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The Lee/Ditko era existed in the time when characters were made property by the comic
Ya don’t got us here, effendi – as Howard would say:
Hah?????
so Lee stepping forward as the sole creator was as much a business decision as anything else
HAH!!!???!!! – The Sequel.
If you’re referring to the obligatory Work for Hire bit, that was (and remains) industry-corporate,
which Smiley had nothing to do with whatsoever.
Mind you, the most (in)famous example is Lee’s well-known tale how astonished he was when he got The King’s penciled pages back and saw this guy surfing through the cosmos. To paraphrase, when asked for an explanation, Mr. Kirby’s sensationally solid rationalization was that an entity like Galactus would have to employ a sentry to scout ahead for him.
This led to Mr. Lee(ber)'s habitual brilliantly-belated admission about The Surfer’s creation, which he was all too happy to partake in but had absolutely zip to do with.
Yeah, Marvel owns the character and Mr. Lee certainly contributed significantly to its popular/commercial and historical legacy - but who’s the actual Creator?
Granted, it’s not as arguably cut and dried as in Spidey's case (tho ye Writer-Editor also has admitted he was definitely influenced by “The Spider” pulp-hero).
So we got no absolute answers, tho Deepening the Questions is infinitely more intriquing.
Your move.
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Jul 24, 2010 - 7:10 AM
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With Comic Con going on, I'm sure this thread will be slammed with posts! This will be *THE* topic!!! Fans'll be pumped up to talk about Jack Kirby and John Romita and Steve Ditko and maybe even Herb Trimpe!
I can't wait! 
Herb Trimpe sure is an acquired taste...
His blocky, square jawed and , well, squared everything style, left me cold for the longest time. Then one day browsing some old issues it finally clicked with me and I appreciated his odd poses and well crafted pencils.
Kirby will always be Kirby and damn fabulous. I'm currently rereading the Fourth World Omnibus volumes, and recently traded out to pick up both The Demon and OMAC hardcovers. The Demon is great stuff and still holds up well...OMAC - not so much.
With OMAC, although some of the mad Kirby genius is still there, it felt, more than in any other series, that he was just going for a page count. The stories seem to all have solid ideas, but the execution was lackluster, normally just being a lead in to fight scenes. It is nice to have these collected, but, one can see why it didn't make it to 10 issues.
I'm waiting patiently for Marvel to collect his 2001 series ( I remember getting these off the rack at Innes Street Drug soooo many years back) and for DC to collect Kamandi in Omnibus style editions... anything other than the thin, overpriced Archive hardbacks. Kirby only stayed with Kamandi for 40 some issues, his entire run really needs a better collection
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Jul 24, 2010 - 7:16 AM
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Jim Phelps
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With Comic Con going on, I'm sure this thread will be slammed with posts! This will be *THE* topic!!! Fans'll be pumped up to talk about Jack Kirby and John Romita and Steve Ditko and maybe even Herb Trimpe!
I can't wait!
Herb Trimpe sure is an acquired taste...
His blocky, square jawed and , well, squared everything style, left me cold for the longest time. Then one day browsing some old issues it finally clicked with me and I appreciated his odd poses and well crafted pencils.
Hence my use of "maybe even Herb Trimpe"! However, your description of Trimpe's work could well be applied to Kirby. I always admired his big, bold concepts, especially in the FF, but I grew up during the era of Byrne and Perez, so it took me some time to enjoy the vastly different art of guys like Kirby and Trimpe.
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