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 Posted:   Jul 30, 2021 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Oct my friend, chauvinism is a philosophy not a joke.


I just turned 60, so I might be pretty set in my ways.
But I have become pretty uneasy about holding open a door for a woman.


I personally open the door, then shove everyone out of the way and go thru first.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2021 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

A "Waterworld" sequel TV series gives hope to a potential sequel TV series for "Battlefield Earth".

Made affordable by CGI water. It must be the cheapest, most attainable CGI effect available in the biz.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2021 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   Nightingale   (Member)

I find Waterworld to be very watchable and the money sure is up there on the screen. No digital effects....

(Can't say I am looking forward to a miniseries/series though)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2021 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I find it impossible to sympathize with any actor that is paid $20 million and then complains that their film failed, AND they also want more money. This applies to either man or woman. You know why the film failed? It was not needed and it is not very good. $20 million? You were OVERpaid if anything.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2021 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I find it impossible to sympathize with any actor that is paid $20 million and then complains that their film failed, AND they also want more money. This applies to either man or woman. You know why the film failed? It was not needed and it is not very good. $20 million? You were OVERpaid if anything.

Exactly. Plus her "stunt double" and "CGI double" probably did half the work in the film. And she's complaining about pocketing only 20 million? I have no love for Disney as a corporation but you're in the one percent, get a grip.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2021 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Solium: Exactly. Plus her "stunt double" and "CGI double" probably did half the work in the film. And she's complaining about pocketing only 20 million? I have no love for Disney as a corporation but you're in the one percent, get a grip.

I admire how deeply principled you chauvinists are in this matter of Scarlett Johannson, with your "anti-elitism" and "anti-wokeness".

If this was a right-wing male actor, we wouldn't have heard a peep from you creeps.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2021 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

If this was a right-wing male actor, we wouldn't have heard a peep from you creeps.

That's cuz we "right-wingers" never whine.

Seriously though, uh, go, ScarJo, go!

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2021 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I admire how deeply principled you chauvinists are in this matter of Scarlett Johannson, with your "anti-elitism" and "anti-wokeness".
If this was a right-wing male actor, we wouldn't have heard a peep from you creeps.



Heh, I think rather the reverse would be true.
If it was a man he'd be getting both barrels.
big grin

Also, don't you think the label "chauvinist" should be reserved for whoever designed her catsuit?

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2021 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Solium: Exactly. Plus her "stunt double" and "CGI double" probably did half the work in the film. And she's complaining about pocketing only 20 million? I have no love for Disney as a corporation but you're in the one percent, get a grip.

I admire how deeply principled you chauvinists are in this matter of Scarlett Johannson, with your "anti-elitism" and "anti-wokeness".

If this was a right-wing male actor, we wouldn't have heard a peep from you creeps.


So criticizing an actress for complaining about making ONLY 20 MILLION DOLLARS during a PANDEMIC makes me a chauvinists? I criticize men like JJ Abrams and Zack Snyder all the time, so by your logic I'm a feminist too.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2021 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

It doesn't matter a whit if Scarlett "needs" the money or not...she got screwed out of profits due to her via her contract. If you render services, you should get paid the quoted price.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2021 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It doesn't matter a whit if Scarlett "needs" the money or not...she got screwed out of profits due to her via her contract. If you render services, you should get paid the quoted price.

So shes upset more people didn't go to the theater during a pandemic to make her a little richer.
Not making her anymore sympathetic. Sorry nope.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2021 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

It doesn't matter a whit if Scarlett "needs" the money or not...she got screwed out of profits due to her via her contract. If you render services, you should get paid the quoted price.

I agree. Screwing somebody over is screwing somebody over. I hope she nails them to the wall. I am more and more fondly recalling Harlan Ellison's sentiment regarding getting paid fairly...

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2021 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

When Disney decided to stream the movie, the contract should have been renegotiated--it I'm understanding this correctly.
The question now becomes, when did Disney make that decision?

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2021 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

It seems to have been a pretty shrewd, but dickish move on the part of Disney's lawyers to reveal that Johansson had received $20,000,000 for her involvement in the film. It pretty much eliminates any sympathy that many of us who will never earn anywhere close to $20,000,000 in our lifetimes, and certainly not for a year and change worth of work, may have had for Johannson. On the other hand, if we all found out that our employer moved the goal posts so that we were suddenly receiving much less money than even the most conservative estimates would suggest, and the employer did nothing to mitigate this, we would all be understandably outraged.

It seems surprising that Disney didn't try and get ahead of this, as Warner Brothers dealt with this problem much earlier in the pandemic when they announced Wonder Woman 1984 and their entire 2021 release schedule would be released simultaneously in theaters and HBOMax. I doubt this case will see the inside of a courtroom. I am sure there will be a confidential settlement and both sides will issue press releases saying the case has been resolved amicably. I also won't be surprised if Emma Stone, Emily Blunt, Dwayne Johnson, and any other talent with enough clout to negotiate a percentage of box office receipts getting a nice windfall in exchange for keeping quiet.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2021 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

When Disney decided to stream the movie, the contract should have been renegotiated--it I'm understanding this correctly.
The question now becomes, when did Disney make that decision?


We don't know for a fact she had a contract that stated it had to have a theatrical run (for X amount of time) before making it available for streaming. Even so this has not been a normal year as far as the planet is concerned. Disney had its parks, resorts, cruise lines closed for over a year. Productions were closed down. They've probably lost a ton of money this last year. They're trying to get consumers to join Disney + and recoup lost income. I can understand their reason for doing a theatrical release and streaming release at the same time. People that want to risk it and go to the theaters can see the film on the big screen. Those who rather play it safe and stay home can also view the film via streaming. Win/Win. She could've been the bigger person and said, yeah, I might lose some income but I am filthy rich, far removed from the average persons struggles thru this pandemic. Stay safe and enjoy my movie in the comfort of your home.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2021 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I find Waterworld to be very watchable and the money sure is up there on the screen. No digital effects....

(Can't say I am looking forward to a miniseries/series though)


I think it's a well done action/adventure with a good sense of humor. And yep, you can see the money, at times it sure as hell is spectacular. Terrific sets and stunts. Beats the hell out of a lot of today's CGI fests, and that tremendous JNH score.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2021 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I never cared for Waterworld, but I have to admit I roll out of my chair laughing whenever I see that guy in the tanker burn alive.

"Oh thank god..."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2021 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

When Disney decided to stream the movie, the contract should have been renegotiated--it I'm understanding this correctly.
The question now becomes, when did Disney make that decision?


We don't know for a fact she had a contract that stated it had to have a theatrical run (for X amount of time) before making it available for streaming. Even so this has not been a normal year as far as the planet is concerned. Disney had its parks, resorts, cruise lines closed for over a year. Productions were closed down. They've probably lost a ton of money this last year. They're trying to get consumers to join Disney + and recoup lost income. I can understand their reason for doing a theatrical release and streaming release at the same time. People that want to risk it and go to the theaters can see the film on the big screen. Those who rather play it safe and stay home can also view the film via streaming. Win/Win. She could've been the bigger person and said, yeah, I might lose some income but I am filthy rich, far removed from the average persons struggles thru this pandemic. Stay safe and enjoy my movie in the comfort of your home.


I cannot get this whole ' let's shaft Disney" and "oh, poor lil millionaire actors" thing going on here.
But it seems like you and I are in the minority on this.
There seems to be a full pile on against Disney, and it makes no sense.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2021 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I cannot get this whole ' let's shaft Disney" and "oh, poor lil millionaire actors" thing going on here.
But it seems like you and I are in the minority on this.
There seems to be a full pile on against Disney, and it makes no sense.



Oh, I totally get that there is definitely a greed component to this.
But breach-of-contract is breach-of-contract.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if ScarJo didn't care all that much and this tempest was orchestrated mainly by the lawyers' quest for billable hours.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2021 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I cannot get this whole ' let's shaft Disney" and "oh, poor lil millionaire actors" thing going on here.
But it seems like you and I are in the minority on this.
There seems to be a full pile on against Disney, and it makes no sense.



Oh, I totally get that there is definitely a greed component to this.
But breach-of-contract is breach-of-contract.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if ScarJo didn't care all that much and this tempest was orchestrated mainly by the lawyers' quest for billable hours.


yeah, greed is it. I seriously doubt that there is anything spelled out specifically that promised her that there would be no streaming of the movie for a certain time, that seems extremely extremely unlikely. There would be no reason to write that in a contract anyway. This smells like a PR / lawyer grift to me. But most people have swallowed this hook line and sinker.

 
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