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 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   michaelbean510   (Member)

I haven't used my phone for much more than the basics in ages. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I find the novelty (?) of having the whole internet in my pocket has worn off. Sure I still send texts, make calls, Facetime, and glance at the news, but not at all as frequently as I used to. And with the prices of smartphones skyrocketing, I'm thinking of going back to a regular old cell phone when my fancy iPhone goes flaky.

My daughter on the other hand, I have to pry her away from her screens...
9 times out of 10, as soon as we start watching, he'll pull out his phone and dive into it.
We put a password on her iPad just so she will pay attention and we could watch movies as a family.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2021 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I use my cell phone a lot and for lots of things (like typing this here right now), though I don't understand what's supposed to be addictive about it? It's a piece of technology that has replaced a lot of other technologies and added some new ones, so of course I use it as much as I've used newspapers, keys, credit cards, phones, pagers, cameras, dictating machines, discmans, flashlights, tickets (concerts, planes, etc), pocket change, calendar, and, and, and thrown together in the past, but at the same time, my use for these other things has diminished or vanished completely. I like the "all in one device" idea. I have a hard time imagining someone to be literally addicted to cell phone use.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2021 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The problem is that everyday life requires it to a certain extent. So what happens is that it has normalized what is addictive behavior. If you weren't using a cell phone people in society would look at you like what? But actual drugs people give you a bad look. Society would need to change.

This is so true! I need a smart phone for work. Both for checking my pay and benefits. I get text alerts from work even when I am off. (which sucks!) Could be about call outs asking if you want to fill in. Or announcements regarding Covid testing/results. Or alerts about immediate procedure changes or important information about residence. (risk factors, change in diet or medication) etc.

It also means getting bitchy text messages from my employer about work place habits even when I am off. (Like, "Never leave memory care hall unattended!!!!!!) Which is a real drag. Never feel like I'm off from work. Not totally disconnected when it should be MY time. In some countries its against the law for your employer to contact you while you are off work.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2021 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Actually, I am very happy to report that i've never had a cellphone, and hopefully never will.

In case you're wondering, I am 32 years old and work as a music and history teacher.

And yes, I also don't have a car nor a driver's license because I ride my bicycle to work.

Life is beautiful when it is kept simple.

Alex

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2021 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   msmith   (Member)

Actually, I am very happy to report that i've never had a cellphone, and hopefully never will.

In case you're wondering, I am 32 years old and work as a music and history teacher.

And yes, I also don't have a car nor a driver's license because I ride my bicycle to work.

Life is beautiful when it is kept simple.

Alex


I feel the same.
They are also tracking devices that can be used to infringe on individual privacy.
What's so sad are there are cell phone addicts out there who don't care they are addicts.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2021 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


Life is beautiful when it is kept simple.



I agree. That's why I love my smartphone. Keeps my life simple. smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Someone told me that he thinks it's good that his smarty-phone tracks him.

And he thinks "it's all going that way eventually," that'll we'll all get a chip installed at birth.



People accept this.... why?

Addiction to convenience. Even if it's a useless convenience.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2021 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I use my cell phone a lot and for lots of things (like typing this here right now), though I don't understand what's supposed to be addictive about it? It's a piece of technology that has replaced a lot of other technologies and added some new ones, so of course I use it as much as I've used newspapers, keys, credit cards, phones, pagers, cameras, dictating machines, discmans, flashlights, tickets (concerts, planes, etc), pocket change, calendar, and, and, and thrown together in the past, but at the same time, my use for these other things has diminished or vanished completely. I like the "all in one device" idea. I have a hard time imagining someone to be literally addicted to cell phone use.


I tend to agree with Nic on this. Did people also shy away from Swiss Army knives yet were happy to carry around a penknife, set of screwdrivers, Allen keys, corkscrew, tweezers et cetera? It’s a very useful tool, the mobile phone, which has made many things infinitely easier and/or more convenient.

AT THE SAME TIME, I wouldn’t criticise anyone for avoiding them because on the negative side, you can lose all your money gambling, you can enable child and other sexual abuse, and you can have your identity stolen, if you’re reckless or unfortunate enough to be sucked in to any of that.

It’s a matter of personal choice.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2021 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Someone told me that he thinks it's good that his smarty-phone tracks him.

And he thinks "it's all going that way eventually," that'll we'll all get a chip installed at birth.



People accept this.... why?

Addiction to convenience. Even if it's a useless convenience.


When in Rome...

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2021 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   msmith   (Member)



I tend to agree with Nic on this. Did people also shy away from Swiss Army knives yet were happy to carry around a penknife, set of screwdrivers, Allen keys, corkscrew, tweezers et cetera? It’s a very useful tool, the mobile phone, which has made many things infinitely easier and/or more convenient.

AT THE SAME TIME, I wouldn’t criticise anyone for avoiding them because on the negative side, you can lose all your money gambling, you can enable child and other sexual abuse, and you can have your identity stolen, if you’re reckless or unfortunate enough to be sucked in to any of that.

It’s a matter of personal choice.


I never heard of anyone being addicted to things like Swiss Army knives, etc.

Besides, anyone who has ever dealt with an alcoholic knows they, like cell phone addicts, all have one thing in common, excuses. An alcoholic is a master at justifying why they drink and why they do not have a problem. This makes them very hard to confront and can hamper any attempts to offer them help.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2021 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)


I never heard of anyone being addicted to things like Swiss Army knives, etc.



Succinctly stated!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2021 - 12:11 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


I never heard of anyone being addicted to things like Swiss Army knives, etc.


Just because you never heard of it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Try googling “Swiss army knife addiction”.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2021 - 1:28 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

I use my cell phone a lot and for lots of things (like typing this here right now), though I don't understand what's supposed to be addictive about it? It's a piece of technology that has replaced a lot of other technologies and added some new ones, so of course I use it as much as I've used newspapers, keys, credit cards, phones, pagers, cameras, dictating machines, discmans, flashlights, tickets (concerts, planes, etc), pocket change, calendar, and, and, and thrown together in the past, but at the same time, my use for these other things has diminished or vanished completely. I like the "all in one device" idea. I have a hard time imagining someone to be literally addicted to cell phone use.

OMG.
I’m an art teacher and kids just stare at there phones. They are constantly updating their story on, which one is it? Snapchat? TikTok? And sharing it with others always trying to impress someone. When they aren’t doing that they are staring at their face. They are unable to spend 10 minutes with themselves and concentrate. They need constant visual stimulus. They want to do the minimal amount of work, Google ideas and steal them so they can get back to there phones. I no longer know if what they are creating is new or they stole the idea from someone else. You can check for originality with words but there is no program for images. Very depressing.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2021 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


I never heard of anyone being addicted to things like Swiss Army knives, etc.


Just because you never heard of it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Try googling “Swiss army knife addiction”.


An addiction is only an addiction if you have a problem with it. I view a smartphone actually as a problem solver. It's just an enormously practical device. Do people become "addicted" to enormously practical devices? I guess that depends on how you define "addictions". People might as well be addicted to dishwashing machines or microwave ovens or cars. These are just all practical devices. If you use your smartphone for lots of things such as reading (newspaper, magazines, books), paying, as a garage door opener, music listening device, hifi and TV remote control, camera (video and photo), scheduling, calendar, to surf the Internet, to visit FSM, and, and and... you use it obviously a lot. But years ago, you might have done all these things just as much, except you just needed lots of different devices for it. So in comparison, you'd have to compare it to the time people spend on all these other things with different devices.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2021 - 3:27 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

Kids read? LOL! Before phones I would see students with books. I use to have a scrap paper box for students that were done with their art assignment. They would like to draw or paint something. I just recycle the paper now. If you came of age before cell phones you are aware of its “addiction”. Most students now grew up with one and are unaware of their addiction to the device, how it affects them emotionally and captures their attention. Students have become more vulgar. It use to be they were only as poorly behaved as their crazy family uncle or worst friend. Now social apps “teach” them. If they have a nurturing parent at home (mother) then they know the behavior is wrong but want to socially fit in. If not, we have this rise in senseless school violence. Just hope your surgeon wasn’t up all night gaming because he has performed your surgery a hundred times before and it should be a breeze.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2021 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

A Swiss army knife doesn't get in the way of work or your social life. Ive seen so many people with their noses in the smartphone instead of doing their job, not paying attention when they are on the road (not moving when the light turns green!!!) and not socializing with people right in front of them.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2021 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

A Swiss army knife doesn't get in the way of work or your social life. Ive seen so many people with their noses in the smartphone instead of doing their job, not paying attention when they are on the road (not moving when the light turns green!!!) and not socializing with people right in front of them.


The Swiss army knife example is an analogy illustrating Nic’s point, not a literal comparison, I’m not sure what was unclear about that! All those things you mention are true, and I see it all the time, but that’s the responsibility of the individual misusing an item. If kids are allowed to immerse themselves in a smart phone and later can’t tear themselves away from it, I’d say there’s a good chance that parents have used it as a babysitter and have largely brought it upon themselves if they then never see the kids.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2021 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

At work, people arrive in the lunch room, sit down, pull out cellphones and thumb up a storm. They only happen to co-exist in the same time/space.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 2:09 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

It's the FUTURE!!!
Forget Garlic Bread!

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

People used to pull out newspapers or books, now its smartphones (which can double as books or newspapers or photo editing or whatever). Whenever I (used to... before Corona) sit at an airport and my flight is delayed, yes, I pull out my smartphone, read up on things, check mails, etc... or when I'm on train, I usually put on my headphones, listen to some music, perhaps read up on some of those blogarticles I bookmarked for "read later". The smartphone can turn even waiting for something into productive time, as I usually always have it with me. I guess it just depends on what you do with it. I personally view it as a "makes my life a lot easier" device, which actually gives me some extra (free) time, as I can, for example, easily answer business e-mails while grocery shopping. Bang, that's efficiency. I definitely like that. And I work with LOTs of younger people (say in their 20s), many (though not all) just fresh from the University or still studying, and the young people I know are engaged, have lots of a social life, lots of interests, and all of them have smartphones and seem to be able to handle this device appropriately without being unduly "addicted" to them.

 
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