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 Posted:   Jun 11, 2025 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

My critique may differ a bit but pretty much what I expected. Doesn't mean it won't make a billion dollars. Lilo and Stitch looks to make a billion dollars along with Moana 2. Both awful movies.



yeah, kinda come back to what was said earlier, 'not sure why it exists, aside from greed'


Its sad, families are starving for a reason to go back to the theater which is why I think a few subpar films like Moana 2 and Lilo kill it at the box office. Most of these remakes and sequels bomb but as long as a one or two make a billion the studios see that as a green light to keep making more.


precisely, it is a crass nostalgia manipulation game, and it works sometimes.

I learned through our recent discussion on this and Snow White, that, oddly, quite a few people view movies far more like, not artistic product, but like buying a shirt, or a sandwich. For them, movies are basically disposable, almost irrelevant aside from that 2 hours in the theater. So for them, one hamburger or one movie is basically the same as any other, you eat it, done, forgotten. It is a very strange thing, because for me, movies are art, and sometimes like religion, and I know you are that way too. I would say that disposable view of movies as merely a product and not art is pretty sad and culturally inept.

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2025 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

My critique may differ a bit but pretty much what I expected. Doesn't mean it won't make a billion dollars. Lilo and Stitch looks to make a billion dollars along with Moana 2. Both awful movies.



yeah, kinda come back to what was said earlier, 'not sure why it exists, aside from greed'


Its sad, families are starving for a reason to go back to the theater which is why I think a few subpar films like Moana 2 and Lilo kill it at the box office. Most of these remakes and sequels bomb but as long as a one or two make a billion the studios see that as a green light to keep making more.


precisely, it is a crass nostalgia manipulation game, and it works sometimes.

I learned through our recent discussion on this and Snow White, that, oddly, quite a few people view movies far more like, not artistic product, but like buying a shirt, or a sandwich. For them, movies are basically disposable, almost irrelevant aside from that 2 hours in the theater. So for them, one hamburger or one movie is basically the same as any other, you eat it, done, forgotten. It is a very strange thing, because for me, movies are art, and sometimes like religion, and I know you are that way too. I would say that disposable view of movies as merely a product and not art is pretty sad and culturally inept.


100%! Ive said this for years too. I feel that loss and it saddens me movies and art in general have become "disposable". Just a cheap quick fix, a dopamine hit. Then its onto the next dopamine hit. It's done everlasting damage to the art form.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2025 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

My critique may differ a bit but pretty much what I expected. Doesn't mean it won't make a billion dollars. Lilo and Stitch looks to make a billion dollars along with Moana 2. Both awful movies.



yeah, kinda come back to what was said earlier, 'not sure why it exists, aside from greed'


Its sad, families are starving for a reason to go back to the theater which is why I think a few subpar films like Moana 2 and Lilo kill it at the box office. Most of these remakes and sequels bomb but as long as a one or two make a billion the studios see that as a green light to keep making more.


precisely, it is a crass nostalgia manipulation game, and it works sometimes.

I learned through our recent discussion on this and Snow White, that, oddly, quite a few people view movies far more like, not artistic product, but like buying a shirt, or a sandwich. For them, movies are basically disposable, almost irrelevant aside from that 2 hours in the theater. So for them, one hamburger or one movie is basically the same as any other, you eat it, done, forgotten. It is a very strange thing, because for me, movies are art, and sometimes like religion, and I know you are that way too. I would say that disposable view of movies as merely a product and not art is pretty sad and culturally inept.


100%! Ive said this for years too. I feel that loss and it saddens me movies and art in general have become "disposable". Just a cheap quick fix, a dopamine hit. Then its onto the next dopamine hit. It's done everlasting damage to the art form.


I am so glad you are back and writing with us, friend

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2025 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Thxs Ado. We advocate for improving the arts not dumbing them down.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2025 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I remember back in 1994 when I read that they were going to make a non-animated version of The Flinstones. Imagine my dismay. After all, I had grown up watching the animated version of the Flinstones and now my 3 year old and 4 year old were enjoying an animated piece of my childhood. Oh no, I thought, what will this do to my memories of Fred, Wilma, Barney, Betty, Pebbles, Bam-Bam and most of all DINO! How can they possibly represent Fred and Barney driving their cars like they do in Bedrock? Don't even mention Mr. Slate. Who would they get to play this role??? After seeing a mere preview, I was adamant that I would boycott this assault on a classic.

At the urging of a fellow mom, I put aside my disdain and skepticism and together we took 4 kids under 5 to see the movie (yes, bad Moms here - it was rated PG). I can report that we all survived the movie and all six of us had a blast and actually laughed. My memories of an animated version of Bedrock and all the beloved characters who reside there remain intact. My children suffered no trauma from seeing John Goodman, Rick Moranis et al on the screen. Actually, when I told them they saw the movie when it came out, they both swear they don't remember it. Wait, could that be a form of repression???

The film grossed $130.5 million US and Canada. Do I care? Nope. After all, it gave the director the funds he needed for The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas. Don't get me started on that cheap follow-up. I still haven't gotten over that one.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Now out wherever its already Friday



1 This Is Real Berk (7:48)
2 I Hit a Night Fury (2:03)
3 I Want to Be One of You Guys (1:21)
4 Conference of the Tribes (2:12)
5 He's Not That Boy (1:19)
6 Searching the Woods (3:26)
7 Home in the Ring (2:37)
8 First Dragon Training (3:57)
9 Sketches of a Wounded Dragon (2:43)
10 Our Most Valuable Possesion (3:01)
11 I'm Beginning To Question Your Teaching Methods! (3:47)
12 A Really Forbidden Friendship (4:47)
13 Carefully Attaching (2:48)
14 Charming the Zippleback (1:43)
15 He Has a Way with the Beasts (4:28)
16 Test Driving Toothless (3:06)
17 Top Slayer (2:28)
18 Caught Designing Outfits (2:26)
19 A Romantic Flight (2:28)
20 Taken to the Dragons' Nest (2:05)
21 Should We Tell Your Father? (1:40)
22 Waiting To Enter the Ring (2:29)
23 The Trial of Flame (4:58)
24 You're Not My Son (3:12)
25 What Are You Going To Do About It? (3:36)
26 Prelude to a Battle (2:18)
27 Meeting the Queen (4:18)
28 Allied Forces (4:32)
29 The Wings of the Beast (2:56)
30 Finding Hiccup (4:11)
31 We Have Dragons (2:52)
32 You Are My Homeward (1:45)
33 ..and finally, The End Credits Suite (6:28)
TOTAL TIME - 105:48

https://music.apple.com/nz/album/how-to-train-your-dragon-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/1813026214
https://www.qobuz.com/nz-en/album/how-to-train-your-dragon-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-john-powell/yc93x5uxjsqka
etc

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'll give the score a chance. I just hope its a lot better than what was heard in that flying sequence.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This sounds so small and processed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

Such a bizarre film and score. This really didn't need to be made.

The key moments from the score are basically the same as the animated score. Good for Powell - it was probably the easiest project to get paid for. But honestly, I think I would have preferred to have heard what someone else would have done.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

They should re-name it How to Milk your Audience When you are Creatively Bankrupt for New Ideas

Too long?

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I've listened to the new score album and it is INCREDIBLE. This is not just the 2010 score with occasional new bits added, there is lots of new material, and lots of wonderful re-orchestrations of original material, and it all blends together beautifully.

This is the best score of the year!

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Fascinating. I found these two cues extremely underwhelming. I’ll give my final opinion when I get a chance to listen to the whole score.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Sadly, I have absolutely ZERO interest in listening to this album, much like I have ZERO interest in seeing the film.

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Fascinating. I found these two cues extremely underwhelming. I’ll give my final opinion when I get a chance to listen to the whole score.

hey, maybe the whole orchestra is also a live action reboot, ya know, CGI musicians

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2025 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   jb-martin   (Member)

I've listened to the new score album and it is INCREDIBLE.

I completely agree with Jason.
I am a huge fan of the 2010 version, and I think John Powell has done an incredible job with this 2025 version. It's not just a copy and paste job. All the orchestrations have been reworked, and there are new melodies throughout. Listening to it in Dolby Atmos is a treat. I cried with joy many times. Long live orchestral film music!

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2025 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

CD up for pre-order from Mondo.
https://mondoshop.com/collections/all/products/how-to-train-your-dragon-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-2xcd

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2025 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Anthony N.Putson   (Member)

Do the likes of Amazon (UK) pick Mutant releases up at all?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2025 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I've listened to the new score album and it is INCREDIBLE.

I completely agree with Jason.
I am a huge fan of the 2010 version, and I think John Powell has done an incredible job with this 2025 version. It's not just a copy and paste job. All the orchestrations have been reworked, and there are new melodies throughout. Listening to it in Dolby Atmos is a treat. I cried with joy many times. Long live orchestral film music!


Thanks for this positive input. I'm seeing the film next week and can't wait to hear the music.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2025 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Do the likes of Amazon (UK) pick Mutant releases up at all?

Well, this getting a physical release from Mondo not Mutant...

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2025 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

It's actually available as either 2xCD or 3xLP
https://mondoshop.com/products/how-to-train-your-dragon-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-2xcd
https://mondoshop.com/products/how-to-train-your-dragon-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-3xlp

CD:


$30

Mondo Music, in partnership with Back Lot Music, is proud to present the HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON – Original Motion Picture Soundtrack 2xCD.

Featuring the soaring original score by John Powell, this 2-disc CD digipak comes complete with an 8-page booklet.

Expected to ship in August 2025

Mastered by Patricia Sullivan at Bernie Grundman Mastering


LP:


$70

Mondo Music, in partnership with Back Lot Music, is proud to present the HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON – Original Motion Picture Soundtrack 3xLP.

Featuring the soaring original score by John Powell, this triple LP is pressed on 3x 140 gram Night Fury Colored Vinyl with fire-singed labels and features a tri-fold jacket housed inside a deluxe textured board slipcase.

Expected to ship in October 2025

Mastered by Patricia Sullivan at Bernie Grundman Mastering
Packaging details: Tri-Gatefold Jacket Housed in a Deluxe Textured Board Slipcase
Pressed at GZ Media
Rpm 33 1/3
Vinyl color: Night Fury Vinyl
Vinyl weight: 140g


same for both:


The legend is real.

From three-time Oscar® nominee and Golden Globe winner Dean DeBlois, the creative visionary behind DreamWorks Animation’s acclaimed HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON trilogy, comes a stunning live-action reimagining of the film that launched the beloved franchise.

On the rugged isle of Berk, where Vikings and dragons have been bitter enemies for generations, Hiccup stands apart. The inventive yet overlooked son of Chief Stoick the Vast, Hiccup defies centuries of tradition when he befriends Toothless, a feared Night Fury dragon. Their unlikely bond reveals the true nature of dragons, challenging the very foundations of Viking society.

With the fierce and ambitious Astrid and the village’s quirky blacksmith Gobber by his side, Hiccup confronts a world torn by fear and misunderstanding. As an ancient threat emerges, endangering both Vikings and dragons, Hiccup’s friendship with Toothless becomes the key to forging a new future. Together, they must navigate the delicate path toward peace, soaring beyond the boundaries of their worlds and redefining what it means to be a hero and a leader.
Now, through cutting-edge visual effects, DeBlois transforms his beloved animated saga into a breathtaking live-action spectacle, bringing the epic adventures of Hiccup and Toothless to life with jaw-dropping realism as they discover the true meaning of friendship, courage and destiny.

Two-time Academy Award® nominee John Powell also returns to revisit his exhilarating score for the original film, for which he received his first Oscar® nomination, with themes familiar and new as part of his latest orchestral masterwork.

“John Powell is the first person I called about doing HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON as a live action movie,” says DeBlois. “The music that John creates is iconic ... What he does with the melodies he creates are like narrative harmonies to what's front and present in the story."

“This is a big film with a joy of life and a joy of flying and heartbreak of families and the redemption of knowing that one person who's determined can change everything,” says Powell. “We go to the cinema to enjoy the pleasures of imagination and invention, the rich colors in the visuals, in the sound and in the music.”






Song lyrics available thanks to this preview image:

 
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