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Nov 26, 2018 - 9:22 AM
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Leorx
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I am particularly interested in what concert hall composers think of Goldsmith and his scores.
These are the things I recall/can find:
At the time of Goldsmith's death, Philip Glass said this:
"The catalog of work he did was enormous—and it’s not just film but television as well. And of course they’re very well-known pieces. I just wondered when he had time to do it all; this was in the days when composers did things by themselves, this was not in the days of assembly-line film scores. The man was a very busy guy! “I was thinking about him and Elmer: Not only did they define at a certain period the language of film music, which for sure they did, but also I think the stature of the composer was raised by their work. They brought an artistic quality to the work, to the point that they became real artists working in the field of film. “The role of the composer became more respected and more honored through the work of these people. These were not Tin Pan Alley guys who were poking out tunes with one finger; men like these were handling the materials of music and orchestration in a very sophisticated way. Jerry was a man who brought a lot of craft to the work, and he brought a level of curiosity [to every project]. If you write film scores today, you have to be as serious about that as you are about a symphony—it will be judged by a very high standard."
When asked which film composers he admired, Jerry Goldsmith was the first name that John Corigliano mentioned (followed by Williams, Rosenman, Morricone and Rozsa).
"Brilliant work, I admired his freshness and versatility" - John Williams
In the 90s, Williams cited Goldsmith's Basic Instinct (and Newman's The Shawshank Redemption) as recent examples of "great film scoring".
"I don't know anyone, regardless of genre, with Goldsmith's stylistic versatility" - Esa-Pekka Salonen
"Goldsmith is personal, inventive and evocative" - Ned Rorem
"I admire Jerry Goldsmith, some of the compositions he comes up with amaze me" - Elliot Goldenthal
"Patton is one of my favourite scores, I think he is one of the best composers in Hollywood" - Leonard Rosenman
"Goldsmith is the number one composer working right now, he is open to new ideas and always inventing" - Elmer Bernstein
"Goldsmith is first-rate" - David Raksin
"I thought Chinatown was exquisite, I like a lot of Goldsmith's stuff" - Thomas Newman
In one part of his concert work City Noir, John Adams said that he meant to evoke the score to Chinatown citing the "great trumpet writing".
At an event, Williams selected Chinatown as one of the scores to play, citing how "atmospheric" the opening was.
"I think this is the pinnacle" - Davd Fincher on the Chinatown score
Steven Soderbergh was amazed that Goldsmith wrote Chinatown in just 10 days.
David Lynch mentioned that Chinatown was his favourite film score of all time.
Can anyone find more quotes?
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Goldsmith was so respected that it's not difficult to find quotes from other composers. Irwin Bazelon's book Knowing the Score has interviews with several composers, most of which acknowledge Goldsmith. Off the top of my head: Alex North, Laurence Rosenthal, Elmer Bernstein, etc. From other sources Lalo Schifrin said that Patton was a favorite score. Morricone cited Papillon. Richard Rodney Bennett told me in an interview from the mid-seventies that Goldsmith was "a real composer." And on and on and on.
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" The greatest composer to ever come out of Hollywood"
-Bruce R. Marshall : FILM SCORE MONTHLY
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That's the reason I hated Rosenman.... arrogant son of a bitch.
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" The greatest composer to ever come out of Hollywood"
-Bruce R. Marshall : FILM SCORE MONTHLY
You said that?!
I did. You can look it up.
Brm
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That's the reason I hated Rosenman.... arrogant son of a bitch.
I hate him cuz his music sucks!
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Are there any legends that have spoken badly about him? Gary Kester once claimed that Rosenman called him a "second rate synth pop artist" sellout for turning to synths in the 80's. I haven't seen any other sources for this, but Rosenman, like Herrmann, was a bit of a shit-talker, so it wouldn't shock me.
I'd be very interested to get more information about that, as it does not sound quite right. I mean, Goldsmith has spoken highly of Rosenman (and composers are only human), and it would be odd for Rosenman to just call Goldsmith a "second rate synth pop artist" and leave it like that. Rosenman was both quite erudite and articulate, and I doubt he would just put Goldsmith into the "second rate" category.
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" The greatest composer to ever come out of Hollywood"
-Bruce R. Marshall : FILM SCORE MONTHLY
You said that?!
I did. You can look it up.
Brm
I’m sorry - I typed “what”, but it came out as “that”.
Say what?
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Nov 27, 2018 - 4:37 PM
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William R.
(Member)
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I'd be very interested to get more information about that, as it does not sound quite right. I mean, Goldsmith has spoken highly of Rosenman (and composers are only human), and it would be odd for Rosenman to just call Goldsmith a "second rate synth pop artist" and leave it like that. Rosenman was both quite erudite and articulate, and I doubt he would just put Goldsmith into the "second rate" category.
I remember reading it in an issue of the Goldsmith Society magazine back in the mid-90s. The quote doesn't appear to be on the record anywhere, though. Considering how laudatory Rosenman was of Goldsmith when he was on the record, my guess is that it was either mis-attributed or taken out-of-context. Still, I'll never forget that infamous Starlog feature where he trashed the work of Poledouris (and also that of several directors with whom he'd been friends for years). Rosenman was a brilliant composer, but when discussing the work of his colleagues, he was the anti-John Williams.
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Goldsmith has spoken highly of Rosenman (and composers are only human), and it would be odd for Rosenman to just call Goldsmith a "second rate synth pop artist" and leave it like that.
He was probably talking about Moroder
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