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 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Nightingale   (Member)

I'm still troubled that they used phaser effects when Kirk asked for photon torpedoes in "Balance of Terror."

You have it reversed, or are you being ironic?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm still troubled that they used phaser effects when Kirk asked for photon torpedoes in "Balance of Terror."

You have it reversed, or are you being ironic?


The only intended irony was that the OP warned against Trek trivia. wink
I couldnt remember which effect was mixed up and relied on a message board about it. You're right, they launch torpedoes, but script calls them phasers.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 2:30 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Sounds like they should have called the movie "Dad Astra" or "Ed Astra" (if his dad's name is Ed).

My dad had an Astra.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

It's like saying you didn't get 2001 or Blade Runner.


.......I don't get either of these

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Sounds like they should have called the movie "Dad Astra" or "Ed Astra" (if his dad's name is Ed).

My dad had an Astra.


 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

It remains to be seen whether this somnolent wet fart will be able to squeeze out a profit after the overseas proceeds are tabulated, cuz it certainly ain't setting off any concession stand fires stateside.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Ticket sales don't effect my opinion of a movie. There are plenty of popular movies I don't like, and plenty of unpopular ones I do like.
I'm not a Brad Pitt fan and don't go out to cinema anymore, but I was considering this one because of a favorable report on PBS - good special effects and a story that doesnt involve super heroes. Although the "save the universe" cliche is a deterrent. I'm assuming it can't possibly be as boring as 2001....right?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Cmdr. Bond   (Member)

One thing I liked was that for the sound effects sequences in the outer space scenes, the film always cut to interior shots, for accuracy. I've endorsed such an approach for a while and am glad that somebody finally employed it.

As for the movie on the whole? The final act was either going to make or break the whole experience. I found the ending to be an enormous letdown.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Sounds like they should have called the movie "Dad Astra" or "Ed Astra" (if his dad's name is Ed).


Heh, "Dad Astra".
big grin

I haven't seen it yet, but I think I will probably like it.
B-movie ethos aside, I am endlessly fascintated by the archetypal father-son dynamic.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Although the "save the universe" cliche is a deterrent. I'm assuming it can't possibly be as boring as 2001....right?

I don't consider 2001 boring, so I would be the wrong person to answer that particular question.

But!

But, despite quite captivating imagery, would you become disengaged from an unfolding (presumptively) "hard" sci-fi narrative if you had to sit through 2hrs of:

1. a non-sensical plot cobbled together from non-sensical plot turns and devices.
2. innumerable scientific inaccuracies which only exist to further said non-sensical plot.
3. having to listen to a repressed, middle-aged man's monotone self-reflection about how he turned into the father he never really knew and how it contributed to pushing his (of course, still devoted and sexually desirable) wife away from their marriage.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

But!

But, despite quite captivating imagery, would you become disengaged from an unfolding (presumptively) "hard" sci-fi narrative if you had to sit through 2hrs of:

1. a non-sensical plot cobbled together from non-sensical plot turns and devices.
2. innumerable scientific inaccuracies which only exist to further said non-sensical plot.
3. having to listen to a repressed, middle-aged man's monotone self-reflection about how he turned into the father he never really knew and how it contributed to pushing his (of course, still devoted and sexually desirable) wife away from their marriage.


I dunno.....all I feel now is wanting to say "yes, yes, yes, I did it, I'm guilty!" Are you a lawyer, Spinmeister?

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

I dunno.....all I feel now is wanting to say "yes, yes, yes, I did it, I'm guilty!"

See. And that only took eighteen minutes!

Are you a lawyer, Spinmeister?

I should have been. Wanna make an 87 million dollar movie about it?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Maybe the home video release will have an alternate voice-over to make it more interesting, with some plausible explanations for the scientific inaccuracies.

As for your "I shoulda been a lawyer" film project, I dont have any seed money, but I could lend you my wind-up 8mm movie camera. I hear they're coming out with Super 8mm film.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Well, if Soderbergh could find a distributor for his iPhone opus, hey, why not me!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Nightingale   (Member)



I haven't seen it yet, but I think I will probably like it.
B-movie ethos aside, I am endlessly fascintated by the archetypal father-son dynamic.



I was hoping for that as well...didn't get it.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Well at least he doesn't find out at the end that he's an android with false memories...right?

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Hey Spinmeister, we get it...

...you didn’t get it.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

If only they cast and called it "Ed Asner." He could easily play a tough, distant dad.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2019 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Hey Spinmeister, we get it...

...you didn’t get it.




I think my favourite is William Devane @ 7:02.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2019 - 2:00 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I finally managed to catch this last night, before it went off UK cinema screens for good.
I really enjoyed the first hour, despite it's heavy leanings towards GRAVITY (the opening sequence) and APOCALYPSE NOW meets INTERSTELLAR.
But the second hour!!! (SPOILERS!!!)
Well, it all begins to unravel somewhat and by the time of the quite ludicrous final act, all the good will the film has built up is blown apart, just like that nuclear explosion in space that sends Brad Pitt all the way back home (conveniently bypassing Mars and the Moon - AND food for that matter) to the arms of his (estranged?) love interest.
It's the most ridiculous final act I've seen in some time.
I almost wish they had been a bit more ambiguous and at the point when he's floating, lost in space*, and he sees that light, everything AFTER that - that we see - is the dead Brad Pitt reconciling his life/mistakes on his journey 'home'.
Technically, it's VERY good and I loved the sad, string piece by Max Richter, that was threaded throughout the film.
But otherwise, it was a massive missed opportunity for me, despite my enjoying many elements of it.
Maybe with some reflection, the 'deeper' human message will resonate some more with me.
Certainly the To The Stars/Max Richter theme helps that aspect of proceedings enormously.

*what does happen had me thinking, at one point, he was gonna surf through the rocks to Benson Arizona. I also half expected earth to be populated by apes, when he finally touched down.

 
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