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 Posted:   Jan 3, 2019 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Since this release used copy of the GNP showed up at AMOEBA.
Recommendations?

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2019 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Since this release used copy of the GNP showed up at AMOEBA.
Recommendations?


It's a good basic CD if you just want much of the Williams music, some of the unaired pilot and both themes. The Williams stuff is most entertaining, I rarely went back to the Sandy Courage music.

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2019 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Since this release used copy of the GNP showed up at AMOEBA.
Recommendations?


It's a good basic CD if you just want much of the Williams music, some of the unaired pilot and both themes. The Williams stuff is most entertaining, I rarely went back to the Sandy Courage music.


Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2019 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Superb release with an almost endless amount of wonderful music. So happy to hear something by my late friend Irving Gertz, but there are quite a few composers normally not represented on CD that are equally great to hear. Liner book is beautiful and informative as well. You'll regret not getting this if you love classic sci-fi television music and it sells out.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2019 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   Dr Smith   (Member)

Superb release with an almost endless amount of wonderful music. So happy to hear something by my late friend Irving Gertz, but there are quite a few composers normally not represented on CD that are equally great to hear. Liner book is beautiful and informative as well. You'll regret not getting this if you love classic sci-fi television music and it sells out.Got

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2019 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   Dr Smith   (Member)

Superb release with an almost endless amount of wonderful music. So happy to hear something by my late friend Irving Gertz, but there are quite a few composers normally not represented on CD that are equally great to hear. Liner book is beautiful and informative as well. You'll regret not getting this if you love classic sci-fi television music and it sells out.

Got my copy a couple of days ago, and I feel very satisfied with the quantity and quality of the music represented here.
I am actually not an accredited fan of the TV Series itself, but I highly value this type of background music.
Who knows what the market will reveal, but purchasing 4 CDs with over an hour each of great music is a no brainer for an old 70's guy like me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2019 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   AndrewH   (Member)

Great set and I'm still convinced that A Small War has echoes of John Barry's theme to OHMSS which would have been showing at that time.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2019 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Yes, it's definitely OHMSS (just like his pulsing suspense music in several episodes seems like a salute to Schifrin's Bullitt). When doing the booklets for this sort of thing it's always an issue as to whether to acknowledge the influences, temp track or otherwise, on a score. We have had cases where the studio explicitly does not want these things pointed out for legal reasons (as you know there have been cases where composers are sued over things like this). My approach in general is to acknowledge homages to classical works that are more or less in the public domain (although at times even that is discouraged) but not to get into similarities to other scores--for "A Small War" I just said something like "a James Bond vibe" which allows listeners to fill in the blanks. There's a little more leeway when the project is older and the individuals in question are deceased but for the most part it's bad form to be leveling accusations in a liner notes booklet which is intended to promote the movie/show and music in question, and ultimately we rarely know what the backstory is for these situations.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2019 - 10:17 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

We have had cases where the studio explicitly does not want these things pointed out for legal reasons (as you know there have been cases where composers are sued over things like this).

I had a studio not want it mentioned in liner notes that the director or producer wanted to use some Public Domain songs to keep the budget down. They thought it wouldn't show their film in a good light. Good grief! The film is considered a classic!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2019 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   Bill Cooke   (Member)


Loving this release. On Disc 4 now, and was kind of shocked how extensively LaSalle used Ralph Vaughan Williams' music from SCOTT OF THE ANTARCTIC (later the basis of his Symphony No. 7) for the episode "A Place Called Earth."

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2019 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Oh well, the Season 2 theme without the cat noise must be lost.

Sadly, it is gone.

Neil


When I read that the sound fx were included, I immediately thought "if Neil Bulk couldn't find it, it's gone." Thanks!!


That's very flattering. We found one recording of it. It started off okay and then about 5 seconds in it just started degrading and getting worse and worse. It was totally unreleasable. I couldn't even use it to fill in the sections with the sound effects. It just died. It was heartbreaking.

But there's a ton of other music that was salvageable and that's what's on this album. Enjoy!

Neil


A cogent reminder that when we feel like complaining we need to remember the backbreaking work you and the other teams of restorers do to get every possible note you can. Thank you, Neil, truly, for this and all the other restorations you've done.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   charles124   (Member)

Richard LaSalle: he was the man behind the sound of the second year. As much as he took from the POTA score (either under orders or on his own volition), he was a solid craftsman. His self quoting was very strong, however. Listening to his scores on this set, you can actually get a large portion of his music for the 1971 City Beneath the Sea. The only thing missing is the closing theme of that TV movie, which would make for a fun release. If the elements survive…




BTW, that POTA music used by Goldsmith was around LONG before POTA in some westerns...scored by LaSalle. So either LaSalle worked on POTA or THAT was stolen. I've heard it in at least two westerns from the 1950s and 60s and maybe even a Vietnam movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   charles124   (Member)

So how did this sell? Wondering if there will be a another CD? I highly doubt it though. I tried to promote it as much as possible but some "fans" are....well, tough. And irritable.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 1:55 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

So how did this sell? Wondering if there will be a another CD? I highly doubt it though. I tried to promote it as much as possible but some "fans" are....well, tough. And irritable.

No idea, charles. I just wanted to say that you sound awfully like Charles Thaxton, and if that's the case, I hope your health issues are under control. And if you're not Charles Thaxton, well keep healthy anyway.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I'd love to know the names of the westerns that invented POTA before POTA BTW.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Me too! How intriguing. I'd be very shocked if Jerry Goldsmith decided the imitate some western cues by LaSalle in his avant garde sci-fi score, but you never know...

I guess one could just seek out every Richard LaSalle western score that preceded PotA? I'm not sure there are too many of them, judging by IMDb...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055343/?ref_=nm_flmg_com_69

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I'd be very shocked if Jerry Goldsmith decided the imitate some western cues by LaSalle in his avant garde sci-fi score

It's a silly claim. Over the years here, I've seen people make all sorts of claims for where composers "got" some melody or other. There was some famous movie theme – I can't remember which – that had a similar precedent in a 1960s commercial somebody here found on YouTube, and he claimed that that was where the melody had been stolen from. Like whatever famous film composer was scouring old commercials for inspiration. (Granted, one never knows what's rattling around in the back of one's brain.)

The line where plagiarism is drawn is obviously a point of some contention. Obviously, all composers – even the most avant grade – build on the work of their predecessors (as they must). So I don't think Goldsmith would claim there were no musical precedents for any part of even a groundbreaking, brilliant score like "Planet of the Apes." But I very seriously doubt he thought "This is where I can rip off LaSalle!"

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Double post. Wanna make something of it?

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 8:44 PM   
 By:   NUMBER 6   (Member)

was there music score for every episodes or they used John Williams and others music as they did in SPACE:1999 ?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2019 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

POTA is not completely original - Goldsmith reused his own riffs from earlier scores. LaSalle might have also borrowed from Goldsmith's earlier scores for those westerns. Those westerns would have to pre-date any of Goldsmith's film music to be solely by LaSalle (or whomever else he borrowed from). And Goldsmith did alot of notable production or radio music, so LaSalle could have borrowed from that, but I dont know if that music has any proto-POTA riffs.

 
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