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Feb 8, 2019 - 3:55 PM
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MusicMad
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MusicMad is in- sane. No he isnt. Hes just passionate and doesnt mind giving a strong view. But a lot of his observations are spot on. Insane#! Wow! I didn't know anyone ever read my posts! Thank you, Bill, for the support (much appreciated) and my apologies to you, Joan, as I was aware that you'd said you'd enjoyed this remake. I should point out. Bill, that it was TG who wrote about the significant twist ending ... I had been aware of this but did not mention it in my review. So, Mr. Marshall: it appears you do not rate my sanity in dismissing this remake ... and, I will admit, I recognise my father in myself more as time goes by. I struggle to like modern films but there are exceptions, such as Denzel Washington's action/comedy outings: 2 Guns (2013) - great fun ... or The Equalizer (2014) ... not great but very entertaining. But when a filmmaker takes an iconic film and turns it into a mis-mash of shoot-em-up without any regard to the source from which he's stolen the story then he has no right to anything but scorn. By he I refer to anyone in charge of the production (not solely the director). I assume you won't/don't agree. But just ask yourself: ... if this film had not carried the name under which it had been shown ... would you consider it to be The Magnificent Seven? Back in the 70s I saw many films at the cinema and I recall one which was a madcap comedy (at least, it was advertised as such): Pussycat, Pussycat, I Love You (1970) ... at the time I recall thinking it reminded me of a film I'd seen on TV called What's New, Pussycat. I view this re-imagining of one of my favourite films in the same vein. Mitch
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Open Range - 9/10 I really enjoy this filum. Great score too.
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Mitch Sorry my mistake re ending. If i can remember to praise TG and apologise, i probably wont.
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MusicMad You are basing your opinion on the ' iconic' original. First of all I don't rate the M7 that high. When i was a kid i loved it but it hasn't aged well. THE SEVEN SAMURAI is a masterpiece. The remake pales. It seems folks here are incapable of watching the most recent version objectively. The general public liked it. It was a big hit! Brm Ps. As far as calling you "insane"...it's a play on words.of your avatar MusicMAD Od
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They're burnt into my memory even though they're largely forgettable. George said it all in two. Yup.
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Feb 9, 2019 - 2:56 AM
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MusicMad
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MusicMad You are basing your opinion on the ' iconic' original. First of all I don't rate the M7 that high. When i was a kid i loved it but it hasn't aged well. THE SEVEN SAMURAI is a masterpiece. The remake pales. It seems folks here are incapable of watching the most recent version objectively. The general public liked it. It was a big hit! Brm Ps. As far as calling you "insane"...it's a play on words.of your avatar MusicMAD Od ah, my apologies, Mr. Marshall ... I failed to connect the dots MAD ... insane. I haven't see Seven Samurai (1954) and maybe a viewing would reduce my enjoyment of the 1960 remake ... which I refer to as iconic. I acknowledge that not everyone thinks that film is so great but to me it's as enjoyable now ... no: more so! ... than when I first saw it in the mid-60s (a double bill with its sequel which for years I preferred, struggling to understand my father's opposing view ... but the light dawned ). We watched it again recently with my son-in-law who kindly said he thought it was a good film. I don't automatically dislike remakes but when a film is remade the filmmakers have a major challenge: what's the point of the remake unless it's to improve on, or add something to, the original. By referencing the 1960 film with copied dialogue (as mentioned in my earlier post) they are asking the audience to compare. They could so easily have left such dialogue out, so why include it? There are probably many threads on remakes but I won't bother searching. Some that work for me are: - High Society (1956) ... as much as I like its source (The Philadelphia Story (1940)) the newer film added so much, not just the fabulous musical score ... - Man on Fire (2004) ~ (1987) ... I wasn't so taken with the remake on initial viewing but there was enough to bring me back and I now think it's a great film; the earlier one is a B-movie - Move Over, Darling (1963) ... again, I like its earlier incarnation (My Favourite Wife (1940) but the newer film brings greater enjoyment A few amongst many which are less than worthwhile. I hadn't expected this remake of one of my favourite films to work (the clips I'd seen weren't encouraging) but I hadn't expected it to be so poor. I'd almost bought the DVD/BluRay (something I rarely do these days) and I'm so glad I didn't. I have a number of scores by James Horner ... he's one of my favourites ... but I won't be adding this one. Mitch ...Mad ... about music!
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I confess i didn't realize they quoted lines from the original. Point taken. Brm
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Mitch Sorry my mistake re ending. If i can remember to praise TG and apologise, i probably wont. You’re welcome. As for the motive of the latest M7, it neither added to nor detracted from the story or the plot. It wasn’t a forehead-slapping “oh, so THAT’s why they....” as far as I recall, all it did was let the wind out of its own sails. And I agree with Bruce - The Seven Samurai is the one to watch for the overall experience, even though the Sturges had some very good aspects, not least the music: my favourite American Western score. Please Chris.dont agree with me. Ever since i found out you don't like THE BEATLES... you are dead to me#!
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Nobody is saying the seven samouri isnt a great film and a marvellous bit of filmmaking but that and 1960 mag 7 are chalk n cheese and its difficult to marry the two. In their own right and genre, both great movies.
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Anthropoid 2016, cillian murphy Pointless remake of Operation Daybreakthat is almost identical but slower and less cohesive than the 1975 original. The story is about the assassination of ss reich protector Reinhard Heydrich by czech paratroopers, the repercussions and wiping out of the village of Lidice and 5,000 czech citizens and the hunt to find the paratroopers by the gestapo. The 1975 original with Timothy Bottoms and Anthony Andrews was far superior in every department, not least the music by David Hentschell. Id give operation daybreak 9 out of 10 Anthropoid 6.8 out of 10. If you want to brush up on your history of this remarkable story, watch Operation Daybreak instead.
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You're still dead to me.
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