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 Posted:   Jan 4, 2024 - 12:06 AM   
 By:   Bishop   (Member)

Interesting!

Thanks Mike for your detailed response and thanks Jason for your extremely fast reply - both is highly appreciated! smile

One more question though: is the same true for the 2012 release?
The film version on the second disc being by Ralph Grierson and the version on the first disc being by Michael Lang?

I'm mainly asking because the playing times of the supposed Michael Lang track differ so much: 2:25 vs. 4:24!

Cheers!

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2024 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Mike Lang performed on the original composition (1M4 Yuppie Sounds) on October 26th, 1991 at Fox, recorded by Armin Steiner. This recording was released as "Banning Back Home (Extended Version)" on the Ultimate Edition, was was previously available in edited form as "Banning Back Home" on the original soundtrack album (carried over onto the 2012 expansion).

At some point after it was recorded, the footage in the sequence was changed around (and shortened), so a revised composition (1M3B Yuppie Sounds) was recorded at MGM by Shawn Murphy on November 13th, 1991 with Ralph Grierson. This version is "Banning Back Home (Film Version)" on the Ultimate Edition. The 2012 release had this composition taken off the film's music stem (so took with it any edits made for the final dub), but on the Ultimate Edition it's from the same 1st generation master as the rest of the score.

I hope that clears everything up.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2024 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Bishop   (Member)

Wonderful!
The effort that must have went into this detailed reply is again highly appreciated, Jason!

Thank you very much! smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2024 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

These two clips were always interesting to me, from Kermode & Mayo's film program on the BBC, both talks with Spielberg, with quick mentions of Hook.

From January 25, 2013, listen starting at 18:32 for about a minute:




Then from November 20, 2015 go to ~16:25 and let it go for about a minute:


 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2024 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Hey Jason or Mike, I have another question about Banning Back Home if you're up for answering it. I cut together the OST from the Ultimate Edition and discovered one note (literally) I couldn't find. There is a double drumbeat at about 1:53 on the OST. The same moment is at 2:04 on Banning Back Home (Extended Version), but it only has a single drumbeat. I didn't find the double-drum anywhere else. Do you know if it was created editorially, or is it performance and I just missed it?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2024 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   rocketman   (Member)

Can't wait to pick this up when it stays in stock for more than a few days!
(Glad it is selling so well for LLL)

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2024 - 4:18 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Bmp

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2024 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


NEW PODCAST EPISODE!
'HOOK - THE ULTIMATE EDITION' PODCAST SPECIAL PART 2
The Legacy of John Williams rings the new year with the long-awaited Part 2 of the HOOK podcast special on La-La Land Records' monumental, best-selling release of John Williams' soundtrack for Steven Spielberg's 1991 fantasy epic!
Producer Mike Matessino returns to discuss more of the musical contents of the 3-disc Ultimate Edition, together with associate producers and co-writers of the liner notes John Takis and Jason LeBlanc.
During the conversation, the trio of special guests dissect all the riches found in the treasure chest of this John Williams’ score, analyzing the score’s main themes, how the songs’ melodies were reworked into the thematic fabric of the piece and offering their own thoughts and reflections on the film and its score.
LISTEN tinyurl.com/23xppnvk
Available on all major podcasting platforms.


https://www.facebook.com/thelegacyofjohnwilliams/posts/pfbid02BV9ZRkyw7iFaDzrmrqMHkMZq7YmoEvtbcKvx3YSNuymymyV1LP2ip1xbQde8wQ73l



https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2023/12/27/hook-podcast-special/

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2024 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   rocketman   (Member)

Man, I really want this now after listening to both parts of that show. I have been patiently waiting for what I hoped would at least be a rerelease (since I missed the first LLL edition) so the extra disc is just a dream come true. Hope LLL gets this back in stock soon!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2024 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   faceless007   (Member)

I was able to get in an order on Christmas Day while it was briefly in stock again and my CC has been charged, but it's now 1/9 and my order is still "Awaiting Fulfillment". I hope it's just delays in getting back to shipping orders after the holidays!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2024 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Maestro Sartori   (Member)

Mike Matessino, I just wanted to share that I got to see Hook in the theaters twice upon release. The first time, I was alone. The second time, was with my parents the night before I was to fly out after having been sworn in and enlisted in the Air Force. My mother, after watching the film with me, wrote me a letter to take with me and read on the way to San Antonio, Texas. In it, she described the joy she had upon my birth compared to Peter's joy in the memory of his firstborn son, Jack in the film. The next year, I was listening to The Face of Pan on the original soundtrack as I walked off the plane and met my parents in the airport six months later.

This new soundtrack brings all those memories back, fresh, with every listen. To you, Jason, John, John Williams, Leslie Bricusse, and Steven Spielberg, you've made the last 33 years worth the wait. Thank you.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2024 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

What a great story! Thank you for sharing that example of how music can bend time and connect people.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2024 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   Santa Adam   (Member)

LLL delivered a nice package today with bubble wrap to spare. Should be a fun whittling weekend.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2024 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I already loved the HOOK score it's one of my all time favorites, but this new release is sensational! BTW, I remember going to the opening of The Mall of America back in August 1992 and thought Camp Snoopy, as it was called at the time, kind of looked like Neverland from HOOK.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2024 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)


NEW PODCAST EPISODE!
'HOOK - THE ULTIMATE EDITION' PODCAST SPECIAL PART 2
The Legacy of John Williams rings the new year with the long-awaited Part 2 of the HOOK podcast special on La-La Land Records' monumental, best-selling release of John Williams' soundtrack for Steven Spielberg's 1991 fantasy epic!
Producer Mike Matessino returns to discuss more of the musical contents of the 3-disc Ultimate Edition, together with associate producers and co-writers of the liner notes John Takis and Jason LeBlanc.
During the conversation, the trio of special guests dissect all the riches found in the treasure chest of this John Williams’ score, analyzing the score’s main themes, how the songs’ melodies were reworked into the thematic fabric of the piece and offering their own thoughts and reflections on the film and its score.
LISTEN tinyurl.com/23xppnvk
Available on all major podcasting platforms.


https://www.facebook.com/thelegacyofjohnwilliams/posts/pfbid02BV9ZRkyw7iFaDzrmrqMHkMZq7YmoEvtbcKvx3YSNuymymyV1LP2ip1xbQde8wQ73l



https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2023/12/27/hook-podcast-special/



What a fabulous and entertaining discussion on the score with all those details coming out of the themes and the songs that are so integral to the narrative. I didnt want this discsussion to end. Maybe a third podcast ?

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2024 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

My apologies if I missed this in the liner notes and supplemental booklet but I don't think it is listed. Who are the vocalists on the following tracks?

Disc 1, Track 2 and Disc 3, Track 1 - We Don't Wanna Grow Up
Disc 3, Track 2 - God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen
Disc 3, Track 11 - The Never Song
Disc 3, Track 16 - Stick With Me

And thank you all for this magnificent release. It's a real treasure and elevated my appreciation for this score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2024 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Mark malmstrom   (Member)

Just heard the podcast

mike's breakdown with how these release come to be - and espcially the person involved

this person actually represents something that happens all around

an individual that thinks he knows how to do it and are not on par with what the fans actually wanted

another soundtrack producers who likes to include his interviews all the time is another such person like the one mentioned in the podcast

we also see these trait in other areas in this world where a person not on par with the fans thinks he know how to do it


i can easily understand why William's personal want Mike to handle the score-releases

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2024 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


My apologies if I missed this in the liner notes and supplemental booklet but I don't think it is listed. Who are the vocalists on the following tracks?

Disc 1, Track 2 and Disc 3, Track 1 - We Don't Wanna Grow Up
Disc 3, Track 2 - God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen

AFM singers, presumably


Disc 3, Track 11 - The Never Song
Disc 3, Track 16 - Stick With Me

Unknown!

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2024 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)


My apologies if I missed this in the liner notes and supplemental booklet but I don't think it is listed. Who are the vocalists on the following tracks?

Disc 1, Track 2 and Disc 3, Track 1 - We Don't Wanna Grow Up
Disc 3, Track 2 - God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen

AFM singers, presumably


Disc 3, Track 11 - The Never Song
Disc 3, Track 16 - Stick With Me

Unknown!


Thanks for your prompt response, Jason, but really? No clue? Guesses?

I only ask again because everything else was so painstakenly researched.

[Edit] Again, bravo for this release. It is nothing if not thoroughly complete. Release of the year contender.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2024 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

The songs were sent to many of the singers on the project and to key people in the session singer community going back nearly two years, and no one could ID those voices. (And I was quite paranoid that doing this would result in news about the release leaking out!)

The Guild ultimately asserted that our efforts were satisfactory and that we could proceed with the release of the tracks, with the understanding that payment in kind would be made if we ever find out who the voices are, and also that I see that their credits are added to any new printings of the packaging, plus update the metadata.

The Guild actually didn't have anything on file for the movie whatsoever, not even the choir list (yet they did on the Home Alone scores, so it's a mystery).

 
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