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Hey, you forgot MANNEQUIN, AIRWOLF, FLETCH, RED HEAT (Tangerine Dream), VISION QUEST and STREET HAWK!
Sure, I'll take those too!
I'll take a soda pop too, though I wouldn't bestow it "holy grail" attributes just because. 
Not?
Sad for you, then.
On the contrary, quite relaxing actually that I don't feel the need to sacrifice all for a bit of sugar water. :-)
I'm not sacrificing anything.
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Hey, you forgot MANNEQUIN, AIRWOLF, FLETCH, RED HEAT (Tangerine Dream), VISION QUEST and STREET HAWK!
Sure, I'll take those too!
I'll take a soda pop too, though I wouldn't bestow it "holy grail" attributes just because.
Not?
Sad for you, then.
On the contrary, quite relaxing actually that I don't feel the need to sacrifice all for a bit of sugar water. :-)
I'm not sacrificing anything.
But for a holy grail one would. :-)
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Hey, you forgot MANNEQUIN, AIRWOLF, FLETCH, RED HEAT (Tangerine Dream), VISION QUEST and STREET HAWK!
Sure, I'll take those too!
I'll take a soda pop too, though I wouldn't bestow it "holy grail" attributes just because.
Not?
Sad for you, then.
On the contrary, quite relaxing actually that I don't feel the need to sacrifice all for a bit of sugar water. :-)
I'm not sacrificing anything.
But for a holy grail one would. :-)
Speak for yourself.
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On the contrary, quite relaxing actually that I don't feel the need to sacrifice all for a bit of sugar water. :-)
I'm not sacrificing anything.
But for a holy grail one would. :-)
Speak for yourself.
It's not "speaking for myself", it's what the term "holy grail" generally implies, something of enormous and high (and actually unique) value. Otherwise, it's just a mere "I would love these soundtrack releases wish list", which is then obviously nothing special anymore and certainly not a "holy grail" in any relevant contextual meaning of the term.
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It's not "speaking for myself", it's what the term "holy grail" generally implies, something of enormous and high (and actually unique) value. Otherwise, it's just a mere "I would love these soundtrack releases wish list", which is then obviously nothing special anymore and certainly not a "holy grail" in any relevant contextual meaning of the term.
One can have multiple "grails" with equal desire for each.
"Holy Grail - a thing that is being earnestly pursued or sought after. By analogy, [any] elusive object or goal of great significance may be perceived as a holy grail by those seeking it."
So, if you have multiple things being earnestly pursued or sought after you have multiple Holy Grails, whether it's a couple or a hundred. Simple stuff, really.
Sure, anyone can do whatever they want and have however many "holy grails" as they see fit, just as I can decide whose "holy grails" I take seriously and whose I relegate to "just another word for wish list" status. It's a free world. 
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Sure, anyone can do whatever they want and have however many "holy grails" as they see fit, just as I can decide whose "holy grails" I take seriously and whose I relegate to "just another word for wish list" status. It's a free world.
The term is used facetiously. For most of us, Grail is a term of self-deprecating irony, to joke that we want our music as devoutly as if it were a religious quest. But we don't mean it literally, as if one score could have infinite metaphysical significance. We mean a list of scores would have that. We all have a list.
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Sure, anyone can do whatever they want and have however many "holy grails" as they see fit, just as I can decide whose "holy grails" I take seriously and whose I relegate to "just another word for wish list" status. It's a free world.
The term is used facetiously. For most of us, Grail is a term of self-deprecating irony, to joke that we want our music as devoutly as if it were a religious quest. Be we don't mean it literally, as if one score could have infinite metaphysical significance. We mean a list of scores would have that. We all have a list.
Perfectly stated Zap.
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Why hasn't anyone in all these responses mentioned Barry's "Mary, Queen of scots"? Other than a truncated re-recording accompanying his "Lion in Winter" by Silva, I'm unaware of any versions of this minor masterpiece -- original or otherwise -- in existence. Am I wrong?
What about the Decca album of the soundtrack recording, which was re-relased by Intrada on CD and is currently available on Geffen for streaming and download?
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Sure, anyone can do whatever they want and have however many "holy grails" as they see fit, just as I can decide whose "holy grails" I take seriously and whose I relegate to "just another word for wish list" status. It's a free world.
The term is used facetiously. For most of us, Grail is a term of self-deprecating irony, to joke that we want our music as devoutly as if it were a religious quest. But we don't mean it literally, as if one score could have infinite metaphysical significance. We mean a list of scores would have that. We all have a list.
Oh, who would have thought? No churches, no temples, no secret ordinances? Just fans who want soundtracks? Whaat is this world coming to.
Yeah, perfectly clear, however, there is usually a distinction -- and that is how I would use the term "holy grail" in a soundtrack collecting context -- between soundtracks that are the absolute top wishes, the ones where you would give up many other soundtracks for, or just a bucket list of things one would like. Generally, even in its idiomatic sense, "holy grail" is meant to mean the thing most sought after, yet very difficult or almost impossible to obtain in a whatever field. So if one comes with a list, I'm just "yeah, right".
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For me, it would have to be the full film-version score of Supergirl (1984) with the synth swooshes.
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Why hasn't anyone in all these responses mentioned Barry's "Mary, Queen of scots"? Other than a truncated re-recording accompanying his "Lion in Winter" by Silva, I'm unaware of any versions of this minor masterpiece -- original or otherwise -- in existence. Am I wrong?
The soundtrack LP was released on CD by Intrada in 2008, it's a short album, but in great sound, I'm very happy I have it, as once it sold out (3000 copies, it didn't take that long) it was never rereleased. The US DVD had an isolated score track, as does the forthcoming UK Blu-ray release next month, but I understand that the music is in mono.
If I had to choose just one "holy grail" it would be Max Steiner's Helen Of Troy (1956), but it would need a big expensive new recording, along the lines of The Alamo & Fall Of The Roman Empire, & I just can't see that happening.
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Why hasn't anyone in all these responses mentioned Barry's "Mary, Queen of scots"? Other than a truncated re-recording accompanying his "Lion in Winter" by Silva, I'm unaware of any versions of this minor masterpiece -- original or otherwise -- in existence. Am I wrong?
The soundtrack LP was released on CD by Intrada in 2008, it's a short album, but in great sound, I'm very happy I have it, as once it sold out (3000 copies, it didn't take that long) it was never rereleased.
As I said up there, while it has not been re-released on CD, it is available from various outlets to stream and/or as 16bit/44.1kHz download.
https://www.qobuz.com/de-de/album/mary-queen-of-scots-john-barry/h3xmm91r1djsc
If I had to choose just one "holy grail" it would be Max Steiner's Helen Of Troy (1956), but it would need a big expensive new recording, along the lines of The Alamo & Fall Of The Roman Empire, & I just can't see that happening.
I would definitely buy such a re-recording. Heck, I know there are some people here who champion for a re-recording of Hugo Friedhofer's Joan of Arc. I don't recall if I ever saw the movie (perhaps as a kid), so I'm not familiar with the score, but I would absolutely support and/or buy a re-recording of that score as well. (I think Hugo Friedhofer is a terrific composer.)
As far as I can tell, all those re-recording projects of golden age classic film scores are passion projects, where people really want to do them, because in all likelihood, they will lose money. So whenever there is one of those, I am usually very interested, because if some passionate producer/conductor/label team thinks a score is worthy of a re-recording, it usually is.
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