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 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Bergman's best-known actors are Max Von Sydow and Liv Ullmann, and while they are always reliable and worth watching, my personal favorites would be Gunnar Björnstrand and Ingrid Thulin.


My favorite is Gunnel Lindblom.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Bergman's best-known actors are Max Von Sydow and Liv Ullmann, and while they are always reliable and worth watching, my personal favorites would be Gunnar Björnstrand and Ingrid Thulin.


My favorite is Gunnel Lindblom.


She was excellent in The Silence.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

even in the one film I disliked (The Virgin Spring)

Perhaps this was because its script was not by Bergman?

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

even in the one film I disliked (The Virgin Spring)

Perhaps this was because its script was not by Bergman?


Oh, it wasn't? Well, I despised the ending, which was most Un-Bergmanlike, and that twinkly, relatively hopeful ending was probably why it won an Oscar for Best Foreign Language Film.

However, good performances and brilliant cinematography. Otherwise, 3/10. I'd watch it again, though--just not anytime soon.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Wild Strawberries, Winter Light, and The Rite (all get 8/10) are my favorites.

Interesting trio: two widely loved and honored classics and a relatively obscure telefilm that I recall (vaguely) as most unpleasant. Worth another look?

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Wild Strawberries, Winter Light, and The Rite (all get 8/10) are my favorites.

Interesting trio: two widely loved and honored classics and a relatively obscure telefilm that I recall (vaguely) as most unpleasant. Worth another look?


I would add The Passion to that list of recent viewings that I liked best.

As for The Rite, I liked its experimental nature and fine performances from both Thulin and Björnstrand--to say nothing of the awesomely-named Erik Hell. wink I also like the Kafkaesque nature of that particular beast.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2017 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

After having watched a dozen Bergman films in glorious black & white, it was "jarring" to see The Passion of Anna and its vivid reds and red-browns. I suppose it's color films from here on out. Thanks to Filmstruck, I have streaming access to just about every Ingmar Bergman film. Sadly, Face to Face is not among them. It's the film I've been most interested in seeing, but the DVD release of some years ago was both expensive and of apparently crap quality. Hopefully, Criterion will get a crack at it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2017 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

While I still have some more of Bergman's 1940s-1960s films left to watch, the unpleasantness of The Magician has compelled me to vault ahead to his 1970s films. He seemed to have expanded his running times by nearly double, at least in the films to which I have access. Unfortunately, a couple of films that interest me like The Touch (1970) and Face to Face (1976) aren't among them.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2018 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

My ratings for these Ingmar Bergman films. I must re-watch The Magician again, because I almost never give any film that low of a rating.

Through a Glass Darkly (1961) 5/10
The Silence (1963) 6/10

Summer Interlude (1951) 4/10
Smiles of a Summer Night (1955) 5/10
The Magician (1958) 1/10

The Rite (1969) 8/10
Summer with Monika (1953) 8/10
Wild Strawberries (1957) 8/10

Hour of the Wolf (1968) 5/10
Winter Light (1962) 8.5/10
The Virgin Spring (1960) 3/10

Shame (1968) 7/10

The Passion of Anna (1969) 9/10
Persona (1966) 10/10
The Seventh Seal (1957) 7/10

...and the documentary Bergman Island (2004) 6/10

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2018 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

You said rape twice!
wink

Are there two versions of silence?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

While I still have some more of Bergman's 1940s-1960s films left to watch, the unpleasantness of The Magician has compelled me to vault ahead to his 1970s films.

THE MAGICIAN is indeed rather unpleasant. How odd that Von Sydow's performance (and makeup) in that film seem to have inspired his casting as Jesus in GSET! I recall one critic writing that he prophesies the destruction of Jerusalem "with something like relish on his face."

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The Oscars awarded Bergman films the Best Foreign Film Oscar in 1960 and '61, though neither of those films would rank among my favorites. Of course, Persona was not nominated. *Sigh*

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Have the wealthy Bergman aficionados here at FSM purchased their copy of this book from Taschen publishers?

https://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/film/all/44825/facts.the_ingmar_bergman_archives.htm?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImLCoq-703AIVBwxpCh3AywS8EAAYASAAEgLThvD_BwE

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

On November 20, 2018 Criterion will release INGMAR BERGMAN'S CINEMA:

https://www.criterion.com/boxsets/1427-ingmar-bergman-s-cinema

Thirty-nine films, including eighteen never before released by Criterion

Digital restorations of the films, including a new 4K restoration of The Seventh Seal and new 2K restorations of Crisis, Persona, Fanny and Alexander, and many others, with uncompressed monaural and stereo soundtracks

Eleven introductions by director Ingmar Bergman

Six audio commentaries

Over five hours of interviews with Bergman

Interviews with Bergman’s collaborators, including actors Bibi Andersson, Harriet Andersson, Ingrid Bergman, Erland Josephson, Gunnel Lindblom, Liv Ullmann, and Max von Sydow and cinematographer Sven Nykvist

Daniel and Karin’s Face, two rarely seen documentary shorts by Bergman

Documentaries about the making of Autumn Sonata, Fanny and Alexander, The Magic Flute, The Serpent’s Egg, The Touch, and Winter Light

Extensive programs about Bergman’s life and work, including Bergman Island, . . . But Film Is My Mistress, Laterna Magica, Liv & Ingmar, and others

Behind-the-scenes footage, video essays, trailers, stills galleries, and more

PLUS: A lavishly illustrated 248-page book, featuring essays on the films by critics, scholars, and authors including Cowie, Alexander Chee, Molly Haskell, Karan Mahajan, Fernanda Solórzano, and many others, along with selections from remarks and texts by Bergman himself

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Wow, what a set!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

That's the gal that Jerry Goldsmith said he would marry. Thankfully, she turned him down for being 15 years old, and he went on to become the famous film composer behind THE OMEN and STAR TREK, after working for thirty years in a filing cabinet.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2018 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

That's the gal that Jerry Goldsmith said he would marry. Thankfully, she turned him down for being 15 years old, and he went on to become the famous film composer behind THE OMEN and STAR TREK, after working for thirty years in a filing cabinet.

I'm sorry, but I'm just a simple-minded American from the suburbs...what the Hell are you saying?!?

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2018 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Wow, what a set!

You said it! I'm going to demand it for this year's FSMer Gift Exchange!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2018 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

That's the gal that Jerry Goldsmith said he would marry. Thankfully, she turned him down for being 15 years old, and he went on to become the famous film composer behind THE OMEN and STAR TREK, after working for thirty years in a filing cabinet.

I'm sorry, but I'm just a simple-minded American from the suburbs...what the Hell are you saying?!?


Initially, I wondered the same thing.

And since Graham hasn't yet come forth with explanations, I hazard guesses and suspect Mr. Watt is referring to actress Ingrid Bergman to jest about those people might confuse Ingmar with Ingrid simply because their names are similar (you know how some FSMers intentionally confuse Laurence Rosenthal with Leonard Rosenman, despite their harmonic worlds of differences, to mock them merely because their surnames commence with 'Rosen' and first names' initial begins with 'L').

So here we have a massive Criterion set on films with actress Ingrid Bergman (so we can avoid chatting about films by Ingmar Bergman) who was the actress that Jerry Goldsmith jokingly wished to marry so he would not need a career and live off Ingrid's wealth.

This is the FSM message board, after all, and we need to shoehorn Goldsmith into every thread topic! smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2018 - 5:05 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Is that what it was?

Not interested.

In the slightest. big grin

 
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