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 Posted:   Nov 18, 2016 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Not a big fan of lutefisk, even though it's a staple of traditional Norwegian Christmas meals. I much rather prefer pork ribs or 'pinnekjøtt' ('stick meat' -- made from lamb or mutton, prepared with sticks), ....

It's time for me to chase this down again!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2016 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I would not recommend eating lutefisk, or anything else, while watching this entertaining, dark comedic Norwegian film about an art thief who steals one painting too many (dvd has optional English language track and subtitles):
HEADHUNTERS (2011) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1614989/

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2016 - 4:37 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I would not recommend eating lutefisk, or anything else, while watching this entertaining, dark comedic Norwegian film about an art thief who steals one painting too many (dvd has optional English language track and subtitles):
HEADHUNTERS (2011) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1614989/


He, he...they're actually working on an American remake right now.

You're free to try out lutefisk, David, but at your own peril! Be prepared for a very 'jelly'-like consistency.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2016 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

He, he...they're actually working on an American remake right now.

We only steal from the best. wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2016 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Holy maracas, willya look at what this (pinnekojt)...



...set me back!



TWENTY-ONE DOLLARS A POUND. Can you believe it? Call-Boys don't even charge THAT much!

And it looks pretty plain. I'm guessing I'm supposed to dress it up with a sauce or something, to make it festive, holiday-worthy.

So to our Nordic Friends: Is this really it? I just heat it in the oven and I'll feel more Nordic, more socialized democrat-ic, or something?

Do I need to serve it a special way?

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2016 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

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 Posted:   Dec 9, 2016 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

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 Posted:   Dec 10, 2016 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've eaten pinnekjøtt many times (it's delicious!), but I have no idea how to prepare it. It needs to be served with potatoes and puréed swede. You probably need to google around for recipes. I also know that it takes MANY hours to prepare properly. Good luck! smile

Here's a recipe:

http://www.scandikitchen.co.uk/recipe-pinnekjott-traditional-norwegian-christmas-dinner/

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2016 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)



 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2016 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I've eaten pinnekjøtt many times (it's delicious!), but I have no idea how to prepare it. It needs to be served with potatoes and puréed swede. You probably need to google around for recipes. I also know that it takes MANY hours to prepare properly. Good luck! smile

Here's a recipe:

http://www.scandikitchen.co.uk/recipe-pinnekjott-traditional-norwegian-christmas-dinner/


30 hours of soaking, then 3 hours of cooking. Wow. Well, this is going to happen mostly in my slow-cooker, 'cause I ain't sitting in the apartment waiting for the silly thing to finish.

Thanks for the heads-up, Thor.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2016 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, you don't have to sit around and wait. Just let it do its own work while you do other stuff. Eat something else the day before. Not sure how well a slow cooker works, and I don't think it will attain the same result, but wort a shot if it's on your menu the same day, I guess.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2016 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

TWENTY-ONE DOLLARS A POUND. Can you believe it? Call-Boys don't even charge THAT much!

"Norwegian Wood"?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2016 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

aaaaaaaaah you guys are late on all the lutefisk talk; waaaaaaaaaaaay ahead o' ya:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=11197&archive=1

But that's not important, this is; from today's (print) NY Times:

Will ‘Skam,’ a Norwegian Hit, Translate?
By RACHEL DONADIODEC


OSLO — “Skam,” a racy, emotionally intense, true-to-life Norwegian web and television series, follows a group of Oslo teenagers as they navigate sex, school, drinking, depression, rape, religion, coming out and the pains of status anxiety, in real life and online.

The show is bound for the United States and Canada, courtesy of Simon Fuller, the English entertainment entrepreneur who concocted “American Idol” (and its British predecessor, “Pop Idol”) and managed the Spice Girls. On Friday, Mr. Fuller’s company, XIX Entertainment, announced a deal with the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation (NRK) to produce an English-language version called “Shame.”

Created by NRK and aimed at teenage girls, “Skam” has become a sensation across Scandinavia with viewers of many ages, thanks to a clever multi-platform format and social media strategy. Each week, four to six short scenes are posted on the broadcaster’s website, without warning, at the same time the scenes are set — a Saturday night party, a Tuesday morning class — and then bundled into a full episode each Friday.

That approach — intimate portrayals, letting the digital releases drive the linear TV version, giving each fictional character an Instagram account — caught the attention of Mr. Fuller.

The English-language version will have new characters and actors but use the show’s format, and NRK will consult. Production is expected to start next year. “We are exploring all content outlets,” Mr. Fuller said in an email. “‘Shame’ works across all platforms and that is what gives it a point of difference. We are looking to innovate and push the boundaries of how modern content is viewed and experienced.” (Neither NRK nor XIX would comment on the financial details.)

“Skam,” a low-budget operation, was originally created for NRK’s children’s division to draw more young viewers to its site. Now finishing up its third season, it’s become the most-watched web TV show in Norwegian history since it first aired in September 2015, averaging 1.2 million unique visitors a week to the site and more than a million people streaming the weekly TV episode, in a country with a population of five million people. NRK has confirmed it will produce a fourth season.

Teaming up with XIX Entertainment is a huge leap. “It’s crazy,” said Julie Andem, 34, the show’s creator, writer and director.

Each season of “Skam” centers on one character. Season 3, which wraps up next week, has focused on Isak (Tarjei Sandvik Moe), who is coming to terms with being gay and has fallen for an older boy, Even (Henrik Holm).

Isak’s big reveal is quiet and understated. (He comes out to his best friend in person, and to his mother via text message.) In another scene, Isak discusses homosexuality with Sana (Iman Meskini), an observant Muslim classmate who wears a head scarf and doesn’t take flak from anyone.

Hardly any adults are present. “I wanted the kids to solve their problems on their own,” Ms. Andem said.

The show’s strength is its authenticity, said Cecilie Asker, a television critic for the Norwegian daily Aftenposten. “If this were a movie and there were a big movie director doing it, they’d make every moment big,” Ms. Asker said. “But instead, these are small moments, and the realness is in those moments.”

To write “Skam,” Ms. Andem spent half a year traveling around Norway, interviewing teenagers about their lives. “We found one main need,” she said. “Teenagers today are under a lot of pressure from everyone. Pressure to be perfect, pressure to perform. We wanted to do a show to take away the pressure.”

To get strong performances from first-time actors, Ms. Andem auditioned 1,200 people and created the characters after she cast them. As she writes each episode, she uses feedback from the actors and viewers — who write comments on NRK’s website, as well as on Facebook and Tumblr fan pages — to keep the story line believable. They shoot two episodes over three days because most of the actors are still in high school or working other jobs.

NRK has promoted “Skam” only through social media, with the exception of one television interview with two of the actors once the show had already taken off. “The idea was for teenagers to find it themselves, not from their parents,” said Hakon Moslet, the show’s executive producer. Soon their parents were watching, too. By late May, much of Norway was in suspense after Noora (Josefine Frida Pettersen), the main character in Season 2, hadn’t received a response to her text message in days from her boyfriend, William (Thomas Hayes). When the two finally agreed to meet on Friday at 5 p.m., the hashtag #williammustanswer blew up on social media.

The characters all have Instagram accounts and there are Facebook pages for some events (but not for fictional characters, which is against Facebook’s rules). When Isak spends a weekend with Even and forgets a friend’s birthday party, the NRK page had text messages that Isak’s friends sent him, asking where he was.

“‘Skam’ is combining reality and fiction and the line between them isn’t so clear,” said Mari Magnus, 27, the web producer for the show, who writes the text messages and masterminds the Instagram accounts.

This fall, the show has become a cult hit internationally, with double-digit audience growth in the United States, Russia and France, especially among lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender social media circles. The internet is full of fan sites and GIFs of the hot young couple. (Fans have taken to adding subtitles of their own.)

In Norway, the show has even helped propel certain issues into the national conversation. During Season 2, Noora tells a boy it was a criminal offense for him to have posted photos online of her semi-naked and passed out drunk. That caught the attention of the Norwegian police, who posted on Facebook saying, “Way to go, Noora,” and urged other teenagers to report similar violations.

Ms. Andem said that she was surprised to discover in her research how girls use their sexuality today. “When I was 16, we’d use sex to get love,” she said. “They use sex so they can be more popular on Instagram.” She paused. “I don’t know if that’s a good or a bad thing.”

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2016 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, SKAM is a wonderful series that I've been following (even if I am about 25 years older than the target audience -- I could be these kids' dad!). Curious to see what they'll make of it in the US; and if the authenticity and emotional wallop get swallowed in the cultural appropriation.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2016 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

How do you like that, a Norwegian Dawson's Creek...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2016 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Sort of, although considerably more "updated".

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2022 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Heard in a video, 2 Danish men speaking:

Q: "Where can you go on holiday if you have no money, and you don't speak French?"

R: "What about Norway? It's cheap, and they're practically Danish."

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2022 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Is Norway cheap to visit? To hear Thor talk, it's not.

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2022 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

And are Nords "practically-Danish"? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2022 - 1:10 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Is Norway cheap to visit? To hear Thor talk, it's not.

Certainly is not. Norway is not only the most expensive country among the Nordic countries, but in the world at large. So I doubt that phrase would ever be uttered by a Dane, even if their current exchange rate is greater than ours. You might hear a Norwegian talk about Denmark that way, though. At least back when the currency rate was more or less the same.

There is a "circle of commerce" that is very interesting, whereby Germans shop in Poland, Danes shop in Germany, Swedes shop in Denmark and Norwegians shop in Sweden (and Denmark). Nobody comes to Norway to shop cheaply, we're the end station where money comes to die. smile

And are Nords "practically-Danish"?

No more than US Americans are "practically-Mexican"/"practically-Canadian" or the other way around. There are considerable culture differences between the Nordic countries, although we do get along nicely and share some history between us. And occasionally rib each other a bit, like most neighbouring countries. Danes have often called us Norwegians "mountain apes". smile

 
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