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 Posted:   May 8, 2024 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

"The Best of Both Worlds" was not omitted -- the cues controlled by GNP were, but the unreleased cues were on the Jones box.

Not all of them, actually:
https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/notes/box05_disc12.html#ep5

"In 1991, GNP/Crescendo released Jones’s scores from both parts on CD (GNPD 8026) as “Volume Two” of their series of The Next Generation soundtracks. This pre-existing album contractually limited FSM to releasing no more than five minutes of music recorded for the “The Best of Both Worlds,” whether previously released or not.

Disc 12, tracks 35–40 feature exactly 5:00 of unreleased music: short cues left off the GNP/Crescendo CD to facilitate a better album experience, but included here to flesh out the scores’ subtler moments."

Of course, the remaining unreleased cues over that strict five minute limit were indeed premiered later on GNP's complete edition of the score:
https://store.gnpcrescendo.com/2/product/star-trek-the-next-generation-the-best-of-both-worlds-iii-expanded-collectors-edition-of-the-original-television-soundtrack/

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2024 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

I've started enjoying the Next Generation scores only recently via the FSM and LLL box sets. Do I understand correctly that I would need to get the GNP vol 3 & 4 (+ expanded vol 1 and 2) if I wanted to get all the music from the series?

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2024 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yes, GNP's Vols. 3 & 4 will probably never been expanded or revisited at this point (same goes for the DS9 & Voyager pilot scores) since their expansion of Vol. 1 (Encounter at Farpoint) apparently did not fare as well sales-wise as the expansion of Vol. 2 (Best of Both Worlds) or the three movie scores they controlled.

So in addition to those four GNP discs (including two expanded ones), you will need:
GNP's The Best of Star Trek ("Heart of Glory" was released complete on the Ron Jones box set, but this features an exclusive orchestral suite for "The Inner Light"):
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Best_of_Star_Trek,_Volume_One
GNP's The Best of Star Trek Volume Two (for the suite from "All Good Things...", only a bit of which was revisited later):
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Best_of_Star_Trek,_Volume_Two

The Ron Jones Project from FSM

LLL's two 3CD TNG volumes
LLL's 50th Anniversary 4CD set, which is almost *half* previously-unreleased TNG music:
https://lalalandrecords.com/star-trek-50th-anniversary-collection-musical-rarities-from-across-the-star-trek-universe-limited-edtion-4-cd-set/
LLL's The Final Frontier 4CD set, which features a full disc of only TNG music:
https://lalalandrecords.com/star-trek-collection-the-final-frontier-limited-edtion-4-cd-set/

I think that's everything. Quite a bit, really... more hours of music than any other Trek series has had released, to date! And still there are unreleased series cues that some people are pining after!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2024 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

Thanks for the info Yavar. OK sounds like I need a few more GNP's than I thought. I do have all the LLL. I've always been partial to the original series- starting to warm to these though!

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2024 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


Vol. 5 of the 1701 Collection focuses on the Trek TOS music of renowned composer George Duning, with the “Star Trek Theme” by Alexander Courage, and contains original music from the classic episodes METAMORPHOSIS, RETURN TO TOMORROW, PATTERNS OF FORCE, IS THERE IN TRUTH NO BEAUTY? and THE EMPATH, along with MAIN and END TITLES.


This means that Duning's AND THE CHILDREN SHALL LEAD will be pushed to the final volume along with THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES by Fielding & Samuel Matlovsky's I, MUDD (plus a grab bag of assorted other items such as Wilbur Hatch's music for Abraham Lincoln from THE SAVAGE CURTAIN).

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2024 - 3:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Wow, we’re almost done with the collection. I was hoping they could pull a miracle late in the game and get licensing for the remaining music from the box set. But I guess not.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2024 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   juhana   (Member)

Wow, we’re almost done with the collection. I was hoping they could pull a miracle late in the game and get licensing for the remaining music from the box set. But I guess not.

I wonder why library music based on the GNP-controlled scores has been left out though? At least on quick glance, one would think their ownership would consist of the actual recordings of those scores themselves, so does their copyright claim extend as far as the written score material then? What sort of legal details are involved with this?

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2024 - 5:05 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It’s a shame they didn’t release it in two disc sets originally instead of a super expensive $250 dollar box set. But I’m glad for a second chance to get most of the music. But it will always irk me the 1701 series is incomplete.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2024 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

It’s a shame they didn’t release it in two disc sets originally instead of a super expensive $250 dollar box set. But I’m glad for a second chance to get most of the music. But it will always irk me the 1701 series is incomplete.

I hate to say this but you had a LONG time to get the big set when it was available. It sold out but not right away. If you wanted everything you wouldve gotten everything while it was available. Believe me I know how you feel but…this is what happens when folks wait on things.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2024 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It’s a shame they didn’t release it in two disc sets originally instead of a super expensive $250 dollar box set. But I’m glad for a second chance to get most of the music. But it will always irk me the 1701 series is incomplete.

I hate to say this but you had a LONG time to get the big set when it was available. It sold out but not right away. If you wanted everything you wouldve gotten everything while it was available. Believe me I know how you feel but…this is what happens when folks wait on things.


I understand there was plenty of time to get it, IF you could afford it. But some of us can’t put out that much all at once, or simply weren’t able to financially afford it at the time.

I guess you could argue I could have saved $25 dollars a month until I had enough money, but I wasn’t forward thinking.

A $30 dollar set every few months is just more doable. As I said I’m happy to get a second chance on the 1701 series even if it’s not everything.
I hope it’s selling well for them.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2024 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

It’s a shame they didn’t release it in two disc sets originally instead of a super expensive $250 dollar box set. But I’m glad for a second chance to get most of the music. But it will always irk me the 1701 series is incomplete.

At the same time, getting everything (except a couple of cues released later) all at once was exactly what I wanted. It was one of those purchases that was so important that I saved and even sold a bunch of CDs back to SAE just to help pay for it. I was lucky to be able to do it, as I was rarely in a position to make a lump purchase like that. But considering the importance of it to me and the significance the music held during my lifetime, I was gonna buy it no matter what. The box is THE Holy Grail in my music library.

I'm grateful that everyone who missed it has another opportunity to get the majority of the music on disc. I hope GNP at some point releases the scores being held back. They're important in the context of the series.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2024 - 6:07 PM   
 By:   Micki Moreau   (Member)

I scored the 15 CD set on ebay tonight for under $400, and I'm tickled pink as I missed it the first go. Patience is a virtue smile

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2024 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

It’s a shame they didn’t release it in two disc sets originally instead of a super expensive $250 dollar box set. But I’m glad for a second chance to get most of the music. But it will always irk me the 1701 series is incomplete.

At the same time, getting everything (except a couple of cues released later) all at once was exactly what I wanted. It was one of those purchases that was so important that I saved and even sold a bunch of CDs back to SAE just to help pay for it. I was lucky to be able to do it, as I was rarely in a position to make a lump purchase like that. But considering the importance of it to me and the significance the music held during my lifetime, I was gonna buy it no matter what. The box is THE Holy Grail in my music library.

I'm grateful that everyone who missed it has another opportunity to get the majority of the music on disc. I hope GNP at some point releases the scores being held back. They're important in the context of the series.


Right. I also was in no position financially at the time to get it. But it was one of those things I did and damn the consequences because it was a no brainer of a holy grail. The set was available for at least a couple of years. So folks had plenty of time to grab it even if you saved 20 bucks a month for it.

But its got everything and everything was very much appreciated too!

 
 
 Posted:   May 15, 2024 - 1:00 AM   
 By:   Kentishsax   (Member)

It’s a shame they didn’t release it in two disc sets originally instead of a super expensive $250 dollar box set. But I’m glad for a second chance to get most of the music. But it will always irk me the 1701 series is incomplete.

At the same time, getting everything (except a couple of cues released later) all at once was exactly what I wanted. It was one of those purchases that was so important that I saved and even sold a bunch of CDs back to SAE just to help pay for it. I was lucky to be able to do it, as I was rarely in a position to make a lump purchase like that. But considering the importance of it to me and the significance the music held during my lifetime, I was gonna buy it no matter what. The box is THE Holy Grail in my music library.

I'm grateful that everyone who missed it has another opportunity to get the majority of the music on disc. I hope GNP at some point releases the scores being held back. They're important in the context of the series.


Right. I also was in no position financially at the time to get it. But it was one of those things I did and damn the consequences because it was a no brainer of a holy grail. The set was available for at least a couple of years. So folks had plenty of time to grab it even if you saved 20 bucks a month for it.

But its got everything and everything was very much appreciated too!


I didn't have the funds when it was released and nor at any moment whilst the box was available and not now. Even financing the individual sets every few months is not easy but I'm doing it. One would think in forty non stop years of working, one would be in a better position but the opposite is the case. Cost of living and supporting one's family, which of course will always come first, as it should.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2024 - 4:13 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Maybe once the 1701 series goes out of print I can sell my copies for inflated prices and make enough back to buy the box set at an inflated price? big grin

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2024 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   Captain_Kaos   (Member)

Maybe once the 1701 series goes out of print I can sell my copies for inflated prices and make enough back to buy the box set at an inflated price? big grin

Save your money for the complete "Star Trek: The Next Generation-Box". smile

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2024 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

I hope GNP at some point releases the scores being held back. They're important in the context of the series.

It would also be great if they could release remastered version of the Voyager and DS9 pilot scores and for their Next Generation scores, especially their Vol. 3
https://www.discogs.com/de/master/656570-Dennis-McCarthy-Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-Volume-Three-Music-From-The-Original-Television-Soundt

They did a great job with the new edition of the Farpoint CD and the "Arsenal of Freedom" bonus score.

 
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