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 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Finally saw Rosa. I liked it. I loved the Williams influenced music in the beginning of the episode. I thought the actress playing Rosa was outstanding. I didn't have a problem with "the history lesson". I've been told this is a "kids" show and it's an important story to tell in a creative way.

In fact it's totally in line with what the creator of DW wanted, a SciFi show that taught history without aliens or robots. I did have a small issue with the black son becoming all speechless when he met MLK. He really shouldn't be awestruck. It's over 60's years ago and he didn't grow up as a repressed black man in America. They just laid it on a little thick in that one scene.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2018 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Finally saw Rosa. I liked it. I loved the Williams influenced music in the beginning of the episode.

It was Goldsmith-influenced, not Williams!

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2018 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Finally saw Rosa. I liked it. I loved the Williams influenced music in the beginning of the episode.

It was Goldsmith-influenced, not Williams!


I'll take your word for it. big grin

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2018 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I've been seeing bits of each episode and all I hear, music-wise, is the usual droning ambient sound design, with a bit of electric violin/cello (the weapon of choice for the Zimmer Pets) for any emotional bits that happen by.

Here's a hugely positive take on the new music, from Ethan Iverson in New Yorker magazine:

The Music of “Doctor Who” Makes a Glorious Return to Form

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-music-of-doctor-who-makes-a-glorious-return-to-form

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2018 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I've been seeing bits of each episode and all I hear, music-wise, is the usual droning ambient sound design, with a bit of electric violin/cello (the weapon of choice for the Zimmer Pets) for any emotional bits that happen by.

Here's a hugely positive take on the new music, from Ethan Iverson in New Yorker magazine:

The Music of “Doctor Who” Makes a Glorious Return to Form

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-music-of-doctor-who-makes-a-glorious-return-to-form


Interesting. Some glaring flaws in there, but personally I loved Murray Gold's work much of the time. He could supply whatever the showrunners wanted perfectly easily, and that first, Russell T Davies, asked for 'big' like the movies. So that's what he got.

But I am also a big Radiophonic Workshop and Dudley Simpson fan. It IS possible to like it all for differing reasons. So far I do like Akinola's more minimal approach.

Apart from his hideous version of the theme that is. Easily as bad as Gold's last one. While there'll never be a version to beat the original Derbyshire arrangement, that 'very eighties' (Peter Howell) version is a million times better. PLENTY of bite to the baseline.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2018 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Finally saw Rosa. I liked it. I loved the Williams influenced music in the beginning of the episode. I thought the actress playing Rosa was outstanding. I didn't have a problem with "the history lesson". I've been told this is a "kids" show and it's an important story to tell in a creative way.

In fact it's totally in line with what the creator of DW wanted, a SciFi show that taught history without aliens or robots. I did have a small issue with the black son becoming all speechless when he met MLK. He really shouldn't be awestruck. It's over 60's years ago and he didn't grow up as a repressed black man in America. They just laid it on a little thick in that one scene.


Thought Rosa was a home run. Very nicely done, and for the reasons you state. There are a few things I quibbled over, but the actress playing Rosa was outstanding. The actress, Vinette Robinson was in a previous David Tennant Who episode, 42.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-45939324

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2018 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

How about these words from showrunner Chris Chibnall himself?

"doesn't seem to have much to it..... not improved since it went off the air...it could have been a lot better....especially the last story..... very cliched.....silly monsters.... it's boring!"

And the leading lady..."very good actress ... she just has to restrain herself a bit more... she seems very theatrical at the moment"

Except he's not talking about his own series of course, but the show in the mid 1980s on BBC tv's review show Open Air, but what prophetic words lol!! EXACTLY what many are saying about HIS series. Wonder if he'd have a similar session with today's fans?

Mr Chibnall in action:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irIqTPQqgvQ

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2018 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Finally saw Rosa. I liked it. I loved the Williams influenced music in the beginning of the episode. I thought the actress playing Rosa was outstanding. I didn't have a problem with "the history lesson". I've been told this is a "kids" show and it's an important story to tell in a creative way.

In fact it's totally in line with what the creator of DW wanted, a SciFi show that taught history without aliens or robots. I did have a small issue with the black son becoming all speechless when he met MLK. He really shouldn't be awestruck. It's over 60's years ago and he didn't grow up as a repressed black man in America. They just laid it on a little thick in that one scene.


Thought Rosa was a home run. Very nicely done, and for the reasons you state. There are a few things I quibbled over, but the actress playing Rosa was outstanding. The actress, Vinette Robinson was in a previous David Tennant Who episode, 42.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-45939324

Greg Espinoza


Ah, cool trivia, thanks!

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2018 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Saw the spider episode. It was okay. I'm not one to get butt hurt over negative American stereotypes, but I thought the evil, amoral, gun crazy billionaire business man was so over the type to be a caricature. Warming up to Graham and Yasmin. Ryan is deadly dull. None of them really add anything to the series though. The series just doesn't pull me in emotionally like Tennant and Smith did.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2018 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/8-actors-who-turned-down-the-chance-to-play-doctor-who/ar-BBPjpBb?li=AAnZ9Ug&ocid=mailsignout

Just in case folks on t'other side of pond didn't get this on their MSN...

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2018 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

The Tsuranga Conundrum: 3/5. Was OK. A bit bland.

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2018 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/8-actors-who-turned-down-the-chance-to-play-doctor-who/ar-BBPjpBb?li=AAnZ9Ug&ocid=mailsignout

Just in case folks on t'other side of pond didn't get this on their MSN...


Neat, thanks for passing along the info.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

So last night's Who then. The Tsuranga Conundrum.

One of the most well worn ideas in the history of the show. The base/ship under siege. An hour of very little happening to people with very little to do (regulars) and hanging around for the woman playing at being The Doctor to do something. Again we've avoided the baddie. No such things as baddies now. They just do what they do, and the trick is to avoid, evade, ignore or blow away!

Funny little bugger he is too. Amusing actually for the kids who like Crazy Frog. Called the Pting. Eats metal. Trouble is I wondered at times if I was watching Red Dwarf.

Production-wise the sets were impressive. Sadly the space effects were the worst since the 70s. Definitely a step back.

After the Pting, soon we're visiting Kerblam! Can't help thinking the writers have been watching too much Adam West Batman lately....

 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2018 - 6:36 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

So last night's Who then. The Tsuranga Conundrum.

One of the most well worn ideas in the history of the show. The base/ship under siege. An hour of very little happening to people with very little to do (regulars) and hanging around for the woman playing at being The Doctor to do something. Again we've avoided the baddie. No such things as baddies now. They just do what they do, and the trick is to avoid, evade, ignore or blow away!

Funny little bugger he is too. Amusing actually for the kids who like Crazy Frog. Called the Pting. Eats metal. Trouble is I wondered at times if I was watching Red Dwarf.

Production-wise the sets were impressive. Sadly the space effects were the worst since the 70s. Definitely a step back.

After the Pting, soon we're visiting Kerblam! Can't help thinking the writers have been watching too much Adam West Batman lately....


I totally agree. I lost interest halfway through the episode and started surfing the net. In fact that's what I am doing right now! Watching this on my DVR and posting on FSM at the same time.

These companions are boring, the music is dull, the effects look much worse since they switched special effects companies. The pregnant dude, who gives a sh*t?! Stupid old Sci Fi gag to boot.

"Gremlin" on a ship could've been fun and scary, this was neither.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2018 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)



I totally agree. I lost interest halfway through the episode and started surfing the net. In fact that's what I am doing right now! Watching this on my DVR and posting on FSM at the same time.

These companions are boring, the music is dull, the effects look much worse since they switched special effects companies. The pregnant dude, who gives a sh*t?! Stupid old Sci Fi gag to boot.

"Gremlin" on a ship could've been fun and scary, this was neither.


After being a devoted new fan since the Eccleston reboot.....this series has lost me. I just don't care about it any more. I watched the first episode and was not sold. It's nothing about the Doctor being a woman...it's the change in everything that I Ioved about the series previous to this. I think Sol has nailed some of my gripes with his review.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2018 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

In the sixties in particular, the base under siege was a speciality of the second Patrick Troughton's time, with many a classic using this simple format. In those days stories were often six twenty five episodes long on zero budgets but managed to get a lot of atmosphere into them. Here they had fifty minutes with the extra pacing that should mean and failed to get squeeze any excitement or dread out of it!

Anyway last Sunday we had The Demons of the Punjab. All on location which looked great, it boasted yet another spaceship interior that's way superior to the new Tardis one, and some reasonable characterisation, and it's the second time they've got a little educational value in there with an historical adventure (as they used to in the earliest - William Hartnell days) all about the 40s partitioning of India and Pakistan.

But here they spoilt it even more than the Rosa Parks one by having aliens in there. Totally pointless, and looking as poor as all the other aliens this series, as if they're still making the kids' spin-off, Sarah Jane Adventures. And again no threat because they're still not bad guys.

Unfortunately these historicals are coming across as nods to Quantum Leap, which did this sort of thing better with no need for aliens of other sf elements other than the presence of our heroes. Maybe it's because they've been connected to the supporting cast, in a way that the Hartnell historicals weren't.

Either way, it's the first time I've ever fallen asleep during what was once my favourite show.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2018 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Last night's episode was rather silly, I thought. For several reasons.

And of course -- it walks straight into the trap that plagues many time travel stories (including, perhaps most famously, BACK TO THE FUTURE): If you travel back in time and hang out with your parents or grandparents when they were young, especially for a long period of time or at crucial moments in their lives, then how come the parents or grandparents in the present time don't recognize you? I can understand them not recognize you when you were born or a kid, but when you begin to turn into the adult version that visited them in the past, surely some alarm clocks should be going off? Yeah, yeah...suspension of disbelief and all that, but that's been a particular thing that's bugged me in these kinds of stories.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 12:11 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

Last night's episode was rather silly, I thought. For several reasons.

And of course -- it walks straight into the trap that plagues many time travel stories (including, perhaps most famously, BACK TO THE FUTURE): If you travel back in time and hang out with your parents or grandparents when they were young, especially for a long period of time or at crucial moments in their lives, then how come the parents or grandparents in the present time don't recognize you? I can understand them not recognize you when you were born or a kid, but when you begin to turn into the adult version that visited them in the past, surely some alarm clocks should be going off? Yeah, yeah...suspension of disbelief and all that, but that's been a particular thing that's bugged me in these kinds of stories.


Well....I don't know what you were doing when you were 17 or 18 Thor....but when I was that age, there was a large amount of amber fluid consumed and I can guarantee you that I do not remember a single person outside of the friendship group I still have. So - someone that came and hung out with us for a week? Nah. I'm not going to remember them.

Except if that person was instrumental in me getting together with my (future) wife....then I might remember...

Oh...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well....I don't know what you were doing when you were 17 or 18 Thor....but when I was that age, there was a large amount of amber fluid consumed and I can guarantee you that I do not remember a single person outside of the friendship group I still have. So - someone that came and hung out with us for a week? Nah. I'm not going to remember them.

I certainly would -- drunk or not -- if said person was more than a 'glimpse' in my life at that stage. Certainly, Calvin Klein (Marty McFly) had a huge presence in his parents' life at the time, at a pivotal moment. There's no way I would have forgotten that he looked 100% like my own son.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 4:27 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

Well....I don't know what you were doing when you were 17 or 18 Thor....but when I was that age, there was a large amount of amber fluid consumed and I can guarantee you that I do not remember a single person outside of the friendship group I still have. So - someone that came and hung out with us for a week? Nah. I'm not going to remember them.

I certainly would -- drunk or not -- if said person was more than a 'glimpse' in my life at that stage. Certainly, Calvin Klein (Marty McFly) had a huge presence in his parents' life at the time, at a pivotal moment. There's no way I would have forgotten that he looked 100% like my own son.


Which was the point of the last 2 lines of my original post....

 
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