly of Vangelis though.

And great to hear Now We Are Free again.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2024 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Is anyone vibing with this at all? After my initial disappointment that Zimmer/Gerrard weren't coming back I held hope due to what I have liked from HGW in the past. And then I really loved "Strength and Honor" when it dropped as a single a few weeks ago. I set my expectations there. Unfortunately I've listened to this whole album twice today because of my general enthusiasm but I find it to be remarkably generic. Maybe my enthusiasm for Golijav's Megalopolis and it wearing a fascinating Golden Age influence on its sleeve is coloring my disappointment. We shall see how it plays in the movie!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2024 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Is anyone vibing with this at all? After my initial disappointment that Zimmer/Gerrard weren't coming back I held hope due to what I have liked from HGW in the past. And then I really loved "Strength and Honor" when it dropped as a single a few weeks ago. I set my expectations there. Unfortunately I've listened to this whole album twice today because of my general enthusiasm but I find it to be remarkably generic. Maybe my enthusiasm for Golijav's Megalopolis and it wearing a fascinating Golden Age influence on its sleeve is coloring my disappointment. We shall see how it plays in the movie!

I was measuredly looking forward to this one considering the hype, but at first listen I was surprised at how measured and uninteresting it came across. Maybe it’ll grow on me but at first listen it is pretty generic.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2024 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   richuk   (Member)

Is anyone vibing with this at all? After my initial disappointment that Zimmer/Gerrard weren't coming back I held hope due to what I have liked from HGW in the past.

Generic seems to be a recurring word, and yep, that's what I think too. I've listened through it once and the battle music was fairly unengaging and really could've come from any film. Some of the earlier atmopsheric material has some interest to it, but a lot of the second half just got rather uninteresting.

Ridley's a strict taskmaster when it comes to scores so I wonder whether his general instructions to HGW were to stay out of the way - he'd ask for changes (or outright reject) if he didn't like what he was getting.

Certainly, I've parked my potential plan to ask for the CD for Christmas. I'll give it another try soon to see if it engages me any more now that I know the direction he went.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2024 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Saw the film this afternoon. A worthy sequel but wasn’t really needed.

The score fitted very well and did its job. Hans Zimmer’s themes were definitely memorable when they appeared .

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2024 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   lostinscores   (Member)

My favorite part of Gladiator were the first 30 minutes. No real need to watch the sequel for me.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2024 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

CD just arrived. cool

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2024 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Which tracks contain Zimmer's themes?

Graham

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2024 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Reviews are out. Just another sequel which more or less uses the identical plot of the original film but worse with CGI rhinos and monster baboons. A guy is riding a rhino, really?!?! Haven't heard the score yet. Hope its good.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2024 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Reviews are out. Just another sequel which more or less uses the identical plot of the original film but worse with CGI rhinos and monster baboons. A guy is riding a rhino, really?!?! Haven't heard the score yet. Hope its good.

Don’t forget the sharks.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2024 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Mugradius   (Member)

Listening to this now, as an H G-W fan, it isn't a patch on the original unfortunately. Zimmer's work seemed a lot grander - I'm sure those with more technical know-how could put into words what I mean - but G2 sounds much more processed to my ears.

Also, I swear I just heard a drum loop from The Bourne Identity in the track "Angry Baboons"... It took me right out as I know that score very well (at 0:56 for those wondering and continuing through the track).

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2024 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Listened to this on YouTube. Four cues in and it was pretty boring but it got better as it went along. It was decent enough but I don't know if it merits repeat listens. I'll have to see if it grows on me. Doesn't hold a candle to Zimmer's score though.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2024 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Listening to this now, as an H G-W fan, it isn't a patch on the original unfortunately. Zimmer's work seemed a lot grander - I'm sure those with more technical know-how could put into words what I mean - but G2 sounds much more processed to my ears.

Also, I swear I just heard a drum loop from The Bourne Identity in the track "Angry Baboons"... It took me right out as I know that score very well (at 0:56 for those wondering and continuing through the track).


Maybe a little rough but the whole score sounded to me like a generic drum loop. I liked the film ok but there was too much music and no compositional through line.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2024 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

What really annoys me is that almost every track on the album has either at the beginning or at the end - or in worst cases, both - a rather long intro or outro which usually goes nowhere just keep meandering for minutes before the actual melody begins. Should these be eliminated from the album it would make a much better the listening experience.

After my first listen I must say it is a pity Zimmer didn't return. All the best parts of this score are either Zimmer's melodies or have their roots in them. He said he didn't want to do the sequel but, c'mon, he has scored so many sequels during his career I don't really see why he let this particular project go into another composer's hands.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2024 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


After my first listen I must say it is a pity Zimmer didn't return. All the best parts of this score are either Zimmer's melodies or have their roots in them. He said he didn't want to do the sequel but, c'mon, he has scored so many sequels during his career I don't really see why he let this particular project go into another composer's hands.


I'm speculating entirely on this, but I think it is largely because Zimmer does not like working for Ridley Scott as a director. While they have some amazing collaborations together, some of Zimmer's best if you ask me, I think they had a contentious falling out. Matchstick Men was their last work together, 21 years ago. It was a bit of a blessing that Zimmer came back into Scott's camp to score Blade Runner 2049 for Denis Villeneuve but that burgeoned into a new relationship for Zimmer with another influential director in the modern age and from what we know now R. Scott has stated he wishes he was more involved with the production of BR2049 because he was dissatisfied with the box office results.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2024 - 11:02 PM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)


After my first listen I must say it is a pity Zimmer didn't return. All the best parts of this score are either Zimmer's melodies or have their roots in them. He said he didn't want to do the sequel but, c'mon, he has scored so many sequels during his career I don't really see why he let this particular project go into another composer's hands.


I'm speculating entirely on this, but I think it is largely because Zimmer does not like working for Ridley Scott as a director. While they have some amazing collaborations together, some of Zimmer's best if you ask me, I think they had a contentious falling out. Matchstick Men was their last work together, 21 years ago. It was a bit of a blessing that Zimmer came back into Scott's camp to score Blade Runner 2049 for Denis Villeneuve but that burgeoned into a new relationship for Zimmer with another influential director in the modern age and from what we know now R. Scott has stated he wishes he was more involved with the production of BR2049 because he was dissatisfied with the box office results.


I honestly think what Zimmer said is just the truth. Gladiator was a monumental score. Whether people like to admit it or not, it is one of those iconic scores of the last 30 years. And it wasn't just pop-crazed acclaim like the Pirates scores. It was both critically and commercially successful, inside and outside the industry. I honestly believe Zimmer doesn't think he can add anything else to it without going a completely different direction.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2024 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

My husband and I enjoyed this movie. HGW's music was fine in the movie, but it lacked themes except for Zimmer's themes.

 
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