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I still haven't watched the last five episodes from Season 12.
You're not missing much.
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Being a fan I can never not watch the next episode. But it is all very depressing.
I took onboard everything the New Series threw at us, and to some extent knew what they were doing. And why.
But the latest stuff really is just carrying on without real regard to the original idea or the fans. The latter may make no difference to the people making it, but one day they might wonder everyone's gone.
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If they went with this lass instead of Jodie it would've been a rating hit.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f7/20/50/f7205093f0e23c983f994db576672d55.jpg
Sadly, I think these days the last thing they want as part of Doctor Who's audience is male interest for a glamorous female lead or support. Every other possibility yes, but not that. It's a long time since the days of Leela and 'something for the dads'.
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Just papers trying to make out there's something going when there's nothing. The three series thing has become standard give or take a Special or two. No mystery there. The pandemic is definitely the reason why there's only eight episodes in the next series, something previous teams didn't have to worry about.
Btw, it was Patrick Troughton's advice to Peter Davison back in the early eighties to restrict it to three years, and guess who Davison's son-in-law is. And since Tennant, nobody's done more than this in the revived show.
Meanwhile, some mild amusement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZADkls2ntc
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And since Tennant, nobody's done more than this in the revived show.
I often wonder if Tennant, Smith and Capaldi might have done fourth seasons if they hadn't been hit by 'gap' years (2009 - specials only, 2013 - previous year's season of 13 split into two blocks over two years, 2016 - nothing)
I think DW was their vehicle to fame. They thought they could cut the ties after several seasons and become a star in Hollywood. Hasn't really happened for any of them. Only Karen Gillan (who wasn't even the Doctor) been successful across the pond.
Too true. In Karen Gillan's case.
But don't underestimate British actors' love of theatre. That is without the current international situation of course.
They really do like it, and both Eccleston and Tennant have done a fair amount including, or even especially, Shakespeare. Saw the former myself in yer actual Stratford-upon-Avon (Macbeth).
Tennant did a pilot for a US tv show which didn't work out, and Eccles reckons he only did Heroes and Thor (which he said he hated) because he felt the BBC had damaged his reputation in the UK following his leaving the series (the only one who hasn't done the three years thing).
And Capaldi is already an Oscar winner. Look it up.
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Jan 12, 2021 - 10:49 AM
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I would disagree that Gillan is the only one successful across the pond.
Tennant had a very successful show in Marvel's Jessica Jones, and also Amazon's Good Omens. His two other US TV series - Camping and Gracepoint - were not successful, it's true, but he's in the main cast for the How To Train Your Dragon trilogy and Disney's DuckTales reboot. he gets plenty of voice work over there. But in movies, it hasn't worked out for him (Fright Night).
Freema Agyeman has been a mainstay on US TV for a decade now. Initially doing The Carrie Diaries, she went on to be a regular in the far more successful Sense8 and is now in her third season of New Amsterdam (which has been commissioned up to its fifth season).
Matt Smith keeps getting cast in movies though he hasn't had a big hit yet. He's got a lead role in Edgar Wright's Last Night In Soho with Anya Taylor-Joy soon, and is in Marvel's Morbius film later this year.
Arthur Darvill was a regular in DC's Legends of Tomorrow.
Capaldi is in The Suicide Squad, not to mention Paddington and World War Z.
So yeah, Gillan is the only 'bankable' movie star, but there are others who are either regulars on US TV or have movie careers.
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Yes. Knew about the jessica Jones thing 'cause I watched it regularly along with the other Marvel/Netflix shows (except Punisher. Too violent for the Mrs). Matt is defo a name, thinking of his upcoming Morbius thing and The Crown. Same with Arthur Darvill. Know Capaldi is still in work, but I didn't realise how well Freema had done. Great stuff. And almost forgot Billie Piper. Another one still going strong.
One thing is clear. Whatever some of us might think about the current state of Doctor Who, it's presence is better now than it ever was with the Classic Series. If it's one good thing for those in it and with it these days (the directors are also on the US tv scene and Netflix etc). There is a definite step up that comes with being involved. Back in the day it was almost the kiss of death, you know the days of type casting etc.
Not now. And I'm even happy if the same thing applies to Jodie Whittaker. Good on her if she does well out of it..
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