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 Posted:   Jan 5, 2015 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

Movies tend to hug the extremes.

1) fainting : humans are so fragile that minor surprises cause them to collapse in a heap

... as opposed to ...

2) titanium jaws : punches that would shatter normal bone are shrugged off as minor annoyances. ')

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2015 - 11:42 PM   
 By:   chromaparadise   (Member)

CGI is used in either hand-to-hand fighting or car chases...Hire someone to do it or forget its ridiculous implausibility--No suspension of disbelief.

Characters sigh under extreme distress and quip, "I'm getting too old for this shit."

A necessary trip to the graveyard always has to take place in the dead of night.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2015 - 12:38 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

THE KILLER HAS HIS VICTIM ON THE GROUND, CHOKING THE LIFE OUT OF HER.....


there is ALWAYS a knife, scissors, vase, paperweight ETC. close by for the victim to reach(barely)
and bash the killer in the head so she can escape

d'oh!



Add to that the situation where people get rubber limbs and sticky or magnetic finger tips. Somehow they stretch and stretch and what was out of reach or would be pushed away by those extending fingers now not only comes within reach but moves towards the hand palm too. This goes for all people who are in a tight spot, whether they are choked, locked in at their legs, or the object (rings, keys, detonators, vials with antidote etc.) lies juuuuuuuuuuuuust oooouuuut oooooooooof reaaaaach.
Add to that that all objects have a sticky surface that keeps them for ever teetering on the edge of the chasm but never going over it despite violent shakes, explosions or violent wind rushes.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2015 - 12:39 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

CGI is used in either hand-to-hand fighting or car chases...Hire someone to do it or forget its ridiculous implausibility--No suspension of disbelief.

CGI is used for everything except when they can save classic cars, then the pissheads have to go for "that authentic look that computers just can't give". Kill that scum and their families too.

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2015 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

At the very beginning of every fight the villain kicks or slaps the hero's gun (or phaser!) away and it's hand to hand combat from that point forward. Someone else shows up and shoots the bad guy for him.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2015 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

At the very beginning of every fight the villain kicks or slaps the hero's gun (or phaser!) away and it's hand to hand combat from that point forward. Someone else shows up and shoots the bad guy for him.

Yep.

I am really sick of the gunfight which ends with the villain trapped and defeated.........
until he spots a passerby (usually a woman) whom he grabs and uses as a shield.
"Drop your weapons or she dies". And, of course a squad of cops obey him and drop their weapons.

Lame
brm

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2015 - 7:31 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

I'm tired of the good guy getting shot ... and the bullet(s) end up about 1/2 inch below the surface of the skin where they can be easily dug out, bandaged, and healed in 2 days. I'm no forensics expert. but I'm pretty sure that most any bullet causes horrific internal damage and are not stopped by mere epidermis.

One of my favorite movies of all time starts out with 2 bullets dug out of the heroes back, and of course he proceeds to kick serious ass within days. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2015 - 12:09 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

I'm tired of the good guy getting shot ... and the bullet(s) end up about 1/2 inch below the surface of the skin where they can be easily dug out, bandaged, and healed in 2 days. I'm no forensics expert. but I'm pretty sure that most any bullet causes horrific internal damage and are not stopped by mere epidermis.

One of my favorite movies of all time starts out with 2 bullets dug out of the heroes back, and of course he proceeds to kick serious ass within days. smile


That is one of the times where a Steven Segal film is more realistic than most prestigious productions. I "Hard to kill" you see the time it takes him to get back to his usual bone breaking level. On the other hand, he gets out of a long coma and is already able to respond much too well for someone in that condition but hey, you can't details like a coma get in the way of plot.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2015 - 12:12 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)



I am really sick of the gunfight which ends with the villain trapped and defeated.........
until he spots a passerby (usually a woman) whom he grabs and uses as a shield.
"Drop your weapons or she dies". And, of course a squad of cops obey him and drop their weapons.

Lame
brm


Or the gutsy no nonsense all out cop makes his mavericky move and shoots the hostage taker in the forehead.

"Robocop II" gave a good spin on this by letting Murphy use a ricochet shot to take out a hostage taker. We even get to see how he plans the shot.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2015 - 12:16 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Putting a finger on the lips of someone who either:
1) pleads for their life (maniac - victim situation)
2) wants to appologise, say how much, usually; he loves, usually, her; is amazed the "fingerer" is still alive.

Most times followed by a "shhh".

I HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.

I makes me want to break that finger and punch them in the face so hard, that the shockwave passes the sound barrier.

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2015 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

They don't hire attractive actresses! I see better looking girls in commercials- and my local Walmart.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2015 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

When the main character is white the best friend is black. When the main character is black the best friend is white. You see this a lot more on television. I'm not against diversity it's just a cliched pair up nowadays.

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2015 - 9:46 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

...a mortally-wounded character will use their finger to scrawl an obtuse clue (usually using their own blood) for the leading character to follow-up on later. Saw this in The Adventures Of Tintin this afternoon, and I've seen it in countless other movies and TV shows (like recently in Agent Carter).

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The slow-mo winning catch, home run, basket hoop, or touchdown in sport films! Is this technique ever not used?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2015 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

These pretentious cliches have to go.

1) In futuristic or stories with super-hyper advanced secret organistions, people wearing ear pieces always have to hold one, preferably two fingers, preferably extremely straight (even rigor mortis is more bent) to said ear piece.
If you have such advanced equipment, you don't need to push it all the way into your ear for you to hear what's coming out of the piece.

2) Flash lights nowadays all have to held up when in the majority of the cases it is the most inefficient method, but hey, we saw it in the films.

And that rubbish made in the USA now finds it way into films from all over the world.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2015 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

....parallell editing actually turns out to be cross-cutting.

Saw this in TAKEN 3 most recently, just an hour ago.

You know, they cut between two lines of action as the pursuers approach a location where the protagonist still is, but when they actually arrive, he or she is gone. So the cuts of the protagonist actually took place in the PAST, not simultaneously.

A similar 'trope' is when they parallell edit between two lines of action that eventually turn out to be in two different locations, the SILENCE OF THE LAMBS sequence being perhaps the most famous (and best) of the bunch!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2015 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I think this is one of the best threads on the site. You've got a book here Thor, or at least an article.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2015 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

In a movie gunfight, everybody, good guys and bad guys, act like they're made out of solid titanium and show NO FEAR even as the bullets tear the environment apart around them. Such boring crap and not actually suspensful. During the real thing, EVERYBODY, even the most experienced, is jerking around and ducking haphazardly in a state of extreme nervous anxiety as the bullets fly. Understandable too because they know they are probably microseconds from oblivion.

I guess Hollywood thinks such a realistic depiction would make the hero look cowardly. Yet their way makes him look like an idiot. Even John Wayne, millions of years ago, simply leaned out of the way of bullets... and somewhat leisurely too. Idiot! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2015 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I guess Hollywood thinks such a realistic depiction would make the hero look cowardly. Yet their way makes him look like an idiot. Even John Wayne, millions of years ago, simply leaned out of the way of bullets... and somewhat leisurely too. Idiot! big grin

What! Rude about The Duke. How dare you!

Sharpshooters have been taking pot-shots at heroes...& missing, since the silent days. It's odd, but the hero gets himself into all kinds of scrapes, but you know he's going to be alright, so it shouldn't really work as drama, but it does. James Bond is a good example.

I don't really want a realistic depiction of death in movies, death's bad enough in real life. And in real life, no one is as tough as film stars. Take Die Hard 4, Bruce takes enough punishment to kill a dozen people, & then, & then! Shoots himself, so the bullet goes through his body & kills the baddie behind him, & he's still on his feet at the end joking with the medics.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2015 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

In a movie gunfight, everybody, good guys and bad guys, act like they're made out of solid titanium and show NO FEAR even as the bullets tear the environment apart around them. Such boring crap and not actually suspensful. During the real thing, EVERYBODY, even the most experienced, is jerking around and ducking haphazardly in a state of extreme nervous anxiety as the bullets fly. Understandable too because they know they are probably microseconds from oblivion.


On the other hand . . . there's no way to duck a bullet. It's moving too fast. When there are bullets flying everywhere, it's just as safe to stroll confidently as it is to duck and jerk around -- there's no greater likelihood that a bullet will hit you while you're cowering than while you're not cowering, and obstacles like cars and walls and doors aren't going to stop the bullets. So why not just go about your business? big grin

 
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