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 Posted:   Jan 28, 2023 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Phil567   (Member)

When I was a kid back in the '70's and watched re-runs of the old Patty Duke Show my friend's mother insisted that whenever Patty and Cathy appeared together on screen at the same time there was always a vertical line of some sort in between Patty and Cathy (like for instance the edge of a door or a door frame or something).

She claimed that this was evidence of the "cutting and pasting" necessary since Patty and Cathy were played by the same actress.

Anyone else heard of this theory?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2023 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Patty Duke's double in some scenes in the series was Rita McLaughlin.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2023 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Seems to be true. I suspect that the cinematographer used the vertical lines as a reference point to ensure that Duke's actions when portraying one character did not stray into the space reserved for the other character.





 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2023 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Patty Duke's double in some scenes in the series was Rita McLaughlin.


Patty Duke and her double Rita Walter (née McLaughlin).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2023 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Phil567   (Member)

Seems to be true. I suspect that the cinematographer used the vertical lines as a reference point to ensure that Duke's actions when portraying one character did not stray into the space reserved for the other character.


Thanks for posting these pictures. Yes, I see that my friend's mother did have a point after all about the vertical lines.

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2023 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

She was a huge crush.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2023 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Oh I loved this show and hadn't even reached my teens during its original airing. That was for my sister who was about 2 years younger than Patty. Anyway, I think I can recite the opening theme song (and KNOW I can still recite Car 54) and the great swingin' arrangement of it for the closing credits remains in the mind's ear. One scene that sticks out is the time she's listening and dancing to a Frankie Avalon love ballad and she's dreaming her dance partner is Frankie and of course that's him in the scene. When the song ends she close her eyes and let's the kiss linger, opens 'em and it's Richard who is absolutely wowed. LOL it was quite a romantic moment and I want to see this ep again right now.

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2023 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   purplemonkeydishwasher   (Member)

Patty Duke & Frankie Avalon - These Are the Good Times:



smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2023 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

You have made my day.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2023 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'd take Frankie Avalon's place.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2023 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

On Star Trek when "The Enemy Within" was about to be filmed, cinematographer Jerry Finnerman didn't know how the split screen effect was done. He called some DP at another studio who explained it to him. I probably read that in the book Inside Star Trek.

There's at least one early episode of The Beverly Hillbillies where Jethro and Jethrine appear in a split screen shot. Max Baer, Jr. was a better actor than he ever got the credit for.

The Parent Trap in 1998 had the computer technology for Lindsay Lohan to play both twins and amazingly cross herself on screen, and even appear to touch or hand over an object when a scene called for it. It was really well done. Good movie, too. Patty Duke is in it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2023 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   Phil567   (Member)

On Star Trek when "The Enemy Within" was about to be filmed, cinematographer Jerry Finnerman didn't know how the split screen effect was done. He called some DP at another studio who explained it to him. I probably read that in the book Inside Star Trek.

There's at least one early episode of The Beverly Hillbillies where Jethro and Jethrine appear in a split screen shot. Max Baer, Jr. was a better actor than he ever got the credit for.

The Parent Trap in 1998 had the computer technology for Lindsay Lohan to play both twins and amazingly cross herself on screen, and even appear to touch or hand over an object when a scene called for it. It was really well done. Good movie, too. Patty Duke is in it.


It would have been funny if in the 1998 version of the Parent Trap, Patty Duke appeared along with her identical cousin Cathy.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2023 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Regarding Patty Lane, we're informed that a hot dog makes her lose control. I've looked at this from every angle, and I've concluded, ultimately, that the statement is poetic. It's not meant in a narrow, literal sense. It's more that she becomes unruly when presented with any of the processed meats as an entrée.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2023 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

On Star Trek when "The Enemy Within" was about to be filmed, cinematographer Jerry Finnerman didn't know how the split screen effect was done. He called some DP at another studio who explained it to him. I probably read that in the book Inside Star Trek.

There's at least one early episode of The Beverly Hillbillies where Jethro and Jethrine appear in a split screen shot. Max Baer, Jr. was a better actor than he ever got the credit for.

The Parent Trap in 1998 had the computer technology for Lindsay Lohan to play both twins and amazingly cross herself on screen, and even appear to touch or hand over an object when a scene called for it. It was really well done. Good movie, too. Patty Duke is in it.


Actually that was pioneered in Zemeckis Back to the Future.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2023 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Regarding Patty Lane, we're informed that a hot dog makes her lose control. I've looked at this from every angle, and I've concluded, ultimately, that the statement is poetic. It's not meant in a narrow, literal sense. It's more that she becomes unruly when presented with any of the processed meats as a fast food entrée.

LOL you scamp. I used to love that lyric and grew to appreciate the hyperbole, especially when we were taught in school that the hot dog was more popular in England than the hamburger. And being of decided baseball fandom didn't hurt either. Grew up with the 18-hot dog Babe Ruth legend. Oh man loved the dogs at Yankee and Shea Stadiums they were so easy to down. In fact, have one every Saturday and Sunday for a snack here in my creeping older age. With Gulden's mustard of course.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2023 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I'd take Frankie Avalon's place.

Patty really was a cutie in that scene. She had the fantasy of every teenage girl back then. Great satire too with Avalon and Frenchy in Grease. The scene below was something of the same fantasy but in real life. For me it is evocative of the era in its innocence and charm--

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2023 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Phil567   (Member)

Regarding Patty Lane, we're informed that a hot dog makes her lose control. I've looked at this from every angle, and I've concluded, ultimately, that the statement is poetic. It's not meant in a narrow, literal sense. It's more that she becomes unruly when presented with any of the processed meats as an entrée.

I remember thinking that line was odd.

I think "hot dog" was meant to be parallel/in contrast with "crepes Suzette":

Cathy adores:

minuets
ballet Russe
crepes Suzette

Patty loves

rock and roll
hot dogs

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2023 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Phil567   (Member)

I recall how in the song, it was "Cathy" but "our Patty". In other words Cathy was the Other, the alien in our midst.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2023 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   purplemonkeydishwasher   (Member)

Cathy adores:

minuets
ballet Russe
crepes Suzette

Patty loves

rock and roll
hot dogs


What a wild duet!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2023 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Thanks a lot, guys, for the earworm that won't go away.

 
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